Lytocaryum insigne

[Pal Meir]

Update: The distance between the tips of prophyll and peduncular bract is 36 cm (#3) resp. 32,5 cm (#4). The temperature in the morning was 12°C …

[Eric33]

Pal,

What temperature do you put it inside ?

[Pal Meir]

44 minutes ago, Eric33 said:

Pal,

What temperature do you put it inside ?

At 0°C. We had yesterday in the morning 3°C, at present 12°C.

[Eric33]

Ok, he will go home soon 🙂

[Pal Meir]

Now indoors because of temperatures about -4°C the palm woke up and the spathe of inflorescence #3 has opened:

PS: The peduncular bract of inflorescence #4 is now 38 cm long.

[Pal Meir]

One day later:

(peduncular bract 38.5 cm long)

[Pal Meir]

The pistillate flowers are falling down …

The palm tree is now only overnight indoors. 

[Pal Meir]

Oops! Of course not the pistillate, but the staminate (male) flowers are falling. Now I am waiting for the pistillate flowers blooming …

[Pal Meir]

Which one is the better Christmas tree, the Christmas palm or the Lytocaryum insigne? 😇

[Pal Meir]

It seems that the 3rd inflorescence also only produces male (staminate) flowers, not a single female one. ☹️

[Pal Meir]

Hopefully this time also with female flowers …?

[Pal Meir]

12 hours later:

[Frond-friend42]

On 12/9/2023 at 2:20 PM, Pal Meir said:

Which one is the better Christmas tree, the Christmas palm or the Lytocaryum insigne? 😇

I think I know what you want us to answer....definitely agree it's a prettier more festive tree. 

[Pal Meir]

The palm tree lost three fronds during a storm on Christmas Eve. – Inflorescence #4 again did not produce even a single female flower.

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[Pal Meir]

Happy germination day, N°1401! Today 10 yr old. 🥳

[kristof p]

In what kind of soil would you plant S. hoehnei.... I have just recieved a small seedling. 

[Pal Meir]

49 minutes ago, kristof p said:

In what kind of soil would you plant S. hoehnei.... I have just recieved a small seedling. 

How small is your seedling? Photo pls!

Fine pine bark + Seramis + LECA + LECA on bottom of pot:

[kristof p]

10 hours ago, Pal Meir said:

How small is your seedling? Photo pls!

Fine pine bark + Seramis + LECA + LECA on bottom of pot:

It is just now starting making it's eophyll leaf so it is still very small. I will make a picture this weekend when I pick it up at my parents home. I always let my plant orders go to my parents adress because they are always home.

I have read all your experiences with the former Lytocaryum species. You have done great work with these!!! I already have seramis and pine bark (2-8mm) but I could not find LECA around here. Would some shards from broken clay pots be any good to put on the bottem? I also have lava grit (2-3mm), Would you add this mineral rich lava grit in the soil? 

I also have 2 small L.  weddellianum seedlings coming my way and in my propagator I have 5 germinated L. insignis seeds that I will plant in this soil mix this weekend :). My Lytocaryum collection is almost complete.  

Edited February 22, 2024 by kristof p

[Pal Meir]

11 hours ago, kristof p said:

It is just now starting making it's eophyll leaf so it is still very small. I will make a picture this weekend when I pick it up at my parents home. I always let my plant orders go to my parents adress because they are always home.

I have read all your experiences with the former Lytocaryum species. You have done great work with these!!! I already have seramis and pine bark (2-8mm) but I could not find LECA around here. Would some shards from broken clay pots be any good to put on the bottem? I also have lava grit (2-3mm), Would you add this mineral rich lava grit in the soil? 

I also have 2 small L.  weddellianum seedlings coming my way and in my propagator I have 5 germinated L. insignis seeds that I will plant in this soil mix this weekend :). My Lytocaryum collection is almost complete.  

