Phoenikakias Posted January 12, 2017 Report Share Posted January 12, 2017 8 hours ago, benbaron said: Im assuming you guys arnt bothering to protect your plants?? Why not? Phoenikakias - a quick cover of a blanket or something works wonders and keeps them alive to recover - well worth the effort. Its what we do every winter lol 7 hours ago, dalmatiansoap said: It's hard to explain what it takes to make protection that can take few days of constant winds of 100-150km/h. One part of the answer is the reply of Ante. Besides it depends on kind of palm, that it should be protected. Not all palms are easy like Trachies or Chamaerops. Some hate cool and moist and catch rapidly fungi. Another aspect is the terrain where palms grow; on a slope it's rather difficult to build and fix any protecting structure. Another aspect is that palms, if having survived every previous winter, put up every summer substantial growth thanks to warm air and in few years we are bound to protect large plants; ever tried to throw a blanket upon an overgrown Pritchardia for example? (lol) Below you can see in the background a fully wrapped up smaller Pritchardia, but on its right side the big one was impossible to be wrapped, so I only wrapped and protected the part of stem, which contains the meristem. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rafael Posted January 12, 2017 Report Share Posted January 12, 2017 Here the minimum so far 0C, but with high dew point. My sheltered spot saw only 2C and my woodyetia and dypsis madagascariensis are covered and - I hope - safe Furadouro and Ovar, zone 9b/10a. PORTUGALhttp://www.palmtalk.org/forum/index.php?showtopic=20668http://www.palmtalk.org/forum/index.php?/topic/31527-my-new-garden-ovar-january2012/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phoenikakias Posted January 13, 2017 Report Share Posted January 13, 2017 Rafael, by growing DM outdoors you put out a tongue to nature lol 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rafael Posted January 14, 2017 Report Share Posted January 14, 2017 17 hours ago, Phoenikakias said: Rafael, by growing DM outdoors you put out a tongue to nature lol 2 Furadouro and Ovar, zone 9b/10a. PORTUGALhttp://www.palmtalk.org/forum/index.php?showtopic=20668http://www.palmtalk.org/forum/index.php?/topic/31527-my-new-garden-ovar-january2012/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BS Man about Palms Posted January 14, 2017 Report Share Posted January 14, 2017 On 1/9/2017, 4:08:04, dalmatiansoap said: Wind was a bigger problem, 150km/h with so low temperatures freezes Sea in a beautiful sights https://www.google.hr/search?q=makarska+bura+2017&rlz=1C1GGLS_hrHR321HR321&espv=2&biw=1024&bih=653&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjvuM64grXRAhXCNxQKHSPPAxUQ_AUIBigB click on the video: http://www.index.hr/black/clanak/video-hit-dana-bura-u-makarskoj-u-par-sekundi-pocistila-stolove-i-natjerala-prolaznika-u-bijeg/942531.aspx Umm, that looks like a prank video.. the people are not getting blown... But still sorry to hear how cold it is..! Zone 10a at best after 2007 AND 2013, on SW facing hill, 1 1/2 miles from coast in Oceanside, CA. 30-98 degrees, and 45-80deg. about 95% of the time. "The great workman of nature is time." , "Genius is nothing but a great aptitude for patience." -George-Louis Leclerc de Buffon- I do some experiments and learning in my garden with palms so you don't have to experience the pain! Look at my old threads to find various observations and tips! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dalmatiansoap Posted January 15, 2017 Report Share Posted January 15, 2017 11 hours ago, BS Man about Palms said: Umm, that looks like a prank video.. the people are not getting blown... But still sorry to hear how cold it is..! Lol, does look like prank indeed. Here one can see how these gust looks like thanks to sea https://youtu.be/zu0g3B1NSLI Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gyuseppe Posted January 22, 2017 Author Report Share Posted January 22, 2017 first victims to -5.7 degrees celsius 3 small chamaedorea tepejilote,are death, while larger ones are in a sheltered location, are alive although burning leaves Also died a rhopalostylis sapida oceana,made from seed in 2008 leaves of arenga micrantha burn marks,I did not expect this leaves of arenga tremula and engleri ,are perfect,these species are very ok 1 GIUSEPPE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gyuseppe Posted January 22, 2017 Author Report Share Posted January 22, 2017 my big archontophoenix cunninghamiana all burned, not nice to see! But it seems alive, we hope that not dies phoenix roebelenii leaves burned , but alive hybrid phoenix roebelenii x reclinata ,slightly burned 1 GIUSEPPE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gyuseppe Posted January 25, 2017 Author Report Share Posted January 25, 2017 dead: some small archontophoenix cunninghamiana some small rhopalostylis 3 phoenix pusilla(all) 1 phoenix loureiroii x roebelenii 1 GIUSEPPE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gyuseppe Posted January 25, 2017 Author Report Share Posted January 25, 2017 