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5 hours ago, Tyrone said:

Any pics of Pritchardia lowreyana out there?

There's pictures floating around here of one at Foster's Botanical Garden. Very old tree . I think Outdoor Circle has it named as an "Exceptional Tree" as well.

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So, finally got some updated photos together of the garden Pritchardia. Some good news, the palms that I thought might be P. pacifica have now flowered and fruited and they turned out to

be P. beccariana. Here are some photos of P. beccariana.

Tim 

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The fruit turns black when ripe and I've been harvesting the seedlings that have sprouted beneath.

I've been taking the seedlings and repopulating the open space behind the property. I'm sure P. beccariana grew naturally here many years ago before clearing and development.

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A few photos of P. lanigera, still small, but starting to pick up speed. 

Tim

 

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OK, now my absolute favorite Pritchardia, P. martii. Always look stunning, so clean and perfect. They've already started to flower and fruit. 

Tim

 

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The last is P. glabrata. Nice habit and really starting to spread. Flowering and fruiting as well.

Tim

 

 

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2 hours ago, realarch said:

A few photos of P. lanigera, still small, but starting to pick up speed. 

Tim

 

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Awesome! Now I at least have something to compare mine too. The leaves look exactly like yours. The splits are small to non-existent on mine. Thought it looked a little weird compared to the rest. However, it is in a small 5 gal so maybe that's why.

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2 hours ago, realarch said:

OK, now my absolute favorite Pritchardia, P. martii. Always look stunning, so clean and perfect. They've already started to flower and fruit. 

Tim

 

 

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WOW! That's a looker! Did you grow this one from seed from Oahu, @realarch

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 Beauties as always Tim.. Here are a couple of mine today; adolescent beccariana growing like a weed; they're one of the dependable ones.

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Schataurii developing a nice form. The leaves are starting to flatten out on this one. This has been a pretty slow palm to get going, but it's pretty.

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Finally, the uncertainty of purchasing Pritchardia from nurseries. Too many potential mixups. This may or may not be forbesiana. It grows very nicely, but is too close in appearance to hillebrandii (which is about 15 feet away) to be 100% confident in its actual ID. Nonetheless a nice palm.

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Bret, your Pritchardia look nice and healthy. Being slow growing has it’s advantages. Being able to enjoy a specimen at eye level rather than straining ones neck looking up, can be a good thing. Of course, having a two story house enables me to look down on most of the canopy palms in the garden. Beyond cool. 

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On 8/9/2019 at 7:44 AM, Zeeth said:

Update on this palm. It's doing quite well! 

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This thing seems like it's really picking up speed!

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18 hours ago, Zeeth said:

This thing seems like it's really picking up speed!

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Very nice!  I've noticed that beccariana is one of the faster growers compared to the others.  Dig those big round fronds!

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P.minor is one of my favorites this one has a lot of gold on the backside of the fronds. I have had a few people question if it is pure minor. What are your thoughts? 

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PlThanks for all the great pictures everyone. Here's  a few more. First up p.martii still young with no color on underside of fronds. Second pic pritchardia napaliensis 3rd and 4th pic is a pritchardia I purchased as sp.blue moon dwarf it has been very slow any thoughts on this one would be great 5th pic is young p.hardyii from local seed 6th and 7thpic is one to be determined but was purchased as p.flynii it has also been mentioned here before that it could be p.perlmanii .

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21 hours ago, bubba said:

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That's a full "head of hair"!  Is this a trait of thurstonii?  I don't recall seeing pictures of the Hawaiian Pritchardia with a full crown like this?  If my memory serves me right, I think the only one I've seen was kahukuensis that was posted by @colin Peters.  

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16 hours ago, akamu said:

15840602460283779093623599254710.thumb.jpg.8686dbe4d622cd0631dab31622b020bb.jpgP.munroii has been my fastest pritchardia I am growing. 

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Great looking specimen!  I need to get my hands on this one as well!  I see a bungee tied to two leaves.  What's the reason behind that?  Interesting...

