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(ruskinPalms @ Feb. 13 2007,12:32)

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Friday night/Saturday Morning:

NWS: 36F

TWC: 36F

Accu: 38F

Wund: 37F

Not the church bingo ball thing for me, they are all pretty sure it is going to suck here  :(

Bill,

Whoa! This must be a first all FOUR within 2 degrees of each other! ???

They must have switched from watching MODELS to building MODELS (airplane,boats,cars)! :laugh:

Is it possible they actually looked at all the info at their disposal, rather than relying on a computer MODEL to TELL them  the forecast!

Or maybe they are all using the same MODEL this time!  ???

Scott

Titusville, FL

1/2 mile from the Indian River

USDA Zone COLD

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Woo Hoo!

Check out my forecast from the NWS...

A WINTER STORM WARNING REMAINS IN EFFECT UNTIL 7 AM EST

WEDNESDAY.

FREEZING RAIN...MIXED WITH SLEET AND RAIN AT TIMES WILL CONTINUE

THROUGH THE AFTERNOON. THIS WINTRY MIX WILL CHANGE TO SNOW THIS

EVENING. SIGNIFICANT ICE ACCUMULATIONS UP TO ONE HALF INCH ARE

EXPECTED WITH A STORM TOTAL OF SNOW OF 2 TO 5 INCHES.

ALONG WITH THE HEAVY WINTER PRECIPITATION WINDS WILL INCREASE

TO 30 TO 35 MPH DURING THE LATE AFTERNOON.

Gotta love the 30-35mph winds along with temperatures in the teens and ice accumulations!

Cincinnati, Ohio USA & Mindo, Ecuador

 

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(gsn @ Feb. 13 2007,13:06)

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Whoa! This must be a first all FOUR within 2 degrees of each other! ???

They must have switched from watching MODELS to building MODELS (airplane,boats,cars)! :laugh:

Is it possible they actually looked at all the info at their disposal, rather than relying on a computer MODEL to TELL them  the forecast!

Or maybe they are all using the same MODEL this time!  ???

It seems things are coming into forcus somewhat.  I hust checked the various forecasts for Friday night in 34689 and they range from----

Weatherunderground.com - 40F

Weather.com - 36F

Acuweather.com - 39F

NWS - 39F

With the way the winds are forecast to blow (or not blow), some of the usual cold pocket inland areas of Tampa are forecast for a good freeze it appears.

But, it looks like Wed and Thursday nights will range from 44-50F depending on forecast.

It also looking like there might be another blip down in the forecasts for very early next week.

Larry 

Palm Harbor, FL 10a / Ft Myers, FL 10b

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have to agree on the most part on whats going to happen friday night then again all things can change for the better

just check with the weather for my area in pinellas park

TWC      40

NWS      43

accu       45

wunder  44

it would just say the low would be 40 to 45 just hope for some clouds

and the wind keeps up from the nw we will be fine keep my fingers crossed

Matthew Albach

Pinellas Park FLorida

USDA zone 10a

sunset zone 26

heat zone   10

mostly frost free most years.

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(falcon1988 @ Feb. 13 2007,16:57)

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and the wind keeps up from the nw we will be fine keep my fingers crossed

That is always my greatest wish  :D

I am not on the water, but still apparently close enough that when the wind is coming from the NW (or even dead N) it is very notably warmer than when there is an easterly component.  I suppose this is true due to the situation of Tarpon Springs coupled with how the coastline is shaped.

Larry 

Palm Harbor, FL 10a / Ft Myers, FL 10b

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As of 945AM today....it looks like things are getting firmer for 34689...not much variance in the forecasts for Friday night/Saturday AM.  

NWS - 38F

Weatherunderground - 36F

Weather.com - 36F

Accuweather - 37F

Larry 

Palm Harbor, FL 10a / Ft Myers, FL 10b

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(Alan_Tampa @ Feb. 14 2007,11:51)

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Larry, get back under the sand, quick!

Alan

Unless the forecasts get alot worse, I think I might everything ride (including Prichardia) and see what happens.  

Since its a Friday night, I admit that I will probably chicken out and stay up late to see how things are looking just in case  :P

Larry 

Palm Harbor, FL 10a / Ft Myers, FL 10b

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(spockvr6 @ Feb. 14 2007,11:55)

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(Alan_Tampa @ Feb. 14 2007,11:51)

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Larry, get back under the sand, quick!

Alan

Unless the forecasts get alot worse, I think I might everything ride (including Prichardia) and see what happens.  