my one chambeyronia macrocarpa 1 GIUSEPPE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gyuseppe Posted January 25, 2017 Author Report Share Posted January 25, 2017 dead some chamaedorea of these species seifrizii,costaricana ,tepejilote ,woodsoniana ,pochutlensis , many of chamaedorea cataractarum of these species, all live ,no dead Chamaedorea hooperiana Chamaedorea klotzschiana Chamaedorea oblongata Chamaedorea elegans and glaucifolia ,live, but burning leaves 1 GIUSEPPE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phoenikakias Posted January 25, 2017 Report Share Posted January 25, 2017 On 22/1/2017, 8:37:24, gyuseppe said: my big archontophoenix cunninghamiana all burned, not nice to see! But it seems alive, we hope that not dies phoenix roebelenii leaves burned , but alive hybrid phoenix roebelenii x reclinata ,slightly burned I have lost 4 roebelenii, two in the ground and two in pots, after the 2004 cold spell with only -2 to -3 C, they nasty little things, when it comes to marginal conditions 1 hour ago, gyuseppe said: dead some chamaedorea of these species seifrizii,costaricana ,tepejilote ,woodsoniana ,pochutlensis , many of chamaedorea cataractarum of these species, all live ,no dead Chamaedorea hooperiana Chamaedorea klotzschiana Chamaedorea oblongata Chamaedorea elegans and glaucifolia ,live, but burning leaves Chamaedorea costaricana and pochutlensis may sprout gain from the ground, if rzizome is saved, so very important, that plants are ground planted. I, on the other side, lost oblongata and glaucifolia after 2004 cold spell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phoenikakias Posted January 25, 2017 Report Share Posted January 25, 2017 1 hour ago, gyuseppe said: dead: some small archontophoenix cunninghamiana some small rhopalostylis 3 phoenix pusilla(all) 1 phoenix loureiroii x roebelenii Do you have any other loureiroi x roebelenii, which survived? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gyuseppe Posted January 25, 2017 Author Report Share Posted January 25, 2017 chamaedorea oblongata leaves only slightly burned a phoenix roebelenii in the ground, perhaps dead, I let you know yes only 1 loureiroi x roebelenii is died,yes I have other 3 ,but this that it died, the look is many roebelenii,indeed it was!, I was very fond of this! GIUSEPPE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gyuseppe Posted January 25, 2017 Author Report Share Posted January 25, 2017 livistona mariae ,no sign of burns on the leaves! livistona rigida, very little ,but little, burning leaves , almost nothing GIUSEPPE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palmensammler Posted January 25, 2017 Report Share Posted January 25, 2017 Hi Giuseppe, I've been in your area two years ago during summer time. I remember all these beautiful palms and other exotic plants. It's crazy and makes me sad to hear about your dead palm trees. I'll cross my fingers that a lot will recover. In my area (close to Stuttgart, southwest of Germany) we had many nights with temps down to -12 to -14°C (10 to 6°F). My Trachys are looking a little bit frosted, hopefully the damages will not be to strong. But the forecast is good, temps are rising up to 10°C (50°F) This was for sure a winter which showed us the borders for the gardening with palms. All my Yucca look excellent. Eckhard 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phoenikakias Posted January 25, 2017 Report Share Posted January 25, 2017 3 hours ago, gyuseppe said: chamaedorea oblongata leaves only slightly burned a phoenix roebelenii in the ground, perhaps dead, I let you know yes only 1 loureiroi x roebelenii is died,yes I have other 3 ,but this that it died, the look is many roebelenii,indeed it was!, I was very fond of this! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gyuseppe Posted January 27, 2017 Author Report Share Posted January 27, 2017 (edited) archontophoenix cunninghamiana Edited January 27, 2017 by gyuseppe 1 GIUSEPPE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gyuseppe Posted January 27, 2017 Author Report Share Posted January 27, 2017 Encephalartos natalensis Now with bronze colored leaves 2 GIUSEPPE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gyuseppe Posted January 27, 2017 Author Report Share Posted January 27, 2017 phoenix rupicola 1 GIUSEPPE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gyuseppe Posted January 27, 2017 Author Report Share Posted January 27, 2017 livistona mariae ,no sign of burns on the leaves! 