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16 hours ago, akamu said:

P.minor is one of my favorites this one has a lot of gold on the backside of the fronds. I have had a few people question if it is pure minor. What are your thoughts? 

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That first picture is crazy.  Looks like it's holding two different types of leaves?  I will stay away from trying to guess what it is, but I will say it's beautiful whatever it is!

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16 hours ago, akamu said:

PlThanks for all the great pictures everyone. Here's  a few more. First up p.martii still young with no color on underside of fronds. Second pic pritchardia napaliensis 3rd and 4th pic is a pritchardia I purchased as sp.blue moon dwarf it has been very slow any thoughts on this one would be great 5th pic is young p.hardyii from local seed 6th and 7thpic is one to be determined but was purchased as p.flynii it has also been mentioned here before that it could be p.perlmanii .

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Mahalo for posting your loulu, @akamu!  I can look at them all day!  Would you say hardyi is one of your slower growers?  Mine don't seem to be moving!

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These palms reside at the Ann Norton Sculpture Garden in WPB, Florida. They are admittedly poor pictures but my ID is based upon the tags on the palms, not my knowledge! I will go back and attempt a better shot!

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 Thanks Bubba I am also enjoying all the great pictures of the beautiful loulou posted here.  Hardyii  has been about two fronds per year i think it will pick up speed as it matures The mother palm seems to be a very robust grower. Hopefully the local palmtalker who has the tree will post a picture,  it's a real beauty . The bungee cord on the munroi is there to make the path easier until the frond  is overhead . 

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Adam, great pictures! How confident are you of the munroi ID? I know JM had a ton, but I'm thinking mines not what it was labeled as. Grows like crazy though. Could have been just a label mixup. I've never seen them sold anywhere else..

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Here are some pics I have taken of Pritchardias labeled or considered to be munroi. The first two are from the McBryde Garden on Kauai, the third is from a private garden in Hawaii.

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The "collapsed-leaf" effect of older leaves is shared with P. schattaueri.

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11 hours ago, quaman58 said:

Adam, great pictures! How confident are you of the munroi ID? I know JM had a ton, but I'm thinking mines not what it was labeled as. Grows like crazy though. Could have been just a label mixup. I've never seen them sold anywhere else..

Here is my Munroi from Jungle music, It is flowing and has unripe seed on it. This thing is a rocket and HUGE. Hard to picture but here it is.

 

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Big Eye,

I did further research on your question and believe that I have the answer. Specifically, you are invoking Hawaiian Pritchardia’s that are indigenous to Hawaii.

Pritchardia pacifica and thurstonii are indigenous to Fiji and Tonga. I assume that they share different characteristics from the Pritchardia indigenous to Hawaii. Best, bubba 

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Looks great Nick.  I've seen habitat pictures and they definitely have a collapsed leaf look, which mine definitely does not have. Yours also has that heavy "scurf"  or whatever it's called on the  undersides of leaves running up from the petiole. Which fits if it's the real deal.

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Great looking Palm Nick agree on the growth rate very fast It looks like we all got ours from jungle music I got one of his first batch when they had a sale at the San Diego Botanical Garden looks exactly like Nick's leaf and petiole detail. Nick do you have any other photos of the base to show the fuzz

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On 9/18/2017 at 2:24 PM, colin Peters said:

Here are a couple of shots of what I'm using my best guess to be P. marti, at Queens Hospital, Oahu. a very old palm. Ive read that many species were brought in back in the 

day for landscaping in the downtown areas.

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I think this is P. arecina. 

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On 3/11/2020 at 8:57 PM, Zeeth said:

This thing seems like it's really picking up speed!

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On 3/14/2020 at 7:55 PM, quaman58 said:

Adam, great pictures! How confident are you of the munroi ID? I know JM had a ton, but I'm thinking mines not what it was labeled as. Grows like crazy though. Could have been just a label mixup. I've never seen them sold anywhere else..

I bought a 5g munro from Jungle Music many years ago. I planted it and it was a rocket ship that is now seeding. I sent pics to Hodel because I wasn't convinced it was munroi and his very educated guess was maideniana.

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