Rafael Posted January 16, 2012 Report Share Posted January 16, 2012 As many of you have read these recent days, i have received, from heritage, a new house, 5km inland from where i live (900 mts apart from sea line). This house has a small garden, which has a mild microclimate, comparing to my main garden (where, for example, a cunninghamiana is frost and freeze damaged without canopy). From my first researches, i know now that this new garden is four celsius degrees (and 7,5F degrees) above mine, concerning to minimum. These colder days, when we had 29,5F in my house's garden, this other one had 37F. Besides that, it has north and west edifice protection. And it has a resticted solar exposure mainly in winter. Some shade lover palms will be grown here, in a couple of months/years. Firstly i will grow some fast palms. Later plant below its canopy. Howea, Ceroxylon, Rophie, Juania, bangalow, bizzie... Quote Furadouro and Ovar, zone 9b/10a. PORTUGALhttp://www.palmtalk.org/forum/index.php?showtopic=20668http://www.palmtalk.org/forum/index.php?/topic/31527-my-new-garden-ovar-january2012/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rafael Posted January 16, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 16, 2012 I had to remove the concrete tablets and the grass. Hey, that's not me Quote Furadouro and Ovar, zone 9b/10a. PORTUGALhttp://www.palmtalk.org/forum/index.php?showtopic=20668http://www.palmtalk.org/forum/index.php?/topic/31527-my-new-garden-ovar-january2012/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rafael Posted January 16, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 16, 2012 Back of the house Another exterior spot, maybe where a small greenhouse will be built Quote Furadouro and Ovar, zone 9b/10a. PORTUGALhttp://www.palmtalk.org/forum/index.php?showtopic=20668http://www.palmtalk.org/forum/index.php?/topic/31527-my-new-garden-ovar-january2012/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rafael Posted January 17, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 17, 2012 East Gardeners doing the hard part Quote Furadouro and Ovar, zone 9b/10a. PORTUGALhttp://www.palmtalk.org/forum/index.php?showtopic=20668http://www.palmtalk.org/forum/index.php?/topic/31527-my-new-garden-ovar-january2012/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rafael Posted January 17, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 17, 2012 First palms on deck In the ground - Parajubaea tt, Queen, Liv. Australis, Date, Sabal causarium and jubaea With dypsis decipiens Quote Furadouro and Ovar, zone 9b/10a. PORTUGALhttp://www.palmtalk.org/forum/index.php?showtopic=20668http://www.palmtalk.org/forum/index.php?/topic/31527-my-new-garden-ovar-january2012/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rafael Posted January 17, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 17, 2012 A closer one, with mulch. Parajubaea 2 Quote Furadouro and Ovar, zone 9b/10a. PORTUGALhttp://www.palmtalk.org/forum/index.php?showtopic=20668http://www.palmtalk.org/forum/index.php?/topic/31527-my-new-garden-ovar-january2012/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kim Posted January 17, 2012 Report Share Posted January 17, 2012 Wow, Rafael, you wasted no time with the grass. Nice work, planting those palms. I am very happy for you. Will you live in the house, or is it a vacation home? It sounds like a very good climate for you. Quote Kim Cyr Between the beach and the bays, Point Loma, San Diego, California USA and on a 300 year-old lava flow, Pahoa, Hawaii, 1/4 mile from the 2018 flow All characters in this work are fictitious. Any resemblance to real persons, living or dead, is purely coincidental. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tropicgardener Posted January 17, 2012 Report Share Posted January 17, 2012 Wow, great work........makes me feel lazy.... I have a new garden to build but nothing like that! Quote Andrew, Airlie Beach, Whitsundays Tropical Queensland Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DALION Posted January 17, 2012 Report Share Posted January 17, 2012 Good job at getting palms in the ground so quickly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peachy Posted January 17, 2012 Report Share Posted January 17, 2012 Hurry up and finish this garden Rafael so I can move in. Looks funny seeing a portugese garden that isnt one plant and 2 hectares of tiles. Peachy 1 Quote I came. I saw. I purchased 27.35 south. Warm subtropical, with occasional frosts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam from Oz Posted January 17, 2012 Report Share Posted January 17, 2012 Hurry up and finish this garden