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Rough day today, but finally eliminated the eyesore that used to be a beautiful queen. I tried to cut it down into smaller sections but the electric chainsaw was not up to the challenge. Had to do it the old fashioned way using hand tools and ancient Egyptian secrets.post-97-0-26149600-1403482884_thumb.jpgpost-97-0-42279700-1403482932_thumb.jpgpost-97-0-07853500-1403482999_thumb.jpgpost-97-0-45292000-1403483055_thumb.jpgpost-97-0-69070700-1403483103_thumb.jpg

David Simms zone 9a on Highway 30a

200 steps from the Gulf in NW Florida

30 ft. elevation and sandy soil

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Her highness was replaced by one of Eric's Mules. Welcome to your new home Muley.post-97-0-47251000-1403483356_thumb.jpgpost-97-0-97651600-1403483408_thumb.jpg

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David Simms zone 9a on Highway 30a

200 steps from the Gulf in NW Florida

30 ft. elevation and sandy soil

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Nearby the T. princeps, R. multifida (needs fert), and ponytail that barely survived the Polar Vortex looked over their new neighbor with suspicion.post-97-0-80675500-1403483876_thumb.jpgpost-97-0-16288800-1403483932_thumb.jpgpost-97-0-28103500-1403483982_thumb.jpg

David Simms zone 9a on Highway 30a

200 steps from the Gulf in NW Florida

30 ft. elevation and sandy soil

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Awesome, I am a Mule man for sure.

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Hey don't feel like the lone ranger. I see alot of dead ones around PC beach and SGI and folks are still ordering them. At least you went with something that will survive.

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We need to get more of the hardier queen varieties from southern Brazil and Uruguay, it gets COLD there in habitat and the queens do fine, whereas I've seen the typical box store batches get fried in the mid-twenties here in FL

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6 month growth on Eric's mule has been impressive.

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David Simms zone 9a on Highway 30a

200 steps from the Gulf in NW Florida

30 ft. elevation and sandy soil

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6 month growth on Eric's mule has been impressive.

Wow, that is super impressive growth. Share your secrets.

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That is very impressive growth. It should keep accelerating. I would never expend the energy to dig out a Queen Stump. It would take me way too long with my rocky soil.

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I cut the stump flush to the ground. As it rots, I keep throwing mulch over it until an easy dig hole remains for a future palm.

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Queen stump chunks, sliced and diced with a reciprocating saw

Coral Gables, FL 8 miles North of Fairchild USDA Zone 10B

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Looking very happy David and off to a good start.

Are you at all concerned given the canopy spread of mules that the fronds will probably be hitting your house walls and roof during windy weather and storms down there? Or are they more protected from the wind by the house? If I recall, the front of your house faces the Gulf but I'm clueless as to the general direction of your winds down there. I know when you planted the queens back there it wasn't a concern because the queens already had a lot of trunk on them and the canopy was above roof level.

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Thanks all....Keith no secret.....just mixed some palm mix soil from box store with the beach sand....tried to get it mixed up down to the mulch layer down below.....about 2ft. down.

WCG your right it is somewhat close but I put it on a sharp angle out (curve) and it is blocked by the house from the predominant winds. Hope it grows away from the house lol.....everything in this tiny yard is packed together....its either going to look really cool in 10 years or ridiculous. ..lol

David Simms zone 9a on Highway 30a

200 steps from the Gulf in NW Florida

30 ft. elevation and sandy soil

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It's going to be interesting to see how it grows. If you're lucky it will be more strictor. Nice color on it and it sure looks healthy.

Zone 9b (formerly listed as Zone 9a); Sunset 14

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happy growing David :greenthumb: Your hybrid is going to me a monster. I just love the way those mules look :drool:

Didn't Morrissey have a song about the "queen is dead" ...lol

Carlsbad, California Zone 10 B on the hill (402 ft. elevation)

Sunset zone 24

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Fantastic growth! Mules are nice palms!

Carambeí, 2nd tableland of the State Paraná , south Brazil.

Alt:1030m. Native palms: Queen, B. eriospatha, B. microspadix, Allagoptera leucocalyx , A.campestris, Geonoma schottiana, Trithrinax acanthocoma. Subtr. climate, some frosty nights. No dry season. August: driest month. Rain:1700mm

 

I am seeking for cold hardy palms!

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Hey David, how about an updated photo of the Muley for growth comparison from your earlier posts.

Queen palms are much like a boat. Your two favorite days are the day you plant and the day they get removed.

Coral Gables, FL 8 miles North of Fairchild USDA Zone 10B

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It is still growing fast.....8 ft oa?

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David Simms zone 9a on Highway 30a

200 steps from the Gulf in NW Florida

30 ft. elevation and sandy soil

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8 minutes ago, Alicehunter2000 said:

It is still growing fast.....8 ft oa?

 

This is completely not fair.

I know Mules are ridiculous in this regard, but I have palms that are 4 or 5 years old that are less than 3 feet tall...

Also, WOW!  :D

"Ph'nglui mglw'napalma Funkthulhu R'Lincolnea wgah'palm fhtagn"
"In his house at Lincoln, dread Funkthulhu plants palm trees."

