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Got 10 washingtonia robusta as a "free gift".  After 2 weeks, every single one germinated.  I ordered some phoenix theophrasti seeds from another vendor.  What arrived looked more like dactylifera, with the elongated seeds ~2cm with pointy edges.  I decided to keep them and get theophrasti seed from another source.  So far, 5 of them have germinated and are sending up their first leaf.  I picked a few sabal minor seeds from a blue plant at a botanical garden, and one of the seeds has just broke the ground.  Enjoy!

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USDA Zone 1990: 9a  2012: 9b  2023: 10a | Sunset Zone: 26 | Record Low: 20F/-6.67C (Jan. 1985, Dec.1962) | Record Low USDA Zone: 9a

30-Year Avg. Low: 30F | 30-year Min: 24F

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nursery gets crowded pretty fast!

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It's filling up to the brim.  Going to have to get more heat mats at this rate!

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USDA Zone 1990: 9a  2012: 9b  2023: 10a | Sunset Zone: 26 | Record Low: 20F/-6.67C (Jan. 1985, Dec.1962) | Record Low USDA Zone: 9a

30-Year Avg. Low: 30F | 30-year Min: 24F

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My 2 new Jamaican Talls next to my Maypan.  I bought a third and donated it to Leu Gardens in Orlando.

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A picture of the nursery.  Featured are Washingtonia Robusta, Phoenix Dactylifera, Sabal Palmetto, Sabal Minor, and Dypsis Plumosa.

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30-Year Avg. Low: 30F | 30-year Min: 24F

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1 hour ago, kinzyjr said:

My 2 new Jamaican Talls next to my Maypan. 

How much more cold tolerant are Jamaican Talls?

Westchase | 9b 10a  ◆  Nokomis | 10a  ◆  St. Petersburg | 10a 10b 

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54 minutes ago, RedRabbit said:

How much more cold tolerant are Jamaican Talls?

Now there's the rub. I have only one Atlantic/Jamaican tall in my 5-Coconut garden. I planted it in the garden on 30th of January from the greenhaus. The Jamaican tall hasn't shown any signs of sunburn nor cold damage compared to the other three pacific talls which look as if the mother of all bombs went off by them once Spring arrived.  One interesting characteristic of my Jamaican/Atlantic tall is the color: Completely green. But I mean Hulk green evenly spread throughout the stem and leaves.

I can see why the Atlantic tall is rumored to be more cold tolerant than the other varieties. If true, I don't have a figure. And come next winter, I will not chance the Jamaican to test out the cold tolerance theory and ditch utilizing a brood lamp on it.

Here are some pics:

 

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Oh yeah. It has the most coolest of husks of all the coconuts in the garden. It has a peculiar shape to it.

The two oldest leafs which are are wriggly and scuffed up are the same way I received the coconut. I other words, I received the coconut with those leaves in that fashion. They were damaged before I got the coco. Not because of my weather.

 

 

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5 year high 42.2C/108F (07/06/2018)--5 year low 4.6C/40.3F (1/19/2023)--Lowest recent/current winter: 4.6C/40.3F (1/19/2023)

 

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EVERYTHING

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LoL Dave!. I must admit, the Jamaican tall is the most robust of all the seedlings I have ever had. The leaves are like a coarse plastic. The wind wont move 'em. If it makes it, it will be a monster.

 

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5 year high 42.2C/108F (07/06/2018)--5 year low 4.6C/40.3F (1/19/2023)--Lowest recent/current winter: 4.6C/40.3F (1/19/2023)

 

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2 hours ago, RedRabbit said:

How much more cold tolerant are Jamaican Talls?

I've heard rumors that they are good down to about 27F, but I can't vouch for this by personal experience.  I've not ever had one and left it uncovered during a freeze.

I can say that they have fronds the whole way from the base of the palm to the top, giving it a much more robust crown than the Malayans. 

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USDA Zone 1990: 9a  2012: 9b  2023: 10a | Sunset Zone: 26 | Record Low: 20F/-6.67C (Jan. 1985, Dec.1962) | Record Low USDA Zone: 9a

30-Year Avg. Low: 30F | 30-year Min: 24F

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Some photos of the new additions to my nursery:

One of the sabal palmetto (left) and one of the sabal minor (right) starting to peek out above the soil.

