The Silent Seed Posted November 4, 2014 Report Share Posted November 4, 2014 Hi gang I have a chance to get seeds - but this is one I don't have any experience with - is it desirable? Is it rare? Hard to get seeds? Etc etc. Thanks in advance! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff Posted November 4, 2014 Report Share Posted November 4, 2014 Very rare… only seen a couple plants in my life and never ever seen one for sale. VERY desirable plant Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoomsDave Posted November 4, 2014 Report Share Posted November 4, 2014 Very nice, indeed. They're a blue Brahea, but slender, with all the Brahea attributes for a place like California. Likes heat, takes drought, and lots of sun. Armatas are a nice blue, too, but they're fat in the trunk and some think they're ungainly. Moorei would be easier to use in a landscape. Quote Let's keep our forum fun and friendly. Any data in this post is provided 'as is' and in no event shall I be liable for any damages, including, without limitation, damages resulting from accuracy or lack thereof, insult, or lost profits or revenue, claims by third parties or for other similar costs, or any special, incidental, or consequential damages arising out of my opinion or the use of this data. The accuracy or reliability of the data is not guaranteed or warranted in any way and I disclaim liability of any kind whatsoever, including, without limitation, liability for quality, performance, merchantability and fitness for a particular purpose arising out of the use, or inability to use my data. Other terms may apply. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Silent Seed Posted November 4, 2014 Author Report Share Posted November 4, 2014 Thanks gang! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cikas Posted November 4, 2014 Report Share Posted November 4, 2014 (edited) Brahea moorei is trunkless specie. Dwarf palm. Great for foreground and as understory palm. Edited November 4, 2014 by Cikas 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JEFF IN MODESTO Posted November 4, 2014 Report Share Posted November 4, 2014 Glenn, here in Modesto has several... very nice looking palms. 1 Quote Modesto, CA USDA 9b July/August average 95f/63f Dec/Jan average 55f/39f Average lowest winter temp 27f Record low temp 18f Record high temp 113f Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gyuseppe Posted November 4, 2014 Report Share Posted November 4, 2014 photo is from a few years ago, now they are much larger 2 Quote GIUSEPPE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Silent Seed Posted November 4, 2014 Author Report Share Posted November 4, 2014 That blue one is gorgeous! I have seen several examples that are green (photos) - such as the one above - are some blue, and some green? Or ? I've confirmed that I will be getting them. Are they straightforward for germination? One source online says they have a low percentage of survival? (Actually it may have been an old palmtalk thread.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rafael Posted November 4, 2014 Report Share Posted November 4, 2014 Brahea moorei is trunkless specie. Dwarf palm. Great for foreground and as understory palm. Where did you get this one from Jurica? Quote Furadouro and Ovar, zone 9b/10a. PORTUGALhttp://www.palmtalk.org/forum/index.php?showtopic=20668http://www.palmtalk.org/forum/index.php?/topic/31527-my-new-garden-ovar-january2012/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cikas Posted November 4, 2014 Report Share Posted November 4, 2014 (edited) Brahea moorei is trunkless specie. Dwarf palm. Great for foreground and as understory palm. Where did you get this one from Jurica? It is not mine. Random photo from the net ( This Brahea moorei on the photo is from Portugal ). You can get seedlings of this palm at http://www.mypalmshop.com/Other%20outdoor%20palms#prettyPhoto Larger plants are harder to find, at least in Europe. That blue one is gorgeous! I have seen several examples that are green (photos) - such as the one above - are some blue, and some green? Or ? I've confirmed that I will be getting them. Are they straightforward for germination? One source online says they have a low percentage of survival? (Actually it may have been an old palmtalk thread.) Apparently they are green first few years, they get silver color later ( similar as Brahea Super silver ). Edited November 4, 2014 by Cikas 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sergiskan Posted November 5, 2014 Report Share Posted November 5, 2014 woow!...beautiful brahea!... this one in the Pic has size to set seeds. very slowly as seedling... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Silent Seed Posted November 5, 2014 Author Report Share Posted November 5, 2014 Thanks for all the info! What would you consider is a reasonable price for say, 10 seeds? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh-O Posted November 6, 2014 Report Share Posted November 6, 2014 Hi All, I'm new to Palm talk but have been a palm nut for many years. I would also be interested in buying some B. Moorei seeds. How many do you have and what would your price be? Also, do you have a picture you can share from the plant the seeds came from? Quote Carlsbad, California Zone 10 B on the hill (402 ft. elevation) Sunset zone 24 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh-O Posted November 6, 2014 Report Share Posted November 6, 2014 send me a PM to let me know the availability and cost Quote Carlsbad, California Zone 10 B on the hill (402 ft. elevation) Sunset zone 24 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben in Norcal Posted November 6, 2014 Report Share Posted November 6, 2014 You should list in the Plants Wanted forum. Quote Ben RogersOn the border of Concord & Clayton in the East Bay hills - Elev 387 ft 37.95 °N, 121.94 °W My back yard weather station: http://www.wunderground.com/cgi-bin/findweather/hdfForecast?query=37.954%2C-121.945&sp=KCACONCO37 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Silent Seed Posted November 6, 2014 Author Report Share Posted November 6, 2014 (edited) Josh - first of all; welcome! You are new - so you may not realize that this particular forum isn't for selling - but for sharing information. As Ben stated; you could put an ad in the wanted section if you are looking for these seeds. The reason I've asked about reasonable pricing, as well as general information on this one is because I've never seen them offered before - here, or elsewhere. Feel free to PM me for more information. I have asked for photos of the parent plant - thanks for that suggestion. Any input on germination, and high percentage of seedling die-off? Thanks! Edited November 6, 2014 by santoury Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh-O Posted November 6, 2014 Report Share Posted November 6, 2014 Thanks guys for the feed back. I'll take your advise on posting on the wanted section next time. mahalo, Quote Carlsbad, California Zone 10 B on the hill (402 ft. elevation) Sunset zone 24 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben in Norcal Posted November 6, 2014 Report Share Posted November 6, 2014 BTW, Patric Schafer has some very small Moorei seedlings. I got a 1g plant off him this spring, but I think all he has now are strap-leafers. Quote Ben RogersOn the border of Concord & Clayton in the East Bay hills - Elev 387 ft 37.95 °N, 121.94 °W My back yard weather station: http://www.wunderground.com/cgi-bin/findweather/hdfForecast?query=37.954%2C-121.945&sp=KCACONCO37 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh-O Posted November 6, 2014 Report Share Posted November 6, 2014 great suggestion!!! I'll give Patric a call. I bought some cool stuff from him in in the past. I didn't know he had B. Moorei seedlings buy now I do Quote Carlsbad, California Zone 10 B on the hill (402 ft. elevation) Sunset zone 24 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Silent Seed Posted November 6, 2014 Author Report Share Posted November 6, 2014 Hey guys, Is Patric a member here? I'd like to contact him, but don't see if he is in the member list just by his first name - I'd like to pick his brain about planting my upcoming seeds, since he obviously knows how to grow them. If you prefer, you can PM me his contact info if you don't want it public. Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben in Norcal Posted November 6, 2014 Report Share Posted November 6, 2014 Hey guys, Is Patric a member here? I'd like to contact him, but don't see if he is in the member list just by his first name - I'd like to pick his brain about planting my upcoming seeds, since he obviously knows how to grow them. If you prefer, you can PM me his contact info if you don't want it public. Thanks! He reads here. His address has been published in enough threads, so it's coolhybrids@wildblue.net. Quote Ben RogersOn the border of Concord & Clayton in the East Bay hills - Elev 387 ft 37.95 °N, 121.94 °W My back yard weather station: http://www.wunderground.com/cgi-bin/findweather/hdfForecast?query=37.954%2C-121.945&sp=KCACONCO37 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh-O Posted November 6, 2014 Report Share Posted November 6, 2014 His stuff is awesome. I bought some Jubea X Queen seedlings last year and they have tripled in size and currently reside in 5 gal pots. I also bought some butia yatay X queen = short mule. they are now in 15 gal's from a plant band in 1 year. extremely fast growers. Quote Carlsbad, California Zone 10 B on the hill (402 ft. elevation) Sunset zone 24 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben in Norcal Posted November 6, 2014 Report Share Posted November 6, 2014 His stuff is awesome. I bought some Jubea X Queen seedlings last year and they have tripled in size and currently reside in 5 gal pots. I also bought some butia yatay X queen = short mule. they are now in 15 gal's from a plant band in 1 year. extremely fast growers. I'm surprised the Yatay mule would be shorter. Yatay are supposed to be the tallest growing Butia. I am counting on my Yatay mules to be taller...and perhaps with a slightly thinner trunk. Quote Ben RogersOn the border of Concord & Clayton in the East Bay hills - Elev 387 ft 37.95 °N, 121.94 °W My back yard weather station: http://www.wunderground.com/cgi-bin/findweather/hdfForecast?query=37.954%2C-121.945&sp=KCACONCO37 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Silent Seed Posted November 6, 2014 Author Report Share Posted November 6, 2014 I've emailed him already - thank you. Anyone else working with B. moorei ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh-O Posted November 7, 2014 Report Share Posted November 7, 2014 Hi Ben, I'm on the same thought path as you with yatay being a taller Butia. I thought it was odd when Patric said it was call a short mule. I also have some Jubes X Parajubea C. and they are legit 15 gal plants from a plant band last year. I'm sure glad that patric does these cool looking cold hardy hybrid palms. Quote Carlsbad, California Zone 10 B on the hill (402 ft. elevation) Sunset zone 24 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben in Norcal Posted November 7, 2014 Report Share Posted November 7, 2014 JxPJC? That's one I don't have now. I only have a JxS. Another for the list!! Quote Ben RogersOn the border of Concord & Clayton in the East Bay hills - Elev 387 ft 37.95 °N, 