SEVA Posted June 3, 2017 Report Share Posted June 3, 2017 January 10 7 USDA Hardiness Zone 7b/8a AHS Heat Zone 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Palm crazy Posted June 3, 2017 Report Share Posted June 3, 2017 (edited) WOW that is great! How cold did it get there? And what did you use for insulation? Edited June 3, 2017 by Palm crazy 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEVA Posted June 3, 2017 Author Report Share Posted June 3, 2017 1 hour ago, Palm crazy said: WOW that is great! How cold did it get there? And what did you use for insulation? The minimum temperature was -2F, which is abnormally low. I used Christmas lights with a thermocube. I wrapped burlap around the palm, then lights. I wrapped another layer of burlap around the lights, then a layer of blankets. 3 USDA Hardiness Zone 7b/8a AHS Heat Zone 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEVA Posted June 3, 2017 Author Report Share Posted June 3, 2017 Also, I'm trying to grow a majesty palm. January 10 4 USDA Hardiness Zone 7b/8a AHS Heat Zone 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Palm crazy Posted June 3, 2017 Report Share Posted June 3, 2017 That is amazing! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fusca Posted June 4, 2017 Report Share Posted June 4, 2017 That is dedication - I would not want to go through such trouble myself! How long did you leave those palms wrapped up like that? That's great that they survived! I'm from Knoxville, TN but never considered growing palms outside until I moved to East Texas (zone 8a). 4 Jon Sunder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEVA Posted June 5, 2017 Author Report Share Posted June 5, 2017 4 hours ago, Fusca said: That is dedication - I would not want to go through such trouble myself! How long did you leave those palms wrapped up like that? That's great that they survived! I'm from Knoxville, TN but never considered growing palms outside until I moved to East Texas (zone 8a). The queen was wrapped for about 3.5 months, and the majesty was wrapped for about 4.5 months. They were unwrapped in February for a few days. 2 USDA Hardiness Zone 7b/8a AHS Heat Zone 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fusca Posted June 5, 2017 Report Share Posted June 5, 2017 17 hours ago, SEVA said: The queen was wrapped for about 3.5 months, and the majesty was wrapped for about 4.5 months. They were unwrapped in February for a few days. That's interesting to know. I've not experienced more than 15-18 consecutive hours of temps below freezing since coming to Texas so I haven't had to wrap anything like you did, but I did wrap Christmas lights around a queen palm I had in north Houston its first winter. The majesty likes lots of water so you must be watering it well - it looks good! 1 Jon Sunder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEVA Posted June 6, 2017 Author Report Share Posted June 6, 2017 6 hours ago, Fusca said: That's interesting to know. I've not experienced more than 15-18 consecutive hours of temps below freezing since coming to Texas so I haven't had to wrap anything like you did, but I did wrap Christmas lights around a queen palm I had in north Houston its first winter. The majesty likes lots of water so you must be watering it well - it looks good! In January we had a winter storm and the temperature remained below freezing for about 3 days. It was an abnormally cold weather event. Usually, the temperatures rise above freezing during the day. I unwrapped them in February, because we had over a week of temperatures that remained above freezing. I've only had to water it a few times; we've been having a pluvious spring. Last fall we received a lot of rain, and after hurricane Matthew it was under about 4 ft of water. 1 USDA Hardiness Zone 7b/8a AHS Heat Zone 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zifool Posted June 6, 2017 Report Share Posted June 6, 2017 Wow ! Great ! ur wrap method interesting me a lot ! Can u describe it please 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sashaeffer Posted June 6, 2017 Report Share Posted June 6, 2017 Coconut Mike in Montreal had a Queen he over wintered until it got to tall (I think 16/18 ft) before he quit. Last I saw of it, he was trying to give it away if you came and dug it out and it was right after a snow event there and it did look cool that Queen surrounded by that light covering of snow. I don't know how he protected it though. All his other palms in the ground are boxed in with 1 inch insulation. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEVA Posted June 9, 2017 Author Report Share Posted June 9, 2017 On 6/6/2017, 3:32:02, Zifool said: Wow ! Great ! ur wrap method interesting me a lot ! Can u describe it please Thank you. Once we began experiencing temperatures below 25F, I wrapped the queen with a layer of burlap. Then, I wrapped Christmas lights around the burlap. The lights were plugged into a thermocube. I wrapped another layer of burlap after the lights. Once we began experiencing temperatures below 20F, I wrapped a layer of blankets around the queen. I added a few inches of mulch around the base of the palm, and I placed unopened bags of mulch on top of the layer of mulch. 