Rafael so I can move in. Looks funny seeing a portugese garden that isnt one plant and 2 hectares of tiles. Peachy Don't start me! When I was living in France, I visited Portugal with some friends. One of them had an unbeknownst to me tile fetish. I was trying to look at the gorgeous palms and scenery and spent my entire time getting dragged from one place to another to check out bloody tiles. After three days of this, I was ready to wall to wall carpet and wood-panel Lisbon! Nice start there, Rafael! Keep us apprised....... Cheers, Adam Quote Melbourne, Australia. Temps range from -1C to 46C. Strange Climate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulgila Posted January 17, 2012 Report Share Posted January 17, 2012 what is the building in the 1st 2 pix? a garage? the yard is bigger than i thought it would be! what are you going to do for ground cover? Quote the "prince of snarkness." still "warning-free." san diego,california,left coast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dalmatiansoap Posted January 17, 2012 Report Share Posted January 17, 2012 Bravo Rafael. Nice job done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dimitris Posted January 17, 2012 Report Share Posted January 17, 2012 Everything looks great !!! i have thought too to remove the lawn and cover the ground with gravels or pine bark but i haven't do it until now maybe the following spring . The strelitzia you got there is the Mandelas gold ? cause the flower looks to me like yellow . Quote If you wait to do everything until you're sure it's right, you'll probably never do much of anything. Western Greece zone 9b Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palmzilla Posted January 17, 2012 Report Share Posted January 17, 2012 Nice Job Rafeal! That Jubea will look nice next to the parajubaea! Braden Quote Braden de Jong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
realarch Posted January 17, 2012 Report Share Posted January 17, 2012 Be sure to NOT plant any clumpers, Peachy will never move in. Quote Tim Hilo, Hawaii Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bgl Posted January 17, 2012 Report Share Posted January 17, 2012 Rafael, Wow, great start! And a quick one! Always good to get the palms in the ground as quickly as possible. Looking forward to more! Aloha, Bo-Göran Quote Leilani Estates, 25 mls/40 km south of Hilo, Big Island of Hawai'i. Elevation 880 ft/270 m. Average rainfall 140 inches/3550 mm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BS Man about Palms Posted January 18, 2012 Report Share Posted January 18, 2012 Luv it so far! Quote Zone 10a at best after 2007 AND 2013, on SW facing hill, 1 1/2 miles from coast in Oceanside, CA. 30-98 degrees, and 45-80deg. about 95% of the time. "The great workman of nature is time." "Genius is nothing but a great aptitude for patience." -George-Louis Leclerc de Buffon- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rafael Posted January 18, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 18, 2012 Thanks you all, and yes, i was fast doing the convertion, mainly cause i had no more room to protect palms, and then decided to move almost everything potted. Some of my potted palms could not handle outside in my main garden, but can in this other one. Meanwhile, i decided to act immediately over the garden, and i am glad with it. Kim - this will be a future week-end house, but first i have lots of work to do, as my kids and i want many changes before start moving. Peachy - i will take just a few more weeks, and will let you know . Btw, the portuguese concept of gardening is changing by my hand, so no tiles anymore Paul - That's just a small outbuilding, where i will organize all gardening stuff. For ground cover, this time, i will use just mulch (pine tree bark). No more needs for constant irrigation, that was enough, when some of my palms have to support it, and dont like it, like parajubaea, jubaea, sabal, brahea... Dimitris - There were two strelitzias here, but not any more. Braden - thanks, that's your qualified taste, good to hear Tim - Soon more updating! Quote Furadouro and Ovar, zone 9b/10a. PORTUGALhttp://www.palmtalk.org/forum/index.php?showtopic=20668http://www.palmtalk.org/forum/index.php?/topic/31527-my-new-garden-ovar-january2012/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balaka17 Posted February 23, 2012 Report Share Posted February 23, 2012 Bravo Rafael, and we wait in the future other photos according to the new plantations. Best regards Patrick Quote "Fous de Palmiers" France Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rafael Posted March 14, 2012 Author Report Share Posted March 14, 2012 The second take, planting Bizzie, beccariophoenix alfredii, Rophie baueri and ceroxylon alpinum. Quote Furadouro and Ovar, zone 9b/10a. PORTUGALhttp://www.palmtalk.org/forum/index.php?showtopic=20668http://www.palmtalk.org/forum/index.php?