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1 minute ago, Ben in Norcal said:

Yep - my front yard is mulched, very few weeds.  Back can't really be mulched because of steep slopes, and that's where I have to spray.  I'd prefer not to use glyophosate, but there's really no way around it when an absolute carpet of weeds pops up this time of year.

I agree, chemicals are bad but necessary in our cases. 

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On 12/25/2015, 3:34:47, Ben in Norcal said:

gonna go below freezing tonight at the vista garden :( 

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On 12/25/2015, 3:34:47, Ben in Norcal said:

gonna go below freezing tonight at the vista garden :( 

Last night?  Really?  We're back up to the high-30s here.  But, the next week or so looks cool/cold.  Definitely stuck in a cold, dry pattern.

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My back yard weather station: http://www.wunderground.com/cgi-bin/findweather/hdfForecast?query=37.954%2C-121.945&sp=KCACONCO37

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On 12/25/2015, 3:34:47, Ben in Norcal said:

Inland San Diego is just getting slammed with cold air. It makes no sense to me. I was 39F at my house in carlsbad and the WU station down the street hit 31.6F

Its only short duration but still make the gut bubble..hahahaha

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Wow. A seven and a half degree difference down the street means that either you have a great microclimate or else the guy down the street is in a cold sink.....or his WU thermometer is just plain off.

We had at least 84 fahrenheit today.  No cold yet this winter. I pity you guys out west getting slammed.

 

 

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3 hours ago, Sandy Loam said:

Wow. A seven and a half degree difference down the street means that either you have a great microclimate or else the guy down the street is in a cold sink.....or his WU thermometer is just plain off.

We had at least 84 fahrenheit today.  No cold yet this winter. I pity you guys out west getting slammed.

 

 

My Vista garden is defiantly in a cold sink. I'm just glad its only for short duration's.

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Ben from Nor. Cal came down (drove 500 miles..WOW!) to hang out at the "up and coming Vista garden" for a fun PRA

NachoCarl a fellow palm talker and friend joined in on the action as well. The sun was shining and the weather was perfect for a fun little PRA.

Theirs Nothing like having fun spending the day with fellow palmaddicts..

IMG_3554.JPG.3bbdad7cf1f9c433bdf2ec7aa30Ben on the right and carl on the left posing with a couple nice copernicia Maccroglossa's

IMG_3555.JPG.f9c103a07a755dbf9129fc6cbe0Ben next to a white triangle

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IMG_3557.JPG.cb01170cdcd7308b480edd51329posing with adypsis mananjarensis  

 

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Josh, you definitely have some nice specimens out there, no doubt about it.  I'm warming up to Copernicia but man are they expensive.  I know the Florida guys must think we're insane out here but I will plant a few Lord Howe and New Zealand things around the property just because I can.:rolleyes:  Hmmm.....cycads or Copernicia?

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1 hour ago, nachocarl said:

Josh, you definitely have some nice specimens out there, no doubt about it.  I'm warming up to Copernicia but man are they expensive.  I know the Florida guys must think we're insane out here but I will plant a few Lord Howe and New Zealand things around the property just because I can.:rolleyes:  Hmmm.....cycads or Copernicia?

Uhhh, hello. Copernicia..!

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I vote cycads, they grow faster!  :D  I have yet to come around to Copernicia.  

Josh, you have an amazing place in development there.  I am so glad I made the trip, so now I can see how it develops over the years.  Again I thank you for being so giving of your time, it was great to spend a few hours there and with you guys.  And, Carl, it was great to meet you too!

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My back yard weather station: http://www.wunderground.com/cgi-bin/findweather/hdfForecast?query=37.954%2C-121.945&sp=KCACONCO37

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2 hours ago, Ben in Norcal said:

I vote cycads, they grow faster!  :D  I have yet to come around to Copernicia.  

Josh, you have an amazing place in development there.  I am so glad I made the trip, so now I can see how it develops over the years.  Again I thank you for being so giving of your time, it was great to spend a few hours there and with you guys.  And, Carl, it was great to meet you too!

someday the copernicia bug will bite you? Muha hu ha ha ha ha ha

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10 hours ago, Josh-O said:

Uhhh, hello. Copernicia..!

5207615819_5f449458a1.jpg C. Macroglossa

2ec646.jpg C prunifera

Watch out this bug bites hard...lol

 

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54 minutes ago, Josh-O said:

5207615819_5f449458a1.jpg C. Macroglossa

2ec646.jpg C prunifera

Watch out this bug bites hard...lol

 

Ship me one that size and I'll see if the bug bites me. :D  Don't get me wrong, would love to have one, but not willing to either pay several grand or wait 50 years!

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On the border of Concord & Clayton in the East Bay hills - Elev 387 ft 37.95 °N, 121.94 °W

My back yard weather station: http://www.wunderground.com/cgi-bin/findweather/hdfForecast?query=37.954%2C-121.945&sp=KCACONCO37

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1 minute ago, Ben in Norcal said:

Ship me one that size and I'll see if the bug bites me. :D  Don't get me wrong, would love to have one, but not willing to either pay several grand or wait 50 years!

they are slow :( 

but worth the wait. 

You look like you 34yrs old. Time is on your side :D

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1 hour ago, Josh-O said:

they are slow :( 

but worth the wait. 

You look like you 34yrs old. Time is on your side :D

41 but thanks man! I'm impatient, too.