There is a thread only for L hoehnei:

Don‘t set the seedlings in pots that are too large or too deep. The first pots I normally use are 8x8x9cm ones. L weddellianum has roots which go down deeper, the other two have flat root systems because they grow on rocks, L insigne grows on very steep slopes with permanent fresh water (from water falls or clouds). — Lava grit may be very similar to LECA, but 2-3mm is too fine for a bottom layer.

[kristof p]

 

On 2/22/2024 at 4:58 PM, Pal Meir said:

There is a thread only for L hoehnei:

Don‘t set the seedlings in pots that are too large or too deep. The first pots I normally use are 8x8x9cm ones. L weddellianum has roots which go down deeper, the other two have flat root systems because they grow on rocks, L insigne grows on very steep slopes with permanent fresh water (from water falls or clouds). — Lava grit may be very similar to LECA, but 2-3mm is too fine for a bottom layer.

Today I have put the germinated L. insignis seeds in small containers containing 1/2 pine bark and 1/2 seramis. I placed them under the plant lights where I grow up my small pepper seedlings during this time of the year. Temperatures are around 25°C/26°C with the lamp on and 16°C/18°C at night with the lamp off.  I will place some foil on top of the pots to keep the moisture level high until they show up above ground  . The seeds sprouted in 8 days btw! Very fresh seeds

Edited February 24, 2024 by kristof p

[Pal Meir]

Recovering from storm damages last winter:

[Pal Meir]

Seen from outside:

[Pal Meir]

It is autumn now in Balconia Germanica (7°C):

[TropicsEnjoyer]

I love seeing the progressive growth. Very beautiful lesser known palm.

[Pal Meir]

5th inflorescence, palm is no indoors:

[Pal Meir]

… and today #6:

[kristof p]

On 2/24/2024 at 2:31 PM, kristof p said:

 

Today I have put the germinated L. insignis seeds in small containers containing 1/2 pine bark and 1/2 seramis. I placed them under the plant lights where I grow up my small pepper seedlings during this time of the year. Temperatures are around 25°C/26°C with the lamp on and 16°C/18°C at night with the lamp off.  I will place some foil on top of the pots to keep the moisture level high until they show up above ground  . The seeds sprouted in 8 days btw! Very fresh seeds

now, 10 months later it is clear the S. insignis seeds I bought on RPS are not S. insignis. I have no idea what they are. I grow them together with S. weddellianum. All plants are the same age but all the weddellianum look the same with smaller and more numerous leaflets then the S. "insignis" seedlings. Hybrids or another species? 

mystery Syagrus on the left and S. weddellianum on the right.

[kristof p]

the seeds....

mystery Syagrus on the left, S. hoehnei in the middle and S. weddellianum on the right

 

[JohnStraz]

Does anyone know how Bill Dickenson's lytoagrus' are doing there up in Brea Ca?

[psy460]

On 12/25/2024 at 11:39 AM, kristof p said:

now, 10 months later it is clear the S. insignis seeds I bought on RPS are not S. insignis. I have no idea what they are. I grow them together with S. weddellianum. All plants are the same age but all the weddellianum look the same with smaller and more numerous leaflets then the S. "insignis" seedlings. Hybrids or another species? 

mystery Syagrus on the left and S. weddellianum on the right.

yes looks like simple weddellianum

[gyuseppe]

Pal Meir had also sent me a plant, that was alive here and could withstand light frost, but it died because I had health problems.

[kristof p]

7 minutes ago, psy460 said:

yes looks like simple weddellianum

the left one is different. It is bigger in everything then L. weddellianum of the same age...

[psy460]

i got weddellianum from 3 different sources, and the 3 are differents.  i think it's just the specie variability

[kristof p]

1 hour ago, psy460 said:

i got weddellianum from 3 different sources, and the 3 are differents.  i think it's just the specie variability

could be variation but a lot is differant. Bigger longer and wider leaflets. The leaflets are less numerous and the arrangement of the leaflets is different (different angle). Also the seeds are bigger and rounder then L. weddellianum seeds. I think they are maybe L. hoehnei x weddellianum. None of my weddelliana palms look like this...

[psy460]

here is two differents sources, about the same size. growing next to each other