Since its a Friday night, I admit that I will probably chicken out and stay up late to see how things are looking just in case  :P

Larry,

I see tarps,sheets,quilts, rope lights,  palm socks,and propane burners in your late friday night future!  :D  

Doesn't look like cloud cover is going to interfere with their low guesses  this time? :(

I can't find any SAND for my head,  oh well shouldn't be a problem I picked a pretty high BINGO number for my Friday night low! :;):

Scott

Titusville, FL

1/2 mile from the Indian River

USDA Zone COLD

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Scott-

My plans arew none of the above!

If these palms can ride out 36-38F, then they dont belong here.  Heck, they dont even belong in Miami if thats the case!

So, I will watch things but unless it looks like something down into the 20's, I will probably do nothing (except perhaps cover 1 or 2 ultra tender palms if it looks like less than 35F).  The rest of the stuff I think will be OK.

Larry 

Palm Harbor, FL 10a / Ft Myers, FL 10b

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Larry,

Just kidding with ya! :D  I keep forgetting that you aren't even predicted to freeze over there!

But you and Ray keep saying we should be out of the woods, but alas Febuary just KEEPS coming at us  FULL bore! As I said before between last year and this year, Febuary is fast becoming my least favorite month! :angry:

Scott

Titusville, FL

1/2 mile from the Indian River

USDA Zone COLD

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(gsn @ Feb. 14 2007,12:51)

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But you and Ray keep saying we should be out of the woods, but alas Febuary just KEEPS coming at us  FULL bore!

But.....this map says we should be OK!

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Larry 

Palm Harbor, FL 10a / Ft Myers, FL 10b

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(gsn @ Feb. 14 2007,12:51)

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 I keep forgetting that you aren't even predicted to freeze over there!

The forecasts are awful close.....and seems to me the slightly higher forecasted temps are based on the assumption that the winds stay up and from the NW.  I know from past exprience, that if the winds go calm, my yard doesnt fare very well (too far from the water).

Larry 

Palm Harbor, FL 10a / Ft Myers, FL 10b

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Hi there,

After some rainy day's we get here from tomorrow, some sunny day's and a good "warm" weekend. It's going to like like the beginnen of the spring but it's still winter!

Normal average

Daytime: 6C/42.8F

Nighttime: 0C/32F

The forecast for the next day's and weekend

Thursday 15-02

Daytime: 9C/48.2F

Nighttime: 2C/35.6F

Sunny

Fryday 16-02

Daytime: 12C/53.6F

Nighttime: 2C/35.6F

Sunny

Saturday 17-02

Daytime: 12C/53.6F

Nighttime: 5C/41F

Sunny with some clouds

Sunday 18-02

Daytime: 10C/50F

Nighttime: 5C/41F

Sunny with some clouds

Monday 19-02

Daytime: 10C/50F

Nighttime: 4C/39.2F

Sunny with some clouds

Robbin

Southwest

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As of this post for 33570

Friday night/Saturday Morning:

NWS: 34F

TWC: 36F

Accu: 36F

Wund: 36F

NWS has Riverview/Brandon area to 28-29F, interior Tampa to 32-33F (excluding intrabay peninsula which looks like the upper 30's) and at my old apartment in Tampa Palms (near USF) a brutal 26F!

Parrish, FL

Zone 9B

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as of 18:13 ( 6:13pm) seems the forecast is more firm now just pray on the  NW winds

of the gulf to keep our temps up before sunrise fingers crossed ((hate winter))

TWC      40

NWS      41

accu       43

wunder  41

Matthew Albach

Pinellas Park FLorida

USDA zone 10a

sunset zone 26

heat zone   10

mostly frost free most years.

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(falcon1988 @ Feb. 14 2007,18:17)

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as of 18:13 ( 6:13pm) seems the forecast is more firm now just pray on the  NW winds

of the gulf to keep our temps up before sunrise fingers crossed ((hate winter))

TWC      40

NWS      41

accu       43

wunder  41

falcon,

If I had that forecast I wouldn't even BLINK! :P

That ain't winter ,that is down right BALMY! :;):

Larry,

I'm beginning to understand about that zip code ,and hating!  :laugh:

Scott

Titusville, FL

1/2 mile from the Indian River

USDA Zone COLD

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Robbin

Those are nice temps for winter  :cool:  I hope Europe avoids the deep freeze occurring over North America [primarily Canada/GreatLakes/Northeast].  

Also wish Florida bros dodge the bullet again [like all winter].  It's scary having so much arctic air over the nation  :o

In typical yin/yang fashion it will get quite warm in California [solace to freeze victims].

