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Creation of my Hawaiian Garden - Horizon View Hilo


Hilo Jason

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Stop wasting time... rip out all the grass :)

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Len

Vista, CA (Zone 10a)

Shadowridge Area

"Show me your garden and I shall tell you what you are."

-- Alfred Austin

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Listen to Len.....the grass needs to go!

Think of all the rare palms you can plant in it’s place.

The garden is looking great Jason.

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Can't wait to come to the big island again so I can visit ur garden, sad I missed it last time!

Looking for:  crytostachys hybrids, Pseudophoenix sargentii Leucothrinax morrisii, livingstona canarensis

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Wow, amazing! I enjoyed the pics and thought process for you garden creation from post 1!

Do you live in the Kaumana area? You have almost the same view as me in your pics of the ocean, you seem to be just a little lower elevation than I am. As I mentioned to Tim, I grew up in this area and has been my "stomping grounds" since a youngster so there's some things that jump out at me. Maybe I can hire you guys in the future to help me design my garden/forest! Great job!

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Make the grass your paths through the palms and dispense with the rest. :) Enough width for a few passes with the lawnmower, and fill in the rest with mulch and rock, ornamentals and plan your future understory. Looking so good!

Kim Cyr

Between the beach and the bays, Point Loma, San Diego, California USA
and on a 300 year-old lava flow, Pahoa, Hawaii, 1/4 mile from the 2018 flow
All characters  in this work are fictitious. Any resemblance to real persons, living or dead, is purely coincidental.

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Jason,

 

looking at your updates is getting more and more time consuming...:D

Fantastic!! Especially those before and after photos - what a change in such a short time. It must be a palm growers paradise...

Please keep the updates coming -

best regards

Lars

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On 2/14/2019 at 2:41 PM, Palm Tree Jim said:

Listen to Len.....the grass needs to go!

Think of all the rare palms you can plant in it’s place.

The garden is looking great Jason.

I'm getting there!  Unloaded another truckload of mulch today and smothered a lot of grass with it!  

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On 2/15/2019 at 5:46 AM, Bill Austin said:

Jason you have done an amazing job in such short time ,it's a joy to see some one so enthusiastic about there garden.

Thanks Bill!  That means a lot coming from you 

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On 2/15/2019 at 10:33 AM, Big Eye said:

Wow, amazing! I enjoyed the pics and thought process for you garden creation from post 1!

Do you live in the Kaumana area? You have almost the same view as me in your pics of the ocean, you seem to be just a little lower elevation than I am. As I mentioned to Tim, I grew up in this area and has been my "stomping grounds" since a youngster so there's some things that jump out at me. Maybe I can hire you guys in the future to help me design my garden/forest! Great job!

Yep, I live off of Kaumana.  Feel free to stop by sometime.  Send me a PM and we can work it out. 

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On 2/15/2019 at 10:39 AM, Kim said:

Make the grass your paths through the palms and dispense with the rest. :) Enough width for a few passes with the lawnmower, and fill in the rest with mulch and rock, ornamentals and plan your future understory. Looking so good!

Hey Kim,

That's the plan for a lot of the front yard.  to use the grass as pathways instead of just big open spaces like it started as.  One truckload of mulch at a time! 

 

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On 2/15/2019 at 7:32 PM, palmfriend said:

Jason,

 

looking at your updates is getting more and more time consuming...:D

Fantastic!! Especially those before and after photos - what a change in such a short time. It must be a palm growers paradise...

Please keep the updates coming -

best regards

Lars

Thanks Lars!  More updates to come soon.  Always something happening out in the garden. 

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Woah.  You're the master!!!!!

Matt Bradford

"Manambe Lavaka"

Spring Valley, CA (8.5 miles inland from San Diego Bay)

10B on the hill (635 ft. elevation)

9B in the canyon (520 ft. elevation)

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  • 3 weeks later...

Planted a Joey palm the other day. Working on some companion plants and creating new planters. More updates soon. 

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6 hours ago, Hilo Jason said:

Planted a Joey palm the other day. Working on some companion plants and creating new planters. More updates soon. 

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I hope someday to be able to say the same thing!

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That's it! I'm moving! :yay::wub2:  Just have to convince my hubby first.....:hmm:

Naples (inland), FL - technically 10a but more like 9b in the winter :hmm:

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What kind of career opportunities are in Hilo? My hubby is in management in the Pest Control field and I'm in the Legal Administration field (but would be fine with switching it up, especially to work with plants and/or animals).

Naples (inland), FL - technically 10a but more like 9b in the winter :hmm:

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9 hours ago, Missi said:

What kind of career opportunities are in Hilo? My hubby is in management in the Pest Control field and I'm in the Legal Administration field (but would be fine with switching it up, especially to work with plants and/or animals).

To put things in perspective, Hilo is on an island in the middle of the Pacific Ocean with a population of roughly 250,000 (or less). Hawaii County is the entire island. Visit the City Data website to get a handle on it. People who work remotely fare pretty well. People who own their own businesses and are really good at what they do fare pretty well. It is much more fun to vacation or retire on the Big Island than it is to look for work on the Big Island. But in relative terms.... palms are cheap!!

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Kim Cyr

Between the beach and the bays, Point Loma, San Diego, California USA
and on a 300 year-old lava flow, Pahoa, Hawaii, 1/4 mile from the 2018 flow
All characters  in this work are fictitious. Any resemblance to real persons, living or dead, is purely coincidental.