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My back yard weather station: http://www.wunderground.com/cgi-bin/findweather/hdfForecast?query=37.954%2C-121.945&sp=KCACONCO37

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1 hour ago, Ben in Norcal said:

Ship me one that size and I'll see if the bug bites me. :D  Don't get me wrong, would love to have one, but not willing to either pay several grand or wait 50 years!

my slowest palm is Copernicia Baileyana.  That is one palm I am willing to wait for...

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Paradise Hills, 4 miles inland, south facing slope in the back, north facing yard in the front

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3 hours ago, Josh-O said:

someday the copernicia bug will bite you? Muha hu ha ha ha ha ha

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Stunning. Is this a shot from Fairchild?

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Stunning. Is this a shot from Fairchild?

Not sure if it's the same group, but this one at Fairchild was impressive (with my fiancee for scale)

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I think this is plot 115?

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2 hours ago, Pete in Paradise Hills said:

my slowest palm is Copernicia Baileyana.  That is one palm I am willing to wait for...

good choice my man!

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2 hours ago, Yunder Wækraus said:

Stunning. Is this a shot from Fairchild?

not sure but one would think?

found the pic off the web

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23 minutes ago, Zeeth said:

Not sure if it's the same group, but this one at Fairchild was impressive (with my fiancee for scale)

IMG_4064_zps6qlf0o4r.jpg

I think this is plot 115?

WHOA!!!!!

How old are those bad boys?

 

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The 'Growth Rates of Palms in Fairchild Tropical Garden' article published in the Palms magazine says that they're 53 years old. 

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2 hours ago, Zeeth said:

The 'Growth Rates of Palms in Fairchild Tropical Garden' article published in the Palms magazine says that they're 53 years old. 

that would make them 106 yrs in California years?

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4 storms approaching our way ='s 5 days of rain ahead of us yipeeeee!

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I have recently planted a couple oddball but hard to find syagrus species in the garden. These have been on my wish list for a long time so it's nice to have finally have them in the ground.

568a07d2b35cc_syagruscomosa.JPG.617b918asyagrus comosa

568a07d7094c4_syagruscardensaii.JPG.6804syagrus cardenasii

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just planted some more canopy trees to help buffer against cold in the future.

IMG_3452.JPG.954d39ee2573e2b177f0601fb96brachychiton populneus

IMG_3454.JPG.816bf5c594b28c02762ba15c004michelia C. var. alba

IMG_3455.JPG.5139fa93835c7f865ea270848d8acacia xanthophloea

IMG_3459.JPG.018ff441db86dc459653cf7f13einga edulis(produces yummy fruits)

 

 

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9 hours ago, Josh-O said:

I have recently planted a couple oddball but hard to find syagrus species in the garden. These have been on my wish list for a long time so it's nice to have finally have them in the ground.

568a07d2b35cc_syagruscomosa.JPG.617b918asyagrus comosa

568a07d7094c4_syagruscardensaii.JPG.6804syagrus cardenasii

I have never even heard of these, Josh!  I will need to look these up.

I am pretty psyched as I have a new Syagrus hybrid seedling just coming up - Syagrus x Campos-Portoana.  Hopefully some more of those pop!

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My back yard weather station: http://www.wunderground.com/cgi-bin/findweather/hdfForecast?query=37.954%2C-121.945&sp=KCACONCO37

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8 hours ago, Ben in Norcal said:

I have never even heard of these, Josh!  I will need to look these up.

I am pretty psyched as I have a new Syagrus hybrid seedling just coming up - Syagrus x Campos-Portoana.  Hopefully some more of those pop!

Please put me on your list. I will buy one off you is you have any to sell down the road. Sounds like a outstanding hybrid!! you have very good taste!

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30 minutes ago, Josh-O said:

Please put me on your list. I will buy one off you is you have any to sell down the road. Sounds like a outstanding hybrid!! you have very good taste!

Done.  I currently only have the one coming up, but will let you know if more pop/make it out of the community pot.  I think Alberto in Brazil did this cross, but not 100% on that.

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My back yard weather station: http://www.wunderground.com/cgi-bin/findweather/hdfForecast?query=37.954%2C-121.945&sp=KCACONCO37

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28 minutes ago, Matt in OC said:

Looking good, Josh. Did you consider any Tabebuias? 

Hi Matt,

absolutely, Any specie suggestions? 

 

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3 minutes ago, Ben in Norcal said:

Done.  I currently only have the one coming up, but will let you know if more pop/make it out of the community pot.  I think Alberto in Brazil did this cross, but not 100% on that.

Alberto is the master at hybridizing the syagrus genus..

Nice score!

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14 minutes ago, Josh-O said:

Hi Matt,

absolutely, Any specie suggestions? 

 

I'm pondering a T. impetignosa but not sure if I have the space.

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16 minutes ago, Matt in OC said:

I'm pondering a T. impetignosa but not sure if I have the space.

I just googled it!

I'm getting one for sure.

This is an out standing tree. Its to bad they are deciduous and not evergreen.

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The time has finally come....YIPEEEEE!

The deal has been stamped and sealed with the concrete contractor. (no puns intended..lol)

We are making last minute preparations before the concrete pathways are going to be poured very soon.

I decide to go with a color concrete that will have a heavy brushed finished. 

A big shout out to Dennis Willoughby who has put in almost 100 voluntary hours at the garden/ nursery this past few months to make this pathway project possible.

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IMG_3689.JPG.fe83d696fbfa4a92c9ab2e0e74cDennis W. hard at work making this pathway project possible

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5 hours ago, Ben in Norcal said:

Gonna be nice - can't wait to see concrete down!

I cant wait. This project has been sucking the life out of me 

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