LA : 74/49

Los Angeles/Pasadena

34° 10' N   118° 18' W

Elevation: 910'/278m

January Average Hi/Lo: 69F/50F

July Average Hi/Lo: 88F/66F

Average Rainfall: 19"/48cm

USDA 11/Sunset 23

http://cdec.water.ca.gov/cgi-progs/queryF?MTW

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happ

Don't forget your friends south of the Great Lakes!

Even though winter got a late start this year, this is definitely the worst winter I've had in the last four; maybe not in terms of one brief absolute low (although as of today it hasn't frozen at my place in four winters), but in terms of both daytime and nighttime lows and the duration of cold temperatures.  It seems like we've had 10 nights @ 33F and 10 days that didn't get over 40 this year.  Today in Houston 47 felt like 27 with the 25mph wind.  We'll flirt with freezing tonight. Tomorrow night, they're saying 27; I'm afraid my good 'ol Urban Heat Island won't even save me from a hard freeze this time, and, probably of many hours duration. We won't get our usual sunrise bail-out.  At least anecdotally, we've had the most cold air for the longest number of consecutive days in recent memory.  My most reliable barometer is a large Philodendron sagittafolium that's climbing 15' up into my pecan tree.  In the last 4-5 years, I lost maybe 1/3 of the leaves in the worst winter.  This year, the leaves are 95% crispy dead.  I gotta start moving the heavy stuff in pots tomorrow evening. Sh*t.

Steve

USDA Zone 9a/b, AHS Heat Zone 9, Sunset Zone 28

49'/14m above sea level, 25mi/40km to Galveston Bay

Long-term average rainfall 47.84"/1215mm

Near-term (7yr) average rainfall 55.44"/1410mm

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Wow, Steve  :(

It was the duration of the freeze that devastated the orchards and gardens in California last month.  It is the wide/erratic swings in weather conditions that science claim is due to global warming. Ironic during events that are anything but "warm."  :o

Los Angeles/Pasadena

34° 10' N   118° 18' W

Elevation: 910'/278m

January Average Hi/Lo: 69F/50F

July Average Hi/Lo: 88F/66F

Average Rainfall: 19"/48cm

USDA 11/Sunset 23

http://cdec.water.ca.gov/cgi-progs/queryF?MTW

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(ruskinPalms @ Feb. 14 2007,17:10)

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NWS has Riverview/Brandon area to 28-29F, interior Tampa to 32-33F (excluding intrabay peninsula which looks like the upper 30's) and at my old apartment in Tampa Palms (near USF) a brutal 26F!

And points to the north such as Brooksville......20F!

Larry 

Palm Harbor, FL 10a / Ft Myers, FL 10b

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(gsn @ Feb. 14 2007,19:22)

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Larry,

I'm beginning to understand about that zip code ,and hating!  :laugh:

From the warmest to coldest areas of Pinellas, there are many times roughly TWO zones differential on cold nights!

The warmest areas are always in south Pinellas, especially near downtown St. Pete (that blasted 33701 zip code again).  If there is no wind, then that area can sometimes run close to 10F warmer than areas inland but literally only a few miles away.  Its almost unbelievable.  But, as I have mentioned before, a quick drive through the area makes one not doubt the weather station readings.

Larry 

Palm Harbor, FL 10a / Ft Myers, FL 10b

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(ruskinPalms @ Feb. 14 2007,17:10)

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As of this post for 33570

Friday night/Saturday Morning:

NWS: 34F

TWC: 36F

Accu: 36F

Wund: 36F

Right with you Bill.

For 34689 as of 10PM tonight----

NWS: 36F

TWC: 35F

Accu: 37F

Wund: 34F

So, there is still consistency to some degree.  Unless something changes, then this will certainly be the coldest night of the winter thus far in "Jackass Flats North".

Yes....I am stealing Rusty's moniker, but with my recent steaming of various palms, I feel as though the jackass descriptor is quite accurate.

Larry 

Palm Harbor, FL 10a / Ft Myers, FL 10b

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happ

I always thought that irony had to do with the unexpected juxtaposition of "universally assumed" reality with "real" reality.  In my case they are one in the same; in fact, I believe that my personal temperature experience on this particular day has the effect of establishing one of many proofs of the coming ice age ;-)

Steve

USDA Zone 9a/b, AHS Heat Zone 9, Sunset Zone 28

49'/14m above sea level, 25mi/40km to Galveston Bay

Long-term average rainfall 47.84"/1215mm

Near-term (7yr) average rainfall 55.44"/1410mm

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As of 11:30 pm here in Titusville (32780)

Still going DOWN!