121.94 °W My back yard weather station: http://www.wunderground.com/cgi-bin/findweather/hdfForecast?query=37.954%2C-121.945&sp=KCACONCO37 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh-O Posted November 7, 2014 Report Share Posted November 7, 2014 when I get a chance I'll post a couple of pics Quote Carlsbad, California Zone 10 B on the hill (402 ft. elevation) Sunset zone 24 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JasonD Posted November 12, 2014 Report Share Posted November 12, 2014 Brahea moorei does well in shade, too. Its upright flowerstalks are very pretty. The tops of the leaves are shiny and tend toward green with waxy-white edging, while the undersides are waxy-pale-grey. The leaf segments are soft, but not really pendulous. The petioles are unarmed. It looks a lot like a trunkless Coccothrinax. Some say they'll survive temperatures as low as 15F or 10F. 2 Quote Jason Dewees Inner Sunset District San Francisco, California Sunset zone 17 USDA zone 10a 21 inches / 530mm annual rainfall, mostly October to April Humidity averages 60 to 85 percent year-round. Summer: 67F/55F | 19C/12C Winter: 56F/44F | 13C/6C 40-year extremes: 96F/26F | 35.5C/-3.8C Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Silent Seed Posted November 12, 2014 Author Report Share Posted November 12, 2014 Super info - thanks! The seeds arrived today - so excited. Do you recommend direct sowing, or baggies, or moss, or ? Thanks! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gtlevine Posted November 17, 2014 Report Share Posted November 17, 2014 Here is my Moorei in Flower. Its a very slow palm but well worth the wait. This one is about ten years old from a two gallon plant and super colorful now. 3 Quote Rock Ridge RanchSouth Escondido5 miles ENE Rancho Bernardo33.06N 117W, Elevation 971 Feet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Silent Seed Posted November 17, 2014 Author Report Share Posted November 17, 2014 That's purty! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghar41 Posted November 18, 2014 Report Share Posted November 18, 2014 Glenn, here in Modesto has several... very nice looking palms. This is a really great palm for my climate. No spines, stays low and really beautiful. Plus they look different in different amounts of sun. This first one just threw its first flower stalk this year. B mooreii in shady, filtered sun location. 2 Quote Glenn Modesto, California Sunset Zone 14 USDA 9b Low Temp. 19F/-7C 12-20-1990 High Temp. 111F/43C 07-23-2006 Annual Average Precipitation 13.12 inches/yr. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh-O Posted November 18, 2014 Report Share Posted November 18, 2014 Glenn, where did you buy your B. mooreii. I'm still looking to buy one somewhere Quote Carlsbad, California Zone 10 B on the hill (402 ft. elevation) Sunset zone 24 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghar41 Posted November 19, 2014 Report Share Posted November 19, 2014 Glenn, where did you buy your B. mooreii. I'm still looking to buy one somewhere I purchased some from Cistus Nursery in Portland, OR and grew many by seed purchased from Rarepalmseed, both many years ago. 1 Quote Glenn Modesto, California Sunset Zone 14 USDA 9b Low Temp. 19F/-7C 12-20-1990 High Temp. 111F/43C 07-23-2006 Annual Average Precipitation 13.12 inches/yr. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh-O Posted November 20, 2014 Report Share Posted November 20, 2014 Thanks Glenn for the info. Quote Carlsbad, California Zone 10 B on the hill (402 ft. elevation) Sunset zone 24 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben in Norcal Posted November 20, 2014 Report Share Posted November 20, 2014 Josh, Patric Schafer currently has 1g seedlings. Quote Ben RogersOn the border of Concord & Clayton in the East Bay hills - Elev 387 ft 37.95 °N, 121.94 °W My back yard weather station: http://www.wunderground.com/cgi-bin/findweather/hdfForecast?query=37.954%2C-121.945&sp=KCACONCO37 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt N- Dallas Posted November 20, 2014 Report Share Posted November 20, 2014 Moorei is one of the best braheas for N, central Texas and temperate climates as they do well in shade and part sun. They are also incredibly cold Hardy as mine and others survived 14* lows and temps below 32* for 96 hours in 2011. I have grown many from seed and find them easy to germinate and grow- just slow. From seedlings - the 'quickest' I've had them progress to silver leaf undersides is six years (under optimal conditions). One of my favorites! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Silent Seed Posted November 20, 2014 Author Report Share Posted November 20, 2014 How much are those 1g plants? 6 years? I guess I'm in for a wait It'd be nice to get one to enjoy, while these seeds take their time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben in Norcal Posted November 20, 2014 Report Share Posted November 20, 2014 You'd need to check with Patric on pricing. I want to say around $50 but I can't really remember - got mine last spring. I was talking to him recently though and he did say that he still has some, perhaps on the smaller side. Quote Ben RogersOn the border of Concord & Clayton in the East Bay hills - Elev 387 ft 37.95 °N, 121.94 °W My back yard weather station: http://www.wunderground.com/cgi-bin/findweather/hdfForecast?query=37.954%2C-121.945&sp=KCACONCO37 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tropicdoc Posted November 20, 2014 Report Share Posted November 20, 2014 Gotta ask, what's the palm behind the moorei in post #32. Is that a cliff date palm? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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