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All 26 of the phoenix theophrasti that sprouted recently (100% germination).

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A phoenix theophrasti that ended up producing two plants.

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A new addition to the family - phoenix reclinata x (your best guess):

 

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For a look at the parent plant: https://www.google.com/maps/@28.0217398,-81.9523128,3a,34.6y,46.66h,85.2t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1swJtBn97HriV1_mv3NHXiOA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

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Added a bunch of roystonea regia and thrinax radiata to the mix thanks to seeds from @Steve the palmreader.  Sabal maritima and sabal mauritiiformis thanks to @TexasColdHardyPalms.

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USDA Zone 1990: 9a  2012: 9b  2023: 10a | Sunset Zone: 26 | Record Low: 20F/-6.67C (Jan. 1985, Dec.1962) | Record Low USDA Zone: 9a

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@kinzyjr!

YOU 

ARE 

NUTTY!

And praises to you for that!

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10 hours ago, Henoh said:

It seems that this kind of nursery construction is globally available :) Here is mine on cold foggy morning. 

Yep, same exact thing.   The plastic cover is folded up and will only be used for freak freeze events.

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Sabal Miamiensis in the black pots, Washingtonia Filifera from a seed source in the Coachella Valley in the brown pots:

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A ton of Arenga engleri seeds soaking before sowing:

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Set a personal record for least time in the soil for germination.  I would have expected it to be a washingtonia or a phoenix, but this time it was adonidia merrillii.  I collected 8 ripe red fruits in Miami on 12/26/2018.  After making it back to Lakeland on 12/27/2018, I stripped all of the fruit and fiber off of the seeds with needle nosed pliers and gave them a 36 hour soak, changing the water four times.  They were put into baggy with 50/50 garden soil and perlite mix and placed on a heat mat.  I decided to do a check on my germination today and had 7 out of 8 already sprout.  Anyone looking for an easy germination target should consider these, especially if you are in 10a+ and can plant them outdoors.  I labeled some of the visible germination in the picture below:

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On 11/22/2018, 3:20:26, kinzyjr said:

Added a bunch of roystonea regia and thrinax radiata to the mix thanks to seeds from @Steve the palmreader.  Sabal maritima and sabal mauritiiformis thanks to @TexasColdHardyPalms.

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23 minutes ago, DoomsDave said:

Good song by a good artist... how fitting LOL

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2 minutes ago, kinzyjr said:

Good song by a good artist... how fitting LOL

Any other seeds sprout?

I'm into the darkness of seed sprouting. . . . .

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11 minutes ago, DoomsDave said:

Any other seeds sprout?

I'm into the darkness of seed sprouting. . . . .

Had a butia catarinensis sprout as well.  Just potted it up yesterday.

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Getting coolers and heating pads

And thermostats

Down with the Devil I go!

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Getting coolers and heating pads

And thermostats

Down with the Devil I go!

LOL!  What are you germinating?

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LOL!  What are you germinating?

Dypsis black stem

onilahensis droopy

among much else

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Here is some more seed-porn for Dave. Syagrus oleracea.

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Some more new stuff, mostly donated or purchased from PalmTalk members or my local affiliate.

A representative sample of the Sabal minor 'Weiss Lake' liners from @TexasColdHardyPalms

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A few of my Arenga engleri from seeds purchased at the CFPACS Winter Meeting auction.

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A small portion of the ~150 Washingtonia filifera seedlings from a seed source in the Moapa Valley:

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A representative sample of Coccothrinax dusiana from @DoomsDave:

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A representative sample of the Pseudophoenix sargentii from @NatureGirl:

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If all goes well, I'll have a few blue Jubaea chilensis coming up soon as well.

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On 12/31/2018 at 8:58 PM, DoomsDave said:

Dypsis black stem

onilahensis droopy

among much else

Ok Dave, think of me when you start selling those Dypsis black stems. :shaka-2:

I’m not too far away from you. Easy enough to pick up whatever you’re selling? :D

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On 12/31/2018 at 10:40 PM, The Germinator said:

Here is some more seed-porn for Dave. Syagrus oleracea.

Oleracea_germ.jpg

Pant pant pant.

 

What are you doing with the babies?

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11 hours ago, kinzyjr said:

Some more new stuff, mostly donated or purchased from PalmTalk members or my local affiliate.

