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This is one of my smallest Alcantareas so I was surprised to see this today.I am both excited and saddened by this event.

I know my resident charm of hummingbirds will be very excited.

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This is one of my smallest Alcantareas so I was surprised to see this today.I am both excited and saddened by this event.

I know my resident charm of hummingbirds will be very excited.

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Post some pics of all your others pls Scott, Alcantarea's are great Giant broms eh :)

Pete

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Saddened? Is this one of the semelparous varieties?

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Saddened? Is this one of the semelparous varieties?

Yes it is semelparous. They produce grass pups during their early maturity and many years later produce a spectacular bloom.

Then die.

El Oasis - beach garden, distinct wet/dry season ,year round 20-38c

Las Heliconias - jungle garden ,800m elevation,150+ inches rainfall, year round 15-28c

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This is one of my smallest Alcantareas so I was surprised to see this today.I am both excited and saddened by this event.

I know my resident charm of hummingbirds will be very excited.

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Post some pics of all your others pls Scott, Alcantarea's are great Giant broms eh :)

Pete

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post-175-0-41999800-1432069013_thumb.jpg Alcantarea odorata

El Oasis - beach garden, distinct wet/dry season ,year round 20-38c

Las Heliconias - jungle garden ,800m elevation,150+ inches rainfall, year round 15-28c

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post-175-0-41999800-1432069013_thumb.jpg I need a "few" odorata's here Scott, dont know why I havnt any ? I get into broms more than palms in autumn/winter :) Pete

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Two of my Alcantarea odoratas flowered last year. They both left healthy pups. Two others have gotten bigger than those ever did.

My two big Alcantarea imperialis have been around more than a decade, huge, but not showing signs of flowering. They got so big, I had to build a retaining wall for one after its pot had fallen over and broke (I glued it back together to display some smaller plants), and ringed the other's pot with a retaining wall to keep everything in place.

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If available, avail yourself of Tillandsia rauhii and T. australis to go with your Alcantereas. Two hugely under-utilized plants IMHO.

 

 

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Here is my odorata :) among others. I find the North American version of odorata (such as yours, Scott) far more attractive than the ones I've seen here in Australia.

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Here is my odorata :) among others. I find the North American version of odorata (such as yours, Scott) far more attractive than the ones I've seen here in Australia.

Riddler, yours looks more Glaziouana than Odorata.

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Perhaps Pete, it definitely doesn't look like the odorata's I've seen online, it was an impulse buy from a Brom show. This was the first time I'd seen odorata available, it was labelled as Alcantarea odorata 'Silver Bah'.

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Perhaps Pete, it definitely doesn't look like the odorata's I've seen online, it was an impulse buy from a Brom show. This was the first time I'd seen odorata available, it was labelled as Alcantarea odorata 'Silver Bah'.

Steven, since your in Brisbane try the Olive branch bromeliad nursery, I think still pretty rare and pricey in Oz.

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Good idea, I purchased the Neo 'Jaline' in the photo from them and I'm pretty sure they are having a sale day in June, I'll have to try and pick one up then :)

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Perhaps Pete, it definitely doesn't look like the odorata's I've seen online, it was an impulse buy from a Brom show. This was the first time I'd seen odorata available, it was labelled as Alcantarea odorata 'Silver Bah'.

Steven, since your in Brisbane try the Olive branch bromeliad nursery, I think still pretty rare and pricey in Oz.

Yes ,I think they are expensive everywhere.The pups take forever to grow.

The next one I want is Alcantarea'Merlot' (imperialis x vinicolor).Has really nice burgundy colored foliage.

El Oasis - beach garden, distinct wet/dry season ,year round 20-38c

Las Heliconias - jungle garden ,800m elevation,150+ inches rainfall, year round 15-28c

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Perhaps Pete, it definitely doesn't look like the odorata's I've seen online, it was an impulse buy from a Brom show. This was the first time I'd seen odorata available, it was labelled as Alcantarea odorata 'Silver Bah'.

Steven, since your in Brisbane try the Olive branch bromeliad nursery, I think still pretty rare and pricey in Oz.

Yes ,I think they are expensive everywhere.The pups take forever to grow.

The next one I want is Alcantarea'Merlot' (imperialis x vinicolor).Has really nice burgundy colored foliage.

Scott, "Merlot" is stunning eh, maybe I will have to fly over and work for Karolyn for a few days for some seed ?? :) Pete

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Perhaps Pete, it definitely doesn't look like the odorata's I've seen online, it was an impulse buy from a Brom show. This was the first time I'd seen odorata available, it was labelled as Alcantarea odorata 'Silver Bah'.

Steven, since your in Brisbane try the Olive branch bromeliad nursery, I think still pretty rare and pricey in Oz.

Yes ,I think they are expensive everywhere.The pups take forever to grow.

The next one I want is Alcantarea'Merlot' (imperialis x vinicolor).Has really nice burgundy colored foliage.

Scott, "Merlot" is stunning eh, maybe I will have to fly over and work for Karolyn for a few days for some seed ?? :) Pete

There is a nursery in Florida that has pups for $40.Not really so much when you consider how slow they are from seed.