Friday night/Saturday morning

NWS  -  31

ACCU -  34

TWC  -  34

Wund-  30

Scott

Titusville, FL

1/2 mile from the Indian River

USDA Zone COLD

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(happ @ Feb. 14 2007,19:49)

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Robbin

Those are nice temps for winter  :cool:  I hope Europe avoids the deep freeze occurring over North America [primarily Canada/GreatLakes/Northeast].  

Also wish Florida bros dodge the bullet again [like all winter].  It's scary having so much arctic air over the nation  :o

In typical yin/yang fashion it will get quite warm in California [solace to freeze victims].

LA : 74/49

Happ,

You're right, that are very good tempetures for the winter for here.

The cold for Europe? I don't know i have read some messages that maybe in the end of next week very russian cold came down ... if that's come true we gonna get a cold start of March. But a good thing is, that maps that showing that cold, that we have seen already a couple times this winter, but every time the "warm" option wins.

Maybe i got the 14-15C (57.2-59F) this saturday, and sunny ... so i go first going to work in tha garden in the sun again, and after that i will look what the cold is going to do!  :cool:

I hope for the guys on the places where's is cold now, warm up again .. ! And the places where it's still nice, don't get the cold!

Robbin

Southwest

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The forecasts have improved slightly for 34689 as of 630AM today.  It looks like they have intensified the NW winds (which helps over here).

NWS: 38F

TWC: 36F

Accu: 39F

Wund: 34F

Maybe just maybe all the damage I will see this week will be self inflicted. LOL.

Larry 

Palm Harbor, FL 10a / Ft Myers, FL 10b

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The forecasts for 34689 have changed a little bit more for the better.

NWS: 38F

TWC: 36F

Accu: 39F

Wund: 36F

Larry 

Palm Harbor, FL 10a / Ft Myers, FL 10b

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Well one would have thought they would revise the forecast UPWARD!

After this discussionout of the NWS in melbourne as of 2:30 PM.

FRIDAY NIGHT AND SATURDAY...OVER THE MID MISSISSIPPI AND OHIO

RIVER VALLEYS A DIGGING SHORT WAVE ROTATING AROUND THE BASE OF THE

DEEP LOW LOCATED OVER THE CANADIAN MARITIMES HELPS TO PUSH THE

SURFACE HIGH ACROSS THE GULF COAST STATES AND INTO THE ATLANTIC.

850MB TEMPERATURES LOOK WARMER THAN YESTERDAYS/WEDNESDAY 12Z RUN

WITH WITH THE 0 DEGREE LINE RETREATING NORTHWARD FROM AROUND A

SOUTHERN ORANGE AND NORTH BREVARD COUNTY LINE TO SOUTHERN GEORGIA

BY 12Z SATURDAY MORNING. CLEAR SKIES AND DIMINISHING WINDS WILL

ALLOW RADIATIONAL COOLING TO QUICKLY DROP ALREADY COOL FRIDAY

AFTERNOON HIGHS...MID 50S- LOW/MID 60S...TO THE LOW AND MID 40S

NORTHERN BREVARD...COASTAL VOLUSIA AND INTERIOR SECTIONS AND THE

MID TO UPPER 40S ALONG THE COAST SOUTH BREVARD TO MARTIN COUNTY.

TEMPERATURES SHOULD FALL MORE SLOWLY AFTER MIDNIGHT AND BE AROUND

FREEZING OR BELOW FREEZING INTERIOR AND NORTHERN COASTAL AREAS BY

4AM SATURDAY MORNING. STRONGER WINDS ALONG THE COAST WILL KEEP

TEMPERATURES A COUPLE OF DEGREES WARMER. PLAN TO ISSUE A FREEZE

WATCH AFTER MIDNIGHT FRIDAY FOR THE INTERIOR AND NORTHERN COASTAL

SECTIONS AND WORD THE ZONES FROM THE CAPE SOUTH TO MENTION NEAR

FREEZING TEMPERATURE AWAY FROM THE IMMEDIATE COAST. THE ONLY "FLY

IN THE SO CALLED OINTMENT" WOULD BE A THICK CIRROSTRATUS SHIELD

ASSOCIATED WITH THE RIGHT REAR QUADRANT OF A VERY STRONG...125

KNOT PLUS...250MB JET STREAM THAT IS FORECAST TO SLOWLY DROP

SOUTHWARD OVER THE STATE FRIDAY NIGHT AND DURING THE DAY SATURDAY.

THE THICK CIRROSTRATUS SHIELD WOULD TEND TO SLOW DOWN ANY

RADIATIONAL COOLING TAKING PLACE DURING THE EVENING AND POSSIBLY

KEEP TEMPERATURES A COUPLE OF DEGREES WARMER AFTER MIDNIGHT. AFTER

A COLD START TO SATURDAY CLEAR TO MOSTLY CLEAR SKIES WILL ALLOW

TEMPERATURES TO REACH THE LOW AND MID 60S IN THE AFTERNOON.