2 GIUSEPPE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gyuseppe Posted January 27, 2017 Author Report Share Posted January 27, 2017 arenga micrantha I thought that this species most resistant 1 GIUSEPPE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gyuseppe Posted January 27, 2017 Author Report Share Posted January 27, 2017 Phoenix reclinata 1 GIUSEPPE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gyuseppe Posted January 27, 2017 Author Report Share Posted January 27, 2017 (edited) Edited January 27, 2017 by gyuseppe GIUSEPPE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gyuseppe Posted January 27, 2017 Author Report Share Posted January 27, 2017 heliconia schiedeana,never flourished, but the cultivation, a good foliage 2 GIUSEPPE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gyuseppe Posted January 27, 2017 Author Report Share Posted January 27, 2017 (edited) Strelitzia giant bird of paradise,today in the years even in winter always look good Edited January 27, 2017 by gyuseppe 2 GIUSEPPE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gyuseppe Posted January 27, 2017 Author Report Share Posted January 27, 2017 in this picture, you see bananas with leaves damaged after the winter, while strelitzia with leaves never ruined after winter 1 GIUSEPPE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gyuseppe Posted January 27, 2017 Author Report Share Posted January 27, 2017 even the cats are all cooled and weak! we hope that now that the most sunny days, the cats in shooting 3 GIUSEPPE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monòver Posted January 28, 2017 Report Share Posted January 28, 2017 Wow!!! I am sorry Gyuseppe. These are big damage, but they are strong plants. I am sure February will be warmer and your plants will recover. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gyuseppe Posted January 28, 2017 Author Report Share Posted January 28, 2017 syagrus romanzoffiana and Acoelorraphe wrightii ,no sign of burns on the leaves livistona saribus,livistona fulva,brahea moorei, very little ,but little, burning leaves , almost nothing 1 GIUSEPPE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthSeaNate Posted January 28, 2017 Report Share Posted January 28, 2017 It was cold last night in Cyprus, Larnaca airport had a minimum temperature of 0.3C 1 Malta - USDA Zone 11a Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monòver Posted January 28, 2017 Report Share Posted January 28, 2017 39 minutes ago, SouthSeaNate said: It was cold last night in Cyprus, Larnaca airport had a minimum temperature of 0.3C Crazy Winter! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gilles06 Posted January 29, 2017 Report Share Posted January 29, 2017 (edited) Hello Gyuseppe, What a cold you got, with a lot of burned leaves. But i think you will have good surprises in summer. Do not cut the leaves now and wait for hot weather. Many species will recover... Ciao Edited January 29, 2017 by gilles06 mistake elevation 328 feet distance from mediteranean sea 1,1 mile lowest t° 2009/2010 : 27F lowest t° 2008/2009 : 33F lowest t° 2007/2008 : 32F lowest t° 2006/2007 : 35F lowest t° 2005/2006 : 27F lowest t° 2004/2005 : 25F Historical lowest t° 1985 : 18F Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phoenikakias Posted January 29, 2017 Report Share Posted January 29, 2017 Never expected to see in Naples a cold-scorched Phoenix reclinata. But I am also pleasantly surprised with the appearance of Archontophoenix cunninghamiana! Really, with -5C I still see green on it, not only on petioles and crownshaft but also on some leaflets!!! I have a feeling that this palm has not carked yet. On the other hand all plants of my Archontophoenix collection were killed by the 2004 freaky cold spell, but latter was accompanied also by a two days long blizard, it had not reached -5 C though... Still wondering whether leting a palm grow under full sun, makes leaves cold hardier to an advective freeze, in latter case an overhead canopy has anyway no benefit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phoenikakias Posted January 29, 2017 Report Share Posted January 29, 2017 @gyuseppe have you take any protection measures for any of those palms? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthSeaNate Posted January 29, 2017 Report Share Posted January 29, 2017 Another cold night in Cyprus last night with a low of -0.3C in Paphos. 1 Malta - USDA Zone 11a Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gyuseppe Posted January 29, 2017 Author Report Share Posted January 29, 2017 2 hours ago, Phoenikakias said: @gyuseppe have you take any protection measures for any of those palms? never protected anything some chamaedorea are repaired, but those mentioned totally out GIUSEPPE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gyuseppe Posted January 29, 2017 Author Report Share Posted January 29, 2017 sabal domingensis, damage visible on the leaves chamaedorea metallica, are in garden, but under leaves livistona chinensis, then protected, are all alive! big howea forsteriana, very sheltered, is located in the small of my mother's garden, few visible damage 1 GIUSEPPE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gyuseppe Posted January 29, 2017 Author Report Share Posted January 29, 2017 livistona muelleri, protected, no damage visible on the leaves livistona lanuginosa,protected, no damage visible on the leaves syagrus x costae,protected,very little damage visible on the leaves 1 GIUSEPPE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gyuseppe Posted February 5, 2017 Author Report Share Posted February 5, 2017 allagoptera arenaria dead ! 1 GIUSEPPE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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