2 USDA Hardiness Zone 7b/8a AHS Heat Zone 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PalmTreeDude Posted June 13, 2017 Report Share Posted June 13, 2017 On 6/3/2017, 4:52:56, SEVA said: The minimum temperature was -2F, which is abnormally low. I used Christmas lights with a thermocube. I wrapped burlap around the palm, then lights. I wrapped another layer of burlap around the lights, then a layer of blankets. - 2?! Dang, the lowest we seen in the Richmond area where we are was 3 degrees F in the time we lived here (11 years) 1 PalmTreeDude Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zifool Posted June 14, 2017 Report Share Posted June 14, 2017 On 09/06/2017 à, SEVA said: Thank you. Once we began experiencing temperatures below 25F, I wrapped the queen with a layer of burlap. Then, I wrapped Christmas lights around the burlap. The lights were plugged into a thermocube. I wrapped another layer of burlap after the lights. Once we began experiencing temperatures below 20F, I wrapped a layer of blankets around the queen. I added a few inches of mulch around the base of the palm, and I placed unopened bags of mulch on top of the layer of mulch. thank 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mohsen Posted June 16, 2017 Report Share Posted June 16, 2017 On 04/06/2017, 3:01:50, SEVA said: June 3 Interesting, how many winters you have been doing this for this queen ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEVA Posted June 29, 2017 Author Report Share Posted June 29, 2017 On 6/13/2017, 4:16:57, PalmTreeDude said: - 2?! Dang, the lowest we seen in the Richmond area where we are was 3 degrees F in the time we lived here (11 years) That was according to a local temperature reading. I live near a swamp, so it might have been warmer. 1 USDA Hardiness Zone 7b/8a AHS Heat Zone 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEVA Posted June 29, 2017 Author Report Share Posted June 29, 2017 On 6/16/2017, 12:05:15, Mohsen said: Interesting, how many winters you have been doing this for this queen ? That was the first winter. 2 USDA Hardiness Zone 7b/8a AHS Heat Zone 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PalmTreeDude Posted July 2, 2017 Report Share Posted July 2, 2017 On 6/29/2017, 10:53:52, SEVA said: That was according to a local temperature reading. I live near a swamp, so it might have been warmer. That should would help, is it a big swamp? 1 PalmTreeDude Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mohsen Posted July 3, 2017 Report Share Posted July 3, 2017 On 6/30/2017, 12:56:04, SEVA said: That was the first winter. So I assume you have planted this recently? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEVA Posted July 18, 2017 Author Report Share Posted July 18, 2017 On 7/2/2017, 5:50:44, PalmTreeDude said: That should would help, is it a big swamp? I would consider it to be a small swamp. Here is a picture from the snow event in January 2017. 2 USDA Hardiness Zone 7b/8a AHS Heat Zone 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEVA Posted July 18, 2017 Author Report Share Posted July 18, 2017 On 7/3/2017, 2:44:37, Mohsen said: So I assume you have planted this recently? It was planted in March 2016. 2 USDA Hardiness Zone 7b/8a AHS Heat Zone 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PalmTreeDude Posted July 31, 2017 Report Share Posted July 31, 2017 On 7/18/2017, 3:42:44, SEVA said: I would consider it to be a small swamp. Here is a picture from the snow event in January 2017. That's a nice little cypress swamp. Any Spanish Moss to be seen? 2 PalmTreeDude Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEVA Posted July 31, 2017 Author Report Share Posted July 31, 2017 18 hours ago, PalmTreeDude said: That's a nice little cypress swamp. Any Spanish Moss to be seen? Yes, but not much. Most of it is growing in a few trees in the yard. 1 USDA Hardiness Zone 7b/8a AHS Heat Zone 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEVA Posted September 10, 2017 Author Report Share Posted September 10, 2017 September 4 1 10 USDA Hardiness Zone 7b/8a AHS Heat Zone 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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DCA_Palm_Fan Posted September 19, 2017 Report Share Posted September 19, 2017 Those both put on some nice growth! Nice job on overwintering them!! I wish I liked queens more. They just usually don't look great. Even here in Florida many of them just look tired. When they are very healthy though they are gorgeous stately palms. Yours looks very healthy for being still young and having survived a brutal winter. Are you going to protect it again? Would love to see a photo of your spanish moss too. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEVA Posted September 21, 2017 Author Report Share Posted September 21, 2017 On 9/18/2017, 9:59:11, DCA_Palm_Fan said: Those both put on some nice growth! Nice job on overwintering them!! I wish I liked queens more. They just usually don't look great. Even here in Florida many of them just look tired. When they are very healthy though they are gorgeous stately palms. Yours looks very healthy for being still young and having survived a brutal winter. Are you going to protect it again? Would love to see a photo of your spanish moss too. I do plan to protect them both this winter. I will have to see what pictures I have of the Spanish moss, since I am in college now. 2 USDA Hardiness Zone 7b/8a AHS Heat Zone 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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DCA_Palm_Fan Posted September 21, 2017 Report Share Posted September 21, 2017 Looking good! Can't wait to see how your queen comes through this winter. Hopfully it wont be too harsh of one up there. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VA Jeff Posted October 11, 2017 Report Share Posted October 11, 2017 (edited) One of my houses is near Yorktown. I planted Spanish moss there several times, only to have birds steal it. It may still be there in a remote corner. I have found it hidden before, after such displacement, but even the humidity near the Poquoson River isn't enough. I would recommend easier to protect palm species than ravenea rivularis. King palm, even though not easy to keep alive in winter, is hardier than majesty palms, doesn't mind darkness as much, and is also prettier and crownshafted. Phoenix dactiylifera or canariensis are much easier that that too. I've gotten CIDPs through a few winters with modest protection, but they are all dead now. I kept unprotected butias for many years, but they died slowly after the temps hit 1 or 2 F a few years ago. The tallest one was about 13 feet tall, but sadly never flowered. I kept it in front of a dryer vent and a brick wall facing SW. The keys to winter protection are: keep moisture out of the bud don't have plastic touching leaves allow some light to permeate the cover moderate the temperature avoid fungus and most of all, keep it from overheating on warmer days when it is wrapped. This is a key that gets overlooked. Supplemental heat may be added, but isn't necessary when you are within a zone of the plants zone limit. Edited October 11, 2017 by VA Jeff 1 God bless America... and everywhere else too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEVA Posted October 14, 2017 Author Report Share Posted October 14, 2017 On 10/11/2017, 12:37:41, VA Jeff said: One of my houses is near Yorktown. I planted Spanish moss there several times, only to have birds steal it. It may still be there in a remote corner. I have found it hidden before, after such displacement, but even the humidity near the Poquoson River isn't enough. I would recommend easier to protect palm species than ravenea rivularis. King palm, even though not easy to keep alive in winter, is hardier than majesty palms, doesn't mind darkness as much, and is also prettier and crownshafted. Phoenix dactiylifera or canariensis are much easier that that too. I've gotten CIDPs through a few winters with modest protection, but they are all dead now. I kept unprotected butias for many years, but they died slowly after the temps hit 1 or 2 F a few years ago. The tallest one was about 13 feet tall, but sadly never flowered. I kept it in front of a dryer vent and a brick wall facing SW. The keys to winter protection are: keep moisture out of the bud don't have plastic touching leaves allow some light to permeate the cover moderate the temperature avoid fungus and most of all, keep it from overheating on warmer days when it is wrapped. This is a key that gets overlooked. Supplemental heat may be added, but isn't necessary when you are within a zone of the plants zone limit. In addition to the Syagrus romanzoffiana and Ravenea rivularis, I am growing: Butia odorata (one flowered for the first time in summer 2016) Rhapidophyllum hystrix Sabal 'Birmingham' Sabal minor Sabal palmetto Trachycarpus fortunei 2 USDA Hardiness Zone 7b/8a AHS Heat Zone 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh-O Posted October 14, 2017 Report Share Posted October 14, 2017 wow!!! great job and i dig the determination 1 Carlsbad, California Zone 10 B on the hill (402 ft. elevation) Sunset zone 24 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PalmTreeDude Posted November 13, 2017 Report Share Posted November 13, 2017 @SEVA Great to see the palms come back! They look really good. Did you put the Spanish Moss in the trees or did it just end up there? 1 PalmTreeDude Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mdsonofthesouth Posted November 13, 2017 Report Share Posted November 13, 2017 26 minutes ago, PalmTreeDude said: @SEVA Great to see the palms come back! They look really good. Did you put the Spanish Moss in the trees or did it just end up there? Pretty sure it was put there. While you might be lucky enough to find a sickly small strand of moss in the tidewater/delmarva peninsula of MD and VA its rare and most case near death. We have the humidity, but the cold wet winters the DMV has just about kill anything borderline. I have read a few articles of folks finding moss on the eastern shores of MD and VA that were hidden, but very small and hard to find. Also from what I have read as well that moss used to be native to the DMV before the little ice age (as well as possibly some sable minor and Rhapidophyllum hystrix strands). Since we are coming out of the tail end of the cooling period it might make a come back, especially with some help, in our area. 1 LOWS 16/17 12F, 17/18 3F, 18/19 7F, 19/20 20F Palms growing in my garden: Trachycarpus Fortunei, Chamaerops Humilis, Chamaerops Humilis var. Cerifera, Rhapidophyllum Hystrix, Sabal Palmetto Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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