TEMPERATURES WOULD BE HIGHER BUT A NORTHWESTERLY WIND WILL HELP TO

SLOW DOWN DAY TIME HEATING.

Well are the clouds going to save us again or not?  ???

Does the left hand know what the right hand is doing??

WEATHERMEN! :angry:

Scott

Titusville, FL

1/2 mile from the Indian River

USDA Zone COLD

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As of this post for 33570

Friday night/Saturday Morning:

NWS: 31F :(

TWC: 37F

Accu: 36F

Wund: 37F

Unfortunatley, I tend to put more stock in what the NWS says. This is the largest spread I have seen so far. All depenedent on NW winds now at this point. Maybe a mention of some high clouds again? Anyway, I think my baby cocos are about to throw in the towel as it has been a very cool, very damp end to winter. It has been crappy here since the end of January with really no warmups lasting more than a day or two. Lots of cold rain as well. The cocos are pretty yellowed  out and spotty...Hmm...what to plant in their place?

Parrish, FL

Zone 9B

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Hi ...

Sorry to see a lot of low temps ... but here it was today spring look a like! I have got a tempeture from 15,1C/59F ... in the beginning of the afternoon the southeast have got a couple hours a fohnwind ... so they recorded there 17C/62,6F. But in the later afternoon it was cooling of there but where i live not :)

But oke oke it's still winter and normal average for the day is 6C/42.8F! But today was good with a lot of sun!

Robbin

Southwest

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This card shows still the warm south winds for us ... but cold is close ... i hope the warm winds still winning ... let's go for the spring! :cool:

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Southwest

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10 day forecast, me likey mid 70s:

Sun

Feb 18  Mostly Sunny 65°/39° 0 %

Mon

Feb 19  Partly Cloudy / Wind 69°/56° 10 %

Tue

Feb 20  AM Showers 78°/53° 30 %

Wed

Feb 21  Isolated T-Storms 73°/51° 30 %

Thu

Feb 22  Few Showers 75°/60° 30 %

Fri

Feb 23  Partly Cloudy 75°/55° 10 %

Sat

Feb 24  Few Showers 75°/45° 30 %

Sun

Feb 25  Partly Cloudy 70°/51° 10 %

Mon

Feb 26  Partly Cloudy 73°/47°

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Big cool down today and very windy as a cold front moves in tonight.  Rain chances don't appear promising since it is a storm out of the Gulf of Alaska.  It should stay cloudy with possible showers for several more days.

LA : 76/60

Los Angeles/Pasadena

34° 10' N   118° 18' W

Elevation: 910'/278m

January Average Hi/Lo: 69F/50F

July Average Hi/Lo: 88F/66F

Average Rainfall: 19"/48cm

USDA 11/Sunset 23

http://cdec.water.ca.gov/cgi-progs/queryF?MTW

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The russian cold, came not down here  :D  

It's gonna be some day's colder but no frost ... at the end of the weak we go up again. We can almost closed the winter book for here ... :D Then i have so mild winter!

Robbin

Southwest

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We are also mild by UK standards.  The ten day outlook is very settled with all daytime temperatures within 9-11°C/48-52°F and all night time temperatures within 5-7°C/41-45°F.  Showers forecast every day.

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Corey Lucas-Divers

Dorset, UK

Ave Jul High 72F/22C (91F/33C Max)

Ave Jul Low 52F/11C (45F/7C Min)

Ave Jan High 46F/8C (59F/15C Max)

Ave Jan Low 34F/1C (21F/-6C Min)

Ave Rain 736mm pa

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Glad Europe has been spared the weather experienced over much of the U.S.  Someone recently posted photos of beautiful palms growing in northern Europe; a mild winter certainly helps keep the palm trees looking great.  Conditions continue to moderate across the American continent but March can wreak havoc with unwelcome surprises.

I look forward to vacationing in Miami next week especially since the chilly weather appears to be over, I hope  :o

A nice change occurred overnight as a storm moved into California.  A strong marine push last night was delightful as humidity rose & light showers wet down the parched earth.  Will be cool and cloudy for a few days with possibly more showers  :P

Los Angeles/Pasadena

34° 10' N   118° 18' W

Elevation: 910'/278m

January Average Hi/Lo: 69F/50F

July Average Hi/Lo: 88F/66F

Average Rainfall: 19"/48cm

USDA 11/Sunset 23

http://cdec.water.ca.gov/cgi-progs/queryF?MTW

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