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Growth rates are looking impressive, indeed.  Here in Florida, a mild, moist winter kept the palms happy and they've been growing and shedding leaves as if it's summer.

 

Fla. climate center: 100-119 days>85 F
USDA 1990 hardiness zone 9B
Current USDA hardiness zone 10a
4 km inland from Indian River; 27º N (equivalent to Brisbane)

Central Orlando's urban heat island may be warmer than us

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On 2/15/2019 at 7:46 AM, Bill Austin said:

Jason you have done an amazing job in such short time ,it's a joy to see some one so enthusiastic about there garden.

Not surprising.  His Fallbrook garden was amazing too.

Paradise Hills, 4 miles inland, south facing slope in the back, north facing yard in the front

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Am I jealous? Obviously! But happy you are getting to do what many of us just dream about doing.

I struggle making garden decisions in my garden and it’s smaller with far less options of “rare” palms then you now have.  I would be agonizing over decisions. But that’s not a bad problem to have I suppose.

Great job. Look forward for more updates.

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Hey Jason,  Your palm paradise is really coming together!  I will be on Maui and then briefly visiting the big island around the 10th of April.  I would love to check out your place if you have some time aroun then.  Mark

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On 3/18/2019 at 10:58 AM, Mark M @ S. Oceanside palms said:

Hey Jason,  Your palm paradise is really coming together!  I will be on Maui and then briefly visiting the big island around the 10th of April.  I would love to check out your place if you have some time aroun then.  Mark

Hey Mark, it would be great to see you.  Please stop by when you are here.  PM me on here for the address, or call me.  I still have the same number I had when I lived in Fallbrook.  Hope it works out.  

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On 3/15/2019 at 3:37 PM, Kim said:

To put things in perspective, Hilo is on an island in the middle of the Pacific Ocean with a population of roughly 250,000 (or less). Hawaii County is the entire island. Visit the City Data website to get a handle on it. People who work remotely fare pretty well. People who own their own businesses and are really good at what they do fare pretty well. It is much more fun to vacation or retire on the Big Island than it is to look for work on the Big Island. But in relative terms.... palms are cheap!!

Kim summed this up very well.  My wife and I own our own business and our work is computer based so we can live anywhere in the world as long as we have internet.  So the Big Island was a great choice for us and we haven't regretted the decision once.  I have seen plenty of shortages here though now that I've been here awhile and it's made me see opportunities.   Not any that I have the training for, but if anyone is a vet or a dentist, there's a huge need!  It takes months to get an appointment for either, and that's only if they are accepting new patients.  Or if you want to learn how to spray for fire ants, there's always a need for that!  

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On 3/15/2019 at 9:37 PM, Kim said:

To put things in perspective, Hilo is on an island in the middle of the Pacific Ocean with a population of roughly 250,000 (or less). Hawaii County is the entire island. Visit the City Data website to get a handle on it. People who work remotely fare pretty well. People who own their own businesses and are really good at what they do fare pretty well. It is much more fun to vacation or retire on the Big Island than it is to look for work on the Big Island. But in relative terms.... palms are cheap!!

They still need lawyers and pest control, no? :P

Naples (inland), FL - technically 10a but more like 9b in the winter :hmm:

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7 hours ago, Missi said:

They still need lawyers and pest control, no? :P

Lots of pests here, so plenty of need to control them!  

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I’m currently at LAX airport for a 9 hour layover on a last minute trip to Uganda so thought I would post some updates. I’m on my phone so please forgive any typos. 

The next grass smothering / planter project was a big one and ended up taking about 10 truckloads of mulch. 

One load at a time:

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another angle:

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And then finished!  All mulch hauled in and rocks that I gathered from around the yard put in place for the border. 

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I will now work on filling in more companion plants (and probably more palms!)

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When we bought this house there were some palms already here. Including 29 very tall Archontophoenix Alexandrae. We decided to have 4 of these cut down as they were close to our house and carport and we were going crazy due to the sound of marble-sized seeds dropping continuously on our metal roof from 40+ feet in the air.

This photo shows 3 over our carport:

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2 down, 1 to go:

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and here’s the tree guy up there doing his thing. The palm on the left side of the house was also cut down. 

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A couple of the stumps that have since had orchids and bromeliads places on top of. 

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more mulch to spread around:

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fresh coat of mulch in some of the planters:

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Now that I’m done with mulch loads (for now) it was time to go shopping again. First stop was Bob Davis’ palm nursery up the Hamakua coast, 9 miles north of Hilo. 

From left to right: Dypsis Saintelucei, Orania Ravaka (might be Trispatha) and Dypsis Lastelliana. 

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Time to dig some holes. First up was Dypsis Saintelucei:

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in the ground joining several other Dypsis:

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While I was in that part of the yard I found a place for this 1 gallon Dypsis Psammophilla which was a recent purchase from Floribunda. 

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planted:

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Up next was the 15 gallon Dypsis Lastelliana:

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sorry for the bad lighting in some of these.  The palm on the right in that last picture is a Crytostachys Renda that is orange and not red. 

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And last planting of the day was a Dypsis Decipiens hybrid. Seed from these came from a garden here on the big island and I’m very curious what it crossed with. Maybe it crossed with something smaller like Albofarinosa? 

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and here’s a pic that shows the decipiens hybrid and the Orania.  Dypsis Robusta in the middle behind them.

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That gets this thread caught up again with new plantings. Many more to come when I get back home in 10 days. 

And here are some random shots around the garden. Thanks for looking!

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