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Jubaea x Butia F1


swolf

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Overcast, rainy Florida lately.  While it’s not as glossy as this photo makes it look, many JxB F1s have great form.  Once these start blooming I’ll need help if not a complete handoff for the distribution phase at this land property.  I have a silver/blue JxB that would probably be the best pollen donor for future generations.  

5 gallon bucket in the foreground.  Thick trunk will show better with another couple years of vertical growth.

Steve

 

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Here’s a sibling (photo from last year) that has a somewhat different form.  Leaves are more recurving, so I suppose it leans toward Butia parent in that regard.  Still nice long leaves though, open stance.  Which form do you prefer?

Steve

P.S. Any with potential business interest/resources can PM me.  The JxBs haven’t bloomed just yet though... 

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6 hours ago, Swolte said:

Beauties! How old are these, approximately?

Thanks, they’re approx. ten years old.

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22 hours ago, Flow said:

Certainly two of the best JxB F1 I have ever seen!

+1!

Beauties.

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Here’s an updated photo of one specimen.  I was going to use a vertical photo but it doesn’t look right in preview (?)  Ah, better off with nature’s landscape view anyway :-). Also, if anyone has a suggestion on good growers in Central/North Florida that I should reach out to about partnering on this 4.5 acre palm farm, please PM me.

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And here’s a silvery JxB from a few months back — hard to locate these.  I think this one will need a little more growing time before flowering whereas larger green ones have begun flowering.

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Absolutely stunning specimens :greenthumb: Ill definitely buy seeds or seedlings someday :yay:

T J 

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On 6/2/2019 at 9:51 AM, swolf said:

And here’s a silvery JxB from a few months back — hard to locate these.

Yowsa!!   Specimens are spectacular!   Growing in the right zone/environment!    

C from NC

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Bone dry summers, wet winters, 2-3 days ea. winter in low teens.

Siler City, NC

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what kind of fruit do these hybrids produce? I've read that Jubaea fruit are edible, but I don't do know to what degree.

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If Jubaea is edible and odorata is definitely edible :hmm: ill take mine in a pie 

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T J 

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2 hours ago, Brian F. Austin said:

what kind of fruit do these hybrids produce? I've read that Jubaea fruit are edible, but I don't do know to what degree.

Jubaea fruit is tasty - similar to Butia odorata fruit but not as sweet.  They make wine from Jubaea fruit and it would probably make excellent pie or jelly.  :P  I'll bet the hybrid produces a large fruit with a large seed.

Jon Sunder

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On 6/2/2019 at 11:07 AM, OC2Texaspalmlvr said:

Absolutely stunning specimens :greenthumb: Ill definitely buy seeds or seedlings someday :yay:

Are these hybrids fertile, able to produce fertile seed that will sprout without back crossing?

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5 minutes ago, howfam said:

Are these hybrids fertile, able to produce fertile seed that with sprout without back crossing?

Im believe so cause i have heard of hybrids that use JxB to make other hybrids like JxB x Syagrus and such most likey Patrics work 

T J 

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2 hours ago, howfam said:

Are these hybrids fertile, able to produce fertile seed that will sprout without back crossing?

J x B F1's have great inability to self fertilize. 

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6 hours ago, Steve in Florida said:

J x B F1's have great inability to self fertilize. 

Well thats a bummer =/ 

T J 

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3 hours ago, OC2Texaspalmlvr said:

Well thats a bummer =/ 

Steve is correct , JxB and ((JxB)xB) are usually self sterile. Dr. Wilcox however did discover that (((JXB)XB)XB) will usually self seed. 

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9 minutes ago, RJ said:

Steve is correct , JxB and ((JxB)xB) are usually self sterile. Dr. Wilcox however did discover that (((JXB)XB)XB) will usually self seed. 

Whoa !!! Where are all these hybrids at haha 

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They're around. When you get the F3,F4... etc there is not a whole lot of jubaea blood left. 

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4 hours ago, OC2Texaspalmlvr said:

Whoa !!! Where are all these hybrids at haha 

I grow them.  Fastest palm hybrid I've ever grown.  They go from strap leaves to 6-7 feet tall in three years in pots.

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4 minutes ago, Steve in Florida said:

I grow them.  Fastest palm hybrid I've ever grown.  They go from strap leaves to 6-7 feet tall in three years in pots.