A representative sample of the Sabal minor 'Weiss Lake' liners from @TexasColdHardyPalms

20190620_233445_Sabal_minor_WeissLake_1600.jpg

A few of my Arenga engleri from seeds purchased at the CFPACS Winter Meeting auction.

20190620_233847_Arenga_engleri_1600.jpg

A small portion of the ~150 Washingtonia filifera seedlings from a seed source in the Moapa Valley:

20190620_234013_Washingtonia_filifera_1600.jpg

A representative sample of Coccothrinax dusiana from @DoomsDave:

20190620_233240_Coccothrinax_dusiana_1600.jpg

A representative sample of the Pseudophoenix sargentii from @NatureGirl:

20190620_233339_Pseudophoenix_sargentii_1600.jpg

If all goes well, I'll have a few blue Jubaea chilensis coming up soon as well.

You are going to town!

All the way to the central city! B)

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@DoomsDave You're one of the folks driving me to town LOL.  Thanks for all of the seeds over the years!

Here are a few that I haven't grown from seed.

Trachycarpus fortunei - likely going in the ground in the fall after the weather changes.

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Livistona decora - They are being planted all over town as the 'new' cold hardy - replacing CIDP and Phoenix dactylifera.  Can't beat 'em, join 'em.

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27 minutes ago, kinzyjr said:

@DoomsDave You're one of the folks driving me to town LOL.  Thanks for all of the seeds over the years!

Here are a few that I haven't grown from seed.

Trachycarpus fortunei - likely going in the ground in the fall after the weather changes.

20190621_092118_Trachycarpus_fortunei_1600.jpg

Livistona decora - They are being planted all over town as the 'new' cold hardy - replacing CIDP and Phoenix dactylifera.  Can't beat 'em, join 'em.

20190621_092228_Livistona_decora_1600.jpg

Nice.  Imo, B.alfredii is the new CIDP.

 

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Just now, GottmitAlex said:

Nice.  Imo, B.alfredii is the new CIDP.

I have one of those in the ground now too.  Got it from @Mike Evans.  Young and small, but it's there.

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You guys think you’re nutty?

You are!!!

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You guys think you’re nutty?

You are!!!

But I really am!

Nutty in a good way.  Here I am trying to clear out my little make-shift nursery and you're trying to corrupt me further... it's working ;)

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Dypsis plumosa babies in deep liners

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Just now, kinzyjr said:

Nutty in a good way.  Here I am trying to clear out my little make-shift nursery and you're trying to corrupt me further... it's working ;)

I corrupt!

So I am!

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They try to contain me with that wire mesh!

AHHH HAA HAAA HAAA HAA

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A special thanks to @Josh-O for this one.  15/20 seeds germinated in 6 months.  A few holdouts left.  This is the first one to germinate now that it has its first leaf completely out.

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USDA Zone 1990: 9a  2012: 9b  2023: 10a | Sunset Zone: 26 | Record Low: 20F/-6.67C (Jan. 1985, Dec.1962) | Record Low USDA Zone: 9a

30-Year Avg. Low: 30F | 30-year Min: 24F

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Those familiar with the Remarkable Palms of Tampa Bay thread by @RedRabbit have seen some of the specimen palms I've posted.  Several mature Archontophoenix alexandrae posted on that thread have recently set ripe fruit.  I decided to use the recently collected seeds to check whether removing the fiber from the seeds would affect germination.  I checked them today while sowing some of @DoomsDave's infamous Brahea hybrids.

I had 25 seeds with all of the fiber removed.  They were placed in a small cup with ~1 inch of damp potting mix between them and the bottom with ~2.5 inches of moist medium above them.  They were placed on a heating mat that kept the temperature ~90-100F.  23/25 germinated (most shown).  Two damped off.

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I had 10 that I sowed in the same manner with fiber still attached.  5/10 have germinated and one rotted.  The seeds on the right germinated (hard to see) and the ones on the left felt firm but had not germinated.

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At least in regard to germination, removing the fiber seems to speed things up slightly.  Survival after germination is the question now.

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Lakeland, FL

USDA Zone 1990: 9a  2012: 9b  2023: 10a | Sunset Zone: 26 | Record Low: 20F/-6.67C (Jan. 1985, Dec.1962) | Record Low USDA Zone: 9a

30-Year Avg. Low: 30F | 30-year Min: 24F

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