El Oasis - beach garden, distinct wet/dry season ,year round 20-38c

Las Heliconias - jungle garden ,800m elevation,150+ inches rainfall, year round 15-28c

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Perhaps Pete, it definitely doesn't look like the odorata's I've seen online, it was an impulse buy from a Brom show. This was the first time I'd seen odorata available, it was labelled as Alcantarea odorata 'Silver Bah'.

Steven, since your in Brisbane try the Olive branch bromeliad nursery, I think still pretty rare and pricey in Oz.

Yes ,I think they are expensive everywhere.The pups take forever to grow.

The next one I want is Alcantarea'Merlot' (imperialis x vinicolor).Has really nice burgundy colored foliage.

Scott, "Merlot" is stunning eh, maybe I will have to fly over and work for Karolyn for a few days for some seed ?? :) Pete

There is a nursery in Florida that has pups for $40.Not really so much when you consider how slow they are from seed.

Are you allowed plants flown into Guatemala ? I will get some off a Brom breeder in spring not far from here , he would "have" to have them

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Pete ,getting plants into Guatemala is a long tedious process. A $40 bromeliad can easily end up costing $200.

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Scott, if you like the look of these Australian Hybrid Alcantareas,( Silver Plum) give em an Email and ask for some seed, we have them growing here ( pic 4873 which is still a baby) Pete

dillingsbromeliads.com.au

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Scott, if you like the look of these Australian Hybrid Alcantareas,( Silver Plum) give em an Email and ask for some seed, we have them growing here ( pic 4873 which is still a baby) Pete

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Those are spectacular! I have never grown Alcantareas from seed.The grass pups take years to look like anything.How many years from seed?

El Oasis - beach garden, distinct wet/dry season ,year round 20-38c

Las Heliconias - jungle garden ,800m elevation,150+ inches rainfall, year round 15-28c

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Scott, if you like the look of these Australian Hybrid Alcantareas,( Silver Plum) give em an Email and ask for some seed, we have them growing here ( pic 4873 which is still a baby) Pete

dillingsbromeliads.com.au

Those are spectacular! I have never grown Alcantareas from seed.The grass pups take years to look like anything.How many years from seed?

Scott, ours where tiny in 4" pots 3 yrs ago , maybe being a hybrid they are much faster, Im not sure how old they where in 4" pots, thats a good Q to ask Dillings when you ask for seed :) , and Scott even in a 4" pot they had 6" long X 3" wide leaves. I assume they are very fast germinators as these are available in the "many" 1000s in "all" sizes here in the land of Oz :) Pete

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Here is what's sold as odorata here in Brisbane, Australia (visited a large nursery today)

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Compared to a plant at Fairchild Tropical Botanic Garden, which i believe has much more pleasing form and colour.

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Are they variations of the same species or is the Aussie version not odorata?

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Here is what's sold as odorata here in Brisbane, Australia (visited a large nursery today)

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Compared to a plant at Fairchild Tropical Botanic Garden, which i believe has much more pleasing form and colour.

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Are they variations of the same species or is the Aussie version not odorata?

Definitely "not" odorata :bummed: Pete

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thanks Pete, I've seen these non odorata's in Bunnings too, i guess someone made a mistake at some point and it stuck. :beat_deadhorse:

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Here is what's sold as odorata here in Brisbane, Australia (visited a large nursery today)

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Compared to a plant at Fairchild Tropical Botanic Garden, which i believe has much more pleasing form and colour.

attachicon.gifbromeliad-alcantarea-odorata_medium.jpg

Are they variations of the same species or is the Aussie version not odorata?

I don't think its just an Aussie problem. I've seen the same thing at a few nurseries in S Florida only they want $30-$50 for them. If I'm going to be paying that much it better be the real thing!

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Here is what's sold as odorata here in Brisbane, Australia (visited a large nursery today)

attachicon.gifphoto 3 smaller.jpg

Compared to a plant at Fairchild Tropical Botanic Garden, which i believe has much more pleasing form and colour.

attachicon.gifbromeliad-alcantarea-odorata_medium.jpg

Are they variations of the same species or is the Aussie version not odorata?

I don't think its just an Aussie problem. I've seen the same thing at a few nurseries in S Florida only they want $30-$50 for them. If I'm going to be paying that much it better be the real thing!

Rick, if you have a "good eye" you will know if its the "real" thing, and Florida is "the state" in the USA if your into Broms thats for sure.

Pete

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Very true. After seeing the "real" thing there is no mistaking it for the fake one. Still a rare brom even for Florida.

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This is where many grow on the mountains for Southeast Brazil. It is a beautiful sight when they are in bloom They are pretty hard to get close to though,

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This is where many grow on the mountains for Southeast Brazil. It is a beautiful sight when they are in bloom They are pretty hard to get close to though,

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Amazing photo,looks like they are growing on solid granite.

El Oasis - beach garden, distinct wet/dry season ,year round 20-38c

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