bronxboynyc71 Posted May 21, 2013 Report Share Posted May 21, 2013 Was inspecting my trachys today. Noticed some growth comming out of trunk. I'm guessing there flower buds. Was not expecting it to flower so soon. Planted them in march. I'm hoping this is a sign of health!!! Also does this mean its a female tree? I hope everyone has a great growing season. Bobby 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
palmnut-fry Posted May 21, 2013 Report Share Posted May 21, 2013 Yeah, good sign! My GOD a windmill in Bronx?! You're going to have to build a mighty tall enclosure someday, as once established, these hairy guys get quite tall! But, suppose it's worth it, not sure if earth friendly, but one palm ain't gonna 'break the bank'! I planted one of these at my new house in the front entryway 20 years ago, about the same size. It's 25 feet tall now, quite a bit higher then the roof, so I have to get an extension ladder to reach the dead leaves and spent inflorescences. They look all messy once they poop out. I have two, and the one in my back yard must be a female as every few years they get pollinated and make the prettiest blue seeds! Made a beautiful dried arrangement out of them. But surely you must be one of the very few that far North to have, or is Home Depot selling these up there now, too?! It still a Zone 5 there, so be prepared to wrap it up and eventually build box around, but not sure if you could keep warm enough in most, even normal, winters there as it is too damp, cold and windy for optimum growth. good luck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bronxboynyc71 Posted May 22, 2013 Author Report Share Posted May 22, 2013 Actually, according to the new hardiness zone map i am borderline 7b! Very sceptical myself. The Bronx used to be rated 6. Still plan on treating the palms as though I'm in zone 6. Going to build mini greenhouses around them. The key is to keep them dry, the cold really don't bother them. Good luck enjoy your summer. Robert Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
palmnut-fry Posted May 23, 2013 Report Share Posted May 23, 2013 Yeah, I forgot to look at the latest USDA map, Robert!~ Y'all have been upgraded! I remember a TV show talking about global warming back in the 80's that said, are you ready?, 'that if present weather warming persists, that palm trees might be grown as far as NYC'! I remember thinking back then, "NYC? No way!" But, here you are (and apparently a few others). Trachycarpus I noted on trips to England visiting my mom, and they grow in Ireland as well, I've since read. What next, Iceland? Nothing more odd, though, then to picture an old episode of "Cagney & Lacey" hiding from a gunman behind a shaggy windmill palm! LOL But, there used to be nay sayers about growing palms even in Zone 8B Dallas, which is ridiculous and I've fought this notion for years and you look around now and see palms in every neighborhood, almost. Many of the Mexican populations that have moved here since the 70's automatically plant them, and of course, the rich by their fancy pools. But this would've been rare 50 years ago. Mostly just damn Crepe Myrtles and live oaks back then, along with the weed of the bush world, red-tip photinia! ARGGGGG! Here's to a good summer, hope not too dry and hot like the last! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigD Posted May 23, 2013 Report Share Posted May 23, 2013 Yeah, I forgot to look at the latest USDA map, Robert!~ Y'all have been upgraded! I remember a TV show talking about global warming back in the 80's that said, are you ready?, 'that if present weather warming persists, that palm trees might be grown as far as NYC'! I remember thinking back then, "NYC? No way!" But, here you are (and apparently a few others). Trachycarpus I noted on trips to England visiting my mom, and they grow in Ireland as well, I've since read. What next, Iceland? Nothing more odd, though, then to picture an old episode of "Cagney & Lacey" hiding from a gunman behind a shaggy windmill palm! LOL But, there used to be nay sayers about growing palms even in Zone 8B Dallas, which is ridiculous and I've fought this notion for years and you look around now and see palms in every neighborhood, almost. Many of the Mexican populations that have moved here since the 70's automatically plant them, and of course, the rich by their fancy pools. But this would've been rare 50 years ago. Mostly just damn Crepe Myrtles and live oaks back then, along with the weed of the bush world, red-tip photinia! ARGGGGG! Here's to a good summer, hope not too dry and hot like the last! All true.. I love how Dallas has become a Palmy city over the last decade! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bronxboynyc71 Posted May 24, 2013 Author Report Share Posted May 24, 2013 Going to need lots of good advice, come December. Plan on building mini green houses for my trachys & musa bajoo. Not to worried about the cold this winter, I'm more concerned about keeping them dry. Got some good ideas from a post by Wisconsin grower. Looks like I'm gunna be making a trip to the home depot this winter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benjamin D. Posted May 26, 2013 Report Share Posted May 26, 2013 Oh those photinias!!! They just take over! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestCoastGal Posted May 28, 2013 Report Share Posted May 28, 2013 That's cool. It looks very happy. Kind of hard to tell from the photo but are the flowers greenish? Look more yellow to me. If yellow than male. Zone 9b (formerly listed as Zone 9a); Sunset 14 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestCoastGal Posted May 28, 2013 Report Share Posted May 28, 2013 And yes, the USDA map was updated last year maybe. There was a lot of talk on here about how a number of people, myself included, found themselves in a warmer zone. I'm sticking with the old one too. Rather not lose palms I love when that cold snap really hits. Zone 9b (formerly listed as Zone 9a); Sunset 14 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stator Posted June 3, 2013 Report Share Posted June 3, 2013 Yeah, good sign! My GOD a windmill in Bronx?! You're going to have to build a mighty tall enclosure someday, as once established, these hairy guys get quite tall! But, suppose it's worth it, not sure if earth friendly, but one palm ain't gonna 'break the bank'! I planted one of these at my new house in the front entryway 20 years ago, about the same size. It's 25 feet tall now, quite a bit higher then the roof, so I have to get an extension ladder to reach the dead leaves and spent inflorescences. They look all messy once they poop out. I have two, and the one in my back yard must be a female as every few years they get pollinated and make the prettiest blue seeds! Made a beautiful dried arrangement out of them. But surely you must be one of the very few that far North to have, or is Home Depot selling these up there now, too?! It still a Zone 5 there, so be prepared to wrap it up and eventually build box around, but not sure if you could keep warm enough in most, even normal, winters there as it is too damp, cold and windy for optimum growth. good luck I live in southern ontario, canada I have two in the ground and have been since 2006, my non hybrid waggie was seed grown in Vancouver and my fortunei was seed grown in Montreal. I build very light enclosures made from construction foam and they will stay in the enclosures for only 2 months. They are 6 foot tall now and are thriving, planted in full sun with cow manure for soil with plenty of fertilizer. I also have Musa basjoo bananas growing and are 13 foot tall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GREENHAND Posted June 3, 2013 Report Share Posted June 3, 2013 Yeah, I forgot to look at the latest USDA map, Robert!~ Y'all have been upgraded! I remember a TV show talking about global warming back in the 80's that said, are you ready?, 'that if present weather warming persists, that palm trees might be grown as far as NYC'! I remember thinking back then, "NYC? No way!" But, here you are (and apparently a few others). Trachycarpus I noted on trips to England visiting my mom, and they grow in Ireland as well, I've since read. What next, Iceland? Nothing more odd, though, then to picture an old episode of "Cagney & Lacey" hiding from a gunman behind a shaggy windmill palm! LOL But, there used to be nay sayers about growing palms even in Zone 8B Dallas, which is ridiculous and I've fought this notion for years and you look around now and see palms in every neighborhood, almost. Many of the Mexican populations that have moved here since the 70's automatically plant them, and of course, the rich by their fancy pools. But this would've been rare 50 years ago. Mostly just damn Crepe Myrtles and live oaks back then, along with the weed of the bush world, red-tip photinia! ARGGGGG! Here's to a good summer, hope not too dry and hot like the last! All true.. I love how Dallas has become a Palmy city over the last decade! Here is a pict of my Dallas back yard. your right it is becoming palmy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestCoastGal Posted June 15, 2013 Report Share Posted June 15, 2013 Bronxboynyc, do you have any recent photos of your inflorescence? I'm curious to see if you've got a male or female. Zone 9b (formerly listed as Zone 9a); Sunset 14 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stator Posted June 16, 2013 Report Share Posted June 16, 2013 When or at what height will the fortunei or wagnerianus flower? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cedric Posted June 18, 2013 Report Share Posted June 18, 2013 This is wonderful to see a palm in The Bronx! I'm reckoning Chamearops humilis would grow too in this case. It also dislikes wet humid roots in winter, so impeccable drainage and protection from wet around the root zone in winter might be enough. Cerdic Non omnis moriar (Horace) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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