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Looks good! I've got a small mule that I planted this spring. So far it's been slow but with how fast yours has grown I bet it'll pick up speed soon. 

Keith 

Palmetto, Florida (10a) and Tampa, Florida (9b/10a)

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11 hours ago, Alicehunter2000 said:

It is still growing fast.....8 ft oa?

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Dat ting be cranking Mon! :o

Coral Gables, FL 8 miles North of Fairchild USDA Zone 10B

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good bye queen, hello Mr. Mule. I think this is a better choice than any queen by far :greenthumb:

Carlsbad, California Zone 10 B on the hill (402 ft. elevation)

Sunset zone 24

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2 minutes ago, Josh-O said:

good bye queen, hello Mr. Mule. I think this is a better choice than any queen by far :greenthumb:

:greenthumb:   Did the same thing last year, but on a smaller scale.

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2 minutes ago, _Keith said:

:greenthumb:   Did the same thing last year, but on a smaller scale.

I just saw you 10,000 post. great looking muledom:drool:

Carlsbad, California Zone 10 B on the hill (402 ft. elevation)

Sunset zone 24

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Wow, congrats for that stunning palm. I'm willing to getting a mule but it's difficult to find them in Europe.

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Mules definitely are superior to both Butia and Syagrus IMO. They have great cold hardiness taking prolonged freezing /wet conditions. They grow fast. Look great. Nematode resistant. Dont require alot of fertilizer to look green and healthy. They get the best attributes of both parents. We are lucky to have hybrids readily available. It is simply the best all around  pinnate palm for 9a / 8b .....a great foundation palm.

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David Simms zone 9a on Highway 30a

200 steps from the Gulf in NW Florida

30 ft. elevation and sandy soil

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1 hour ago, Alicehunter2000 said:

Mules definitely are superior to both Butia and Syagrus IMO. They have great cold hardiness taking prolonged freezing /wet conditions. They grow fast. Look great. Nematode resistant. Dont require alot of fertilizer to look green and healthy. They get the best attributes of both parents. We are lucky to have hybrids readily available. It is simply the best all around  pinnate palm for 9a / 8b .....a great foundation palm.

I NEED to get my hands on one. Our area is desperate for some more palm alternatives. There is a small nursery up here in Niceville that was selling some good sized mules last summer. That was the first time I've seen them sold in this area. Can't remember the figures, but they seemed a little pricey.

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On ‎11‎/‎17‎/‎2015‎ ‎10‎:‎02‎:‎19‎, Zeeth said:

Looks good! I've got a small mule that I planted this spring. So far it's been slow but with how fast yours has grown I bet it'll pick up speed soon. 

Keith, Next time you are up this way stop by. I have a larger mule looking for a home.

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David

Oh yeah.

Little mule today, big mule tomorrow HUGE MULE the day after.

Queen trunks are supposed to be the best thing for making a boat dock out of. NOTHING eats them, for decades, as you no doubt well understand. I'm about to annihilate one in my yard, not looking forward to it.

 

Scott!

One of the mules I got from you is about 20 feet tall, and 18" (0.5 M) across the base; just barely trunking. My 300 pound gorilla. I got it from you, 7 years ago?

 

Keith!

Hurry on down to Scott's place and get that big mule before one of Scott's Alligators of Doom eats it . . . . :)

 

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4 hours ago, Opal92 said:

I NEED to get my hands on one. Our area is desperate for some more palm alternatives. There is a small nursery up here in Niceville that was selling some good sized mules last summer. That was the first time I've seen them sold in this area. Can't remember the figures, but they seemed a little pricey.

Some Palmtalkers have them for sale; if money's an issue, get babies, and they'll grow. Very fast! I got one by mail in a one-gallon pot that I stuck in the ground. It wants me to marry it now. . . . . :rolleyes:

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43 minutes ago, Tampa Scott said:

Keith, Next time you are up this way stop by. I have a larger mule looking for a home.

Will do! Did you ever get a chance to root some of the Hawaiian variety of the Kiwi croton? 

Keith 

Palmetto, Florida (10a) and Tampa, Florida (9b/10a)

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1 hour ago, Tampa Scott said:

Keith, The  Hawaiian Kiwi Ti is rooted for you.

whoops, i meant Ti, dunno why i said croton!

Keith 

Palmetto, Florida (10a) and Tampa, Florida (9b/10a)

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19 hours ago, Zeeth said:

whoops, i meant Ti, dunno why i said croton!

Keith - if your in the Miami area anytime in the next month, I can throw a mess of crotons in your back seat if your interested. The are all from air layers. :D

Coral Gables, FL 8 miles North of Fairchild USDA Zone 10B

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2 hours ago, Moose said:

Keith - if your in the Miami area anytime in the next month, I can throw a mess of crotons in your back seat if your interested. The are all from air layers. :D

Thanks for the offer, Moose! I was thinking about trying to make a trip sometime during the Christmas break, so I'll let you know. 

Keith 

Palmetto, Florida (10a) and Tampa, Florida (9b/10a)

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