Gonzer Posted January 10, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 10, 2013 Nothing makes me more annoyed than wind and cold.. thats why I left Colorado... That farthest western state appeals more and more during times like this.. I know they've got ranches there Bill but container ranches? BTW, the farthest western state's still Alaska last time I looked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jastin Posted January 10, 2013 Report Share Posted January 10, 2013 Nothing makes me more annoyed than wind and cold.. thats why I left Colorado... That farthest western state appeals more and more during times like this.. I know they've got ranches there Bill but container ranches? BTW, the farthest western state's still Alaska last time I looked. I had a co-worker swear that Alaska was right next to Hawaii because of a map like this. Once we convinced her she called her mom and her mom couldn't believe it! Grateful to have what I have, Les amis de mes amis sont mes amis! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gonzer Posted January 10, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 10, 2013 Nothing makes me more annoyed than wind and cold.. thats why I left Colorado... That farthest western state appeals more and more during times like this.. I know they've got ranches there Bill but container ranches? BTW, the farthest western state's still Alaska last time I looked. I had a co-worker swear that Alaska was right next to Hawaii because of a map like this. Once we convinced her she called her mom and her mom couldn't believe it! THAT'S good! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hammer Posted January 11, 2013 Report Share Posted January 11, 2013 Wow!!! What part of Alaska, Jastin? I have family up there. They love it. I think they are nuts! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moose Posted January 11, 2013 Report Share Posted January 11, 2013 Nothing makes me more annoyed than wind and cold.. thats why I left Colorado... That farthest western state appeals more and more during times like this.. Come back home to Florida where you belong then We have AC's here too that need you help Coral Gables, FL 8 miles North of Fairchild USDA Zone 10B Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulgila Posted January 11, 2013 Report Share Posted January 11, 2013 Nothing makes me more annoyed than wind and cold.. thats why I left Colorado... That farthest western state appeals more and more during times like this.. I know they've got ranches there Bill but container ranches? BTW, the farthest western state's still Alaska last time I looked. I had a co-worker swear that Alaska was right next to Hawaii because of a map like this. Once we convinced her she called her mom and her mom couldn't believe it! this is why i love palmtalk. the "prince of snarkness." still "warning-free." san diego,california,left coast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevetoad Posted January 11, 2013 Report Share Posted January 11, 2013 I come for the palms but I stay for the conversation "it's not dead it's sleeping" Santee ca, zone10a/9b 18 miles from the ocean avg. winter 68/40.avg summer 88/64.records 113/25 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BS Man about Palms Posted January 11, 2013 Report Share Posted January 11, 2013 I ignored Alaska because I was so cold and hunkered down I couldn't lift my head to recognize Alaska as part of the union. or would you rather believe I left out the word "south".. ? On a side note, I am amazed how many people do not realize how many states there are in the U S of A. Zone 10a at best after 2007 AND 2013, on SW facing hill, 1 1/2 miles from coast in Oceanside, CA. 30-98 degrees, and 45-80deg. about 95% of the time. "The great workman of nature is time." , "Genius is nothing but a great aptitude for patience." -George-Louis Leclerc de Buffon- I do some experiments and learning in my garden with palms so you don't have to experience the pain! Look at my old threads to find various observations and tips! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevetoad Posted January 11, 2013 Report Share Posted January 11, 2013 I ignored Alaska because I was so cold and hunkered down I couldn't lift my head to recognize Alaska as part of the union. or would you rather believe I left out the word "south".. ? On a side note, I am amazed how many people do not realize how many states there are in the U S of A. Pffff everyone knows there's 12 "it's not dead it's sleeping" Santee ca, zone10a/9b 18 miles from the ocean avg. winter 68/40.avg summer 88/64.records 113/25 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jastin Posted January 11, 2013 Report Share Posted January 11, 2013 Wow!!! What part of Alaska, Jastin? I have family up there. They love it. I think they are nuts! Anchorage, The biggest city in alaska (350,000 people). It was a great time, I lived there from 11-19. I just prefer Cali, I was born in Santa Barbara. It's a totally different world up there Grateful to have what I have, Les amis de mes amis sont mes amis! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gonzer Posted January 11, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 11, 2013 44 @ 2:00am, dropped 4 degrees to 40 in 1 hour 45 minutes.. We're OK today. Here at work at the shore it seems just as cold (no thermometer). