Kailua_Krish Posted February 28, 2013 Report Share Posted February 28, 2013 So we all have those tropical palms we've seen and had to have, but sadly they won't survive your freezes. What do you use instead? Here are some of mine: Coconut- Mule palm Royal- Queen palm Cocothrinax/Thrinax- Chamaerops/Trachycarpus What others can you think of? -Krishna Quote -Krishna Kailua, Oahu HI. Near the beach but dry! Still have a garden in Zone 9a Inland North Central Florida (Ocala) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JakeK Posted February 28, 2013 Report Share Posted February 28, 2013 For my area, in order to get a more tropical look we have to use plants like Musa basjoo, Yucca thompsonsiana x rostrata, Yucca rostrata, Cannas, ginger, castor oil plant, Aucuba, etc. Quote Cincinnati, Ohio USA & Mindo, Ecuador Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sonoranfans Posted February 28, 2013 Report Share Posted February 28, 2013 more cocoid hybrids: butjubaea, butia x parajubaea, and yes even syagrus x jubaea is a gorgeous tropical looking palm. all should be good to 8b and substitute for cocos or royals... I like these for my yard without needing their cold hardiness... Quote Formerly in Gilbert AZ, zone 9a/9b. Now in Palmetto, Florida Zone 9b/10a?? Tom Blank Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kailua_Krish Posted March 1, 2013 Author Report Share Posted March 1, 2013 Sabal causiarum for Borassus? Quote -Krishna Kailua, Oahu HI. Near the beach but dry! Still have a garden in Zone 9a Inland North Central Florida (Ocala) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kailua_Krish Posted March 1, 2013 Author Report Share Posted March 1, 2013 Butia for some of the interesting Ravenea? Quote -Krishna Kailua, Oahu HI. Near the beach but dry! Still have a garden in Zone 9a Inland North Central Florida (Ocala) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palmə häl′ik Posted March 1, 2013 Report Share Posted March 1, 2013 Somebody needs to throw a big B.alfredii in full frost conditions, cuz I know seedlings can't take it, so those aren't as cold hardy as the hype leads everyone to believe.... I lost many, many lil uns a few years back... - Ray. Quote Brandon, FL 27.95°N 82.28°W (Elev. 62 ft) Zone9 w/ canopy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palmə häl′ik Posted March 1, 2013 Report Share Posted March 1, 2013 I wish they were tho, the coco look is there yakno... Quote Brandon, FL 27.95°N 82.28°W (Elev. 62 ft) Zone9 w/ canopy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sonoranfans Posted March 1, 2013 Report Share Posted March 1, 2013 Sabal causiarum for Borassus? yes, causiarum, the grandest sabal of them all! A magnificent palm in any zone... probably good to zone 8a Quote Formerly in Gilbert AZ, zone 9a/9b. Now in Palmetto, Florida Zone 9b/10a?? Tom Blank Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kailua_Krish Posted March 1, 2013 Author Report Share Posted March 1, 2013 They have a Causiarum in the Atlanta botanical garden, don't they? -Krishna Quote -Krishna Kailua, Oahu HI. Near the beach but dry! Still have a garden in Zone 9a Inland North Central Florida (Ocala) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sonoranfans Posted March 6, 2013 Report Share Posted March 6, 2013 Somebody needs to throw a big B.alfredii in full frost conditions, cuz I know seedlings can't take it, so those aren't as cold hardy as the hype leads everyone to believe....I lost many, many lil uns a few years back...- Ray.Ray,I think 2010 did them in eh? If only they had made it past a few winters before they got that one. My alfredii(3) are doing great, one was out in the open and completely defoliated with 2 hard frosts in 2010. It came back nicely, sits at 5'+ overall today.. But alfredii are needing more data to understand their cold hardiness. the best coconut substitue Ive seen is butia x parajubaea cocoides... a very tropical looking palm. Quote Formerly in Gilbert AZ, zone 9a/9b. Now in Palmetto, Florida Zone 9b/10a?? Tom Blank Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palmə häl′ik Posted March 6, 2013 Report Share Posted March 6, 2013 YesSir. The way I see it B.alfrediis a z10 palm. If it can't take frost from the get go, its not "cold hardy". Quote Brandon, FL 27.95°N 82.28°W (Elev. 62 ft) Zone9 w/ canopy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kailua_Krish Posted March 6, 2013 Author Report Share Posted March 6, 2013 My alfrediis do well but are under heavy canopy. -Krishna Quote -Krishna Kailua, Oahu HI. Near the beach but dry! Still have a garden in Zone 9a Inland North Central Florida (Ocala) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palmə häl′ik Posted March 6, 2013 Report Share Posted March 6, 2013 Right. But the real test is to put em out in the open. Unprotected, yaknow. Theres plenty of palms that will make it under canopy. Quote Brandon, FL 27.95°N 82.28°W (Elev. 62 ft) Zone9 w/ canopy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sonoranfans Posted March 7, 2013 Report Share Posted March 7, 2013 YesSir.The way I see it B.alfrediis a z10 palm.If it can't take frost from the get go, its not "cold hardy".then take sabal domingensis off the list, cant take frost as a strapper... Come to think of it that would take a whole bunch of palms off the zone 9b list. Quote Formerly in Gilbert AZ, zone 9a/9b. Now in Palmetto, Florida Zone 9b/10a?? Tom Blank Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kailua_Krish Posted March 7, 2013 Author Report Share Posted March 7, 2013 Same for many of the colder zones. Protection from tress and buildings is key. -Krishna Quote -Krishna Kailua, Oahu HI. Near the beach but dry! Still have a garden in Zone 9a Inland North Central Florida (Ocala) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kailua_Krish Posted March 10, 2013 Author Report Share Posted March 10, 2013 Just got a Sabal uresana from the SFPS sale at Montgomery. Good replacement for a bizmarkia? I've heard of them doing well up in Augusta and such! -Krishna Quote -Krishna Kailua, Oahu HI. Near the beach but dry! Still have a garden in Zone 9a Inland North Central Florida (Ocala) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gallop Posted March 10, 2013 Report Share Posted March 10, 2013 Krishna, what size S uresana did you get? I wonder if anyone has any larger plants for sale? I've saw a couple 15gals available a couple years back. Quote Paul Gallop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kailua_Krish Posted March 10, 2013 Author Report Share Posted March 10, 2013 (edited) 5 gallon from Faith Bishock, she may have larger sizes though, i didnt ask. There was a larger one from another seller but it didn't have the blue coloring and looked suspiciously like another sabal species. -Krishna Edited March 10, 2013 by krishnaraoji88 Quote -Krishna Kailua, Oahu HI. Near the beach but dry! Still have a garden in Zone 9a Inland North Central Florida (Ocala) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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