You grow them , but do you sell them ? :drool:

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19 minutes ago, OC2Texaspalmlvr said:

You grow them , but do you sell them ? :drool:

Yes, but I only have one or two left.  Are you interested in driving to Suwannee County, FL? :lol:

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Just checked just over 12hr drive haha what sizes are left =) 

T J 

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7 hours ago, OC2Texaspalmlvr said:

Just checked just over 12hr drive haha what sizes are left =) 

They are six feet tall.

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3CF82076-CE15-430F-A00F-EB4EC97ECA50.thumb.jpeg.f30e8fe73f13b4b7fdb2c9a21d7d367e.jpegHere’s an example of a younger one.  Overdue to share with TexasColdHardyPalms from prior PM.  While these could be dug and sold one by one, I’m trying to locate a company in central/eastern Florida to exclusively partner (or purchase) on the whole collection.  Anyone have ideas on companies and a contact person?  I could list in the Palmtalk for sale but it’s such a geographically diverse audience.

This juvenile looks like it will have straighter leaves, more like its Jubaea mother.  Please pardon the weeds.

Steve

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On 7/16/2019 at 10:18 AM, OC2Texaspalmlvr said:

 Beautiful palm how old is it ? 

Hard to say, it was purchased years after the original group.  Maybe six years old?  That’s a guess.  Growth rates vary quite a bit, even between exact siblings.

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On 7/18/2019 at 11:43 AM, swolf said:

Hard to say, it was purchased years after the original group.  Maybe six years old?  That’s a guess.  Growth rates vary quite a bit, even between exact siblings.

Well either way definitely seems like faster growth rate then a normal Jubaea =) 

T J 

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Just wanted to share a 2023 photo.  This particular JxB has smaller proportions than most siblings but it does have attractive form and glaucous leaves.  Guess we all have our strengths and weaknesses 😏.  Besides, ‘beauty is in the eye of the beholder.’

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42 minutes ago, swolf said:

Just wanted to share a 2023 photo.  This particular JxB has smaller proportions than most siblings but it does have attractive form and glaucous leaves.  Guess we all have our strengths and weaknesses 😏.  Besides, ‘beauty is in the eye of the beholder.’

 

Wondering when you were going to show up. Great looking palms as always. Stunning 👍

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On 7/18/2019 at 6:43 PM, swolf said:

Hard to say, it was purchased years after the original group.  Maybe six years old?  That’s a guess.  Growth rates vary quite a bit, even between exact siblings.

I find it good, the palm is beautiful 🙂

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15 hours ago, SailorBold said:

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Palm is absolutely stunning. I would pay good money for it. 

T J 

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18 hours ago, SailorBold said:

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Did you realize that planter would become too small when you planted it? Holy ****!

Sorry not sorry

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16 hours ago, jwitt said:

Did you realize that planter would become too small when you planted it? Holy ****!

Sorry not sorry

Lol.. no! I dont know what i was thinking..Its nowhere near as big as some others I've even seen here on palm talk.. but its alot bigger than it looks even being a juvenile.  It's still widening every year... the spread is approaching 14ft..!

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20 hours ago, OC2Texaspalmlvr said:

Palm is absolutely stunning. I would pay good money for it. 

T J 

Ty..  these hybrids are fun! It's definitely in my top 3 of all time favorites..

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6 hours ago, SailorBold said:

Ty..  these hybrids are fun! It's definitely in my top 3 of all time favorites..

I totally understand that statement I'm hoping my JxB once in the ground will flourish into something half as nice as yours !!! 

T J 

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Good lordy those are some absolutely beautiful palms! I was gifted one (BxJ or JxB, idk, is there much of a difference?) by Frank and Elaine when i bought a Mule and Super Mule from them last summer. Regardless of which one it is, it had a rootball that was the size of a seedling liner pot and now its in a 1.5+ gallon pot. The seedling has gone almost fully pinnate at this point. Its a wee bit small but its a good grower. Cant wait to get these hybrids in the ground!

Palms - 4 S. romanzoffiana, 1 W. bifurcata, 4 W. robusta, 1 R. rivularis, 1 B. odorata, 1 B. nobilis, 4 S. palmetto, 1 A. merillii, 2 P. canariensis, 1 BxJ, 1 BxJxBxS, 1 BxS, 3 P. roebelenii, 1 H. lagenicaulis, 1 H. verschaffeltii, 9 T. fortunei, 1 C. humilis, 2 C. macrocarpa, 1 L. chinensis, 1 R. excelsa, 1 S. bermudana, 1 L. nitida

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