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattyB Posted January 11, 2013 Report Share Posted January 11, 2013 40 f, for our low this morning. The winds kept it "warm" Matt Bradford "Manambe Lavaka" Spring Valley, CA (8.5 miles inland from San Diego Bay) 10B on the hill (635 ft. elevation) 9B in the canyon (520 ft. elevation) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jastin Posted January 11, 2013 Report Share Posted January 11, 2013 It was 50.7, 53%, and 13 mph when I went to bed at 11. Woke up and it was 32.9. light frost on roof. Bananas look good. Lowest i've ever been. Grateful to have what I have, Les amis de mes amis sont mes amis! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevetoad Posted January 11, 2013 Report Share Posted January 11, 2013 30.6f at 5:45am. the bad times are here. "it's not dead it's sleeping" Santee ca, zone10a/9b 18 miles from the ocean avg. winter 68/40.avg summer 88/64.records 113/25 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattyB Posted January 11, 2013 Report Share Posted January 11, 2013 I just cut down my Jacaranda so I think I'll throw a sheet over my Satakentia. This will be the first time I've protected it all three years it's been in the ground. I didn't think it would grow here, but apparently it does, so I might as well keep it going. I was gonna ask you about that Matt, how it's doing and all. I've had one for 2 years and looks perfect. After 3 years in the ground, from a small 2 gallon, I'd say it's doing pretty good. I kept an eye on the temps last night and decided not to cover it. I may cover it for the first time tonight if it looks like we're going to dip into the 30's. It's been in full sun for over a month now and looks the same. I may put up some temporary shade cloth for summer, but now that the Jacaranda isn't sucking up all the water, maybe it'll be fine. Matt Bradford "Manambe Lavaka" Spring Valley, CA (8.5 miles inland from San Diego Bay) 10B on the hill (635 ft. elevation) 9B in the canyon (520 ft. elevation) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OB Burt Posted January 11, 2013 Report Share Posted January 11, 2013 Didn't get below 40 here, but my son in Carmel Valley (San Diego) hit 33 with frost on his windshield this morning burt repine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattyB Posted January 11, 2013 Report Share Posted January 11, 2013 I forgot to mention, I had three small trees (mallow & manihot) blow over due to gusting winds over 40 MPH yesterday. No biggie, they'll grow back. It's when we get to 60 MPH when it really gets nasty and the house goes on vibration mode. Matt Bradford "Manambe Lavaka" Spring Valley, CA (8.5 miles inland from San Diego Bay) 10B on the hill (635 ft. elevation) 9B in the canyon (520 ft. elevation) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jastin Posted January 11, 2013 Report Share Posted January 11, 2013 Lookin good Matt! Mine looks the same, maybe 3 leaves smaller. I was wondering when to give it full sun (if ever). Mine has seen 35 this year and 32.9 last night and so far so good. Grateful to have what I have, Les amis de mes amis sont mes amis! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattyB Posted January 11, 2013 Report Share Posted January 11, 2013 I'm wondering about the sun thing too. Mine is on it's way this year, for better or worse, so I'll let you know. I'm kinda getting over the novelty of having rare species that I can make survive because I have a good microclimate. Just cause I can grow Pinanga caesia (and apparently I can because I can't get it to die, it just keeps growing) doesn't mean that I wanna look at a piece of crap looking palm all the time. And things like Hyophorbe vershafeltii are getting close to my short list as well. Even though they are turning into monsters with trunk, I'm just thinking that after a certain amount of leaf burn, "who wants to look at that all year?". Matt Bradford "Manambe Lavaka" Spring Valley, CA (8.5 miles inland from San Diego Bay) 10B on the hill (635 ft. elevation) 9B in the canyon (520 ft. elevation) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jastin Posted January 12, 2013 Report Share Posted January 12, 2013 I totally agree. I'm kinda stuck now until something dies. Im just getting into my 4th year of growth and stuff is really starting to look good. I've put so much time into this stuff I would hate to loose anything. I keep telling myself that the stuff that is borderline sensitive for me will look better when it's more mature. Sure I can grow rare stuff but can I really grow it the way its supposed to look? I guess we'll never know till we try. Just look at what they said about Bentinckia condapanna when it first came around. Grateful to have what I have, Les amis de mes amis sont mes amis! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattyB Posted January 12, 2013 Report Share Posted January 12, 2013 45f at my house at 6 pm. Now at 9 pm I'm in La Mesa at grossmont center and it's 52 f. W thathat's about? Matt Bradford "Manambe Lavaka" Spring Valley, CA (8.5 miles inland from San Diego Bay) 10B on the hill (635 ft. elevation) 9B in the canyon (520 ft. elevation) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elHoagie Posted January 12, 2013 Report Share Posted January 12, 2013 I'm kinda getting over the novelty of having rare species that I can make survive because I have a good microclimate. Just cause I can grow Pinanga caesia (and apparently I can because I can't get it to die, it just keeps growing) doesn't mean that I wanna look at a piece of crap looking palm all the time. And things like Hyophorbe vershafeltii are getting close to my short list as well. Even though they are turning into monsters with trunk, I'm just thinking that after a certain amount of leaf burn, "who wants to look at that all year?". I totally agree. I've been thinking the same thing about my Hyophorbes for a while. Maybe this winter will make them look crappy enough that I finally dig them out. On the other hand, my Braheas look f-ing awesome. Jack Sayers East Los Angeles growing cold tolerant palms halfway between the equator and the arctic circle... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevetoad Posted January 12, 2013 Report Share Posted January 12, 2013 It's 9:17pm and already 38.1f no wind at all. Fans running out back and boxes covering palms. 20 year old scotch makes me not care "it's not dead it's sleeping" Santee ca, zone10a/9b 18 miles from the ocean avg. winter 68/40.avg summer 88/64.records 113/25 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hammer Posted January 12, 2013 Report Share Posted January 12, 2013 10:15pm. 39°f on the open. 46°f up next to the house. The air is dead still. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattyB Posted January 12, 2013 Report Share Posted January 12, 2013 I'm not feeling crazy cold guys. Yes, the air is still, but theres ample humidity and cloudy skies. Matt Bradford "Manambe Lavaka" Spring Valley, CA (8.5 miles inland from San Diego Bay) 10B on the hill (635 ft. elevation) 9B in the canyon (520 ft. elevation) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tropicalb Posted January 12, 2013 Report Share Posted January 12, 2013 you got a lot more cloud cover down there matty....it's pretty clear up this way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevetoad Posted January 12, 2013 Report Share Posted January 12, 2013 My temp went down to 37 now it's been climbing. I'm up to 41 now and my main unit is showing the up arrow. "it's not dead it's sleeping" Santee ca, zone10a/9b 18 miles from the ocean avg. winter 68/40.avg summer 88/64.records 113/25 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevetoad Posted January 12, 2013 Report Share Posted January 12, 2013 And now it's pouring out. I had to run out there to unplug my fans. "it's not dead it's sleeping" Santee ca, zone10a/9b 18 miles from the ocean avg. winter 68/40.avg summer 88/64.records 113/25 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattyB Posted January 12, 2013 Report Share Posted January 12, 2013 ho crap it's sprinkling here too. I thought it felt humid. what the hell is going on? Matt Bradford "Manambe Lavaka" Spring Valley, CA (8.5 miles inland from San Diego Bay) 10B on the hill (635 ft. elevation) 9B in the canyon (520 ft. elevation) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tropicalb Posted January 12, 2013 Report Share Posted January 12, 2013 it's RAINING in santee right NOW??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trioderob Posted January 12, 2013 Report Share Posted January 12, 2013 I got a hail storm here ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevetoad Posted January 12, 2013 Report Share Posted January 12, 2013 it's RAINING in santee right NOW??? Yes. A ton. Now all my frost protection is wet. Fml "it's not dead it's sleeping" Santee ca, zone10a/9b 18 miles from the ocean avg. winter 68/40.avg summer 88/64.records 113/25 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tropicalb Posted January 12, 2013 Report Share Posted January 12, 2013 into the chatroom guys..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevetoad Posted January 12, 2013 Report Share Posted January 12, 2013 ho crap it's sprinkling here too. I thought it felt humid. what the hell is going on? I'm 9 degrees from it snowing. That's what's going on... "it's not dead it's sleeping" Santee ca, zone10a/9b 18 miles from the ocean avg. winter 68/40.avg summer 88/64.records 113/25 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tropicalb Posted January 12, 2013 Report Share Posted January 12, 2013 or not....lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattyB Posted January 12, 2013 Report Share Posted January 12, 2013 Ok it's straight out hailing! Matt Bradford "Manambe Lavaka" Spring Valley, CA (8.5 miles inland from San Diego Bay) 10B on the hill (635 ft. elevation) 9B in the canyon (520 ft. elevation) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hammer Posted January 12, 2013 Report Share Posted January 12, 2013 That is wild! Rain?!!! Completely clear skies here. Hail? Ooooo not good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattyB Posted January 12, 2013 Report Share Posted January 12, 2013 I can't chat on my phone Matt Bradford "Manambe Lavaka" Spring Valley, CA (8.5 miles inland from San Diego Bay) 10B on the hill (635 ft. elevation) 9B in the canyon (520 ft. elevation) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gonzer Posted January 12, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 12, 2013 34.5 at 3:15am but the Oceanside aiport reports 31. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hammer Posted January 12, 2013 Report Share Posted January 12, 2013 37°f at 3:30am 33°f at 6:00am in the open, 39.5 next to the house. No visible frost on any plants except a very visible frost on the grass in the side yard. The hill,like yesterday, is covered with frost. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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