/topic/31527-my-new-garden-ovar-january2012/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rafael Posted March 19, 2012 Author Report Share Posted March 19, 2012 Ravenea Rivularis Hedyscepe and Illawara And a general view, today Quote Furadouro and Ovar, zone 9b/10a. PORTUGALhttp://www.palmtalk.org/forum/index.php?showtopic=20668http://www.palmtalk.org/forum/index.php?/topic/31527-my-new-garden-ovar-january2012/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walter John Posted March 19, 2012 Report Share Posted March 19, 2012 I must say Raf, that is one solid plant out..Love it Quote Happy GardeningCheers, WalQueensland, Australia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cedric Posted March 19, 2012 Report Share Posted March 19, 2012 Peachy - i will take just a few more weeks, and will let you know . Btw, the portuguese concept of gardening is changing by my hand, so no tiles anymore Tim - Soon more updating! Ah what fun a brand new canvas to play on, its looking good I love the enthusiasm to get those thing in, everyone should have a date palm, a mans soul left standing proudly long after he's gone. But Oh and Awe and there I was envisaging a beautiful white washed wall with a line or six of stunning shinny blue/green tiles right around with mounted terracotta pots at intervals on its face (micro climate for ferns and orchids) a small window framing the ocean view through the palm trunks....... I love some tiles think Morrocco, Yves Saint Laurent, Alambra and of course Gaudi. Here in Hong Kong if you have a small garden its usually a square of cracking concrete adorned with green slime and a dead pot plant serving as a lovely little hypoxic swamp for shimmering mosquito larva, dengue on the wing. Quote Cerdic Non omnis moriar (Horace) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Pacific Posted March 19, 2012 Report Share Posted March 19, 2012 Have fun with you new garden, Rafael, and I know you'll be putting on periodic updates. It'll be fascinating watching your palms grow and passing that love on to your children. Peter Quote Peter hot and humid, short rainy season May through October, 14* latitude, 90* longitude Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rafael Posted April 1, 2012 Author Report Share Posted April 1, 2012 Thanks Wal, Cedric and Peter for your kind coments! I have been planting some more stuff. Cunninghamiana tranplanted from my other garden, showing some winter damage. On the right, illawara, next to small double decipiens Rophie sapida transplanted - hope it will make it through Rophie baueri transplanted on the left, next to sabal causarium General view Thats all, so far Quote Furadouro and Ovar, zone 9b/10a. PORTUGALhttp://www.palmtalk.org/forum/index.php?showtopic=20668http://www.palmtalk.org/forum/index.php?/topic/31527-my-new-garden-ovar-january2012/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peachy Posted April 1, 2012 Report Share Posted April 1, 2012 Stop putting secondhand palms into my new garden Rafael. Dont be so stingy. Buy new palms. And dont forget to leave room for the tiles. Peachy 1 Quote I came. I saw. I purchased 27.35 south. Warm subtropical, with occasional frosts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rafael Posted May 17, 2012 Author Report Share Posted May 17, 2012 Jubaeopsis caffra, the next one! And no tiles for now Peachy Quote Furadouro and Ovar, zone 9b/10a. PORTUGALhttp://www.palmtalk.org/forum/index.php?showtopic=20668http://www.palmtalk.org/forum/index.php?/topic/31527-my-new-garden-ovar-january2012/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rafael Posted June 19, 2012 Author Report Share Posted June 19, 2012 Dypsis decarii - the new palm added to my new garden! Quote Furadouro and Ovar, zone 9b/10a. PORTUGALhttp://www.palmtalk.org/forum/index.php?showtopic=20668http://www.palmtalk.org/forum/index.php?/topic/31527-my-new-garden-ovar-january2012/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kostas Posted June 19, 2012 Report Share Posted June 19, 2012 Excellent transformation Rafael!!! Well done! I think you did well to transplant palms that burned annually at your other garden to your better climate one. I would grow the more tender species in this garden and leave the cold hardy ones for the worse climate one. Thats what i am doing in Pyrgos,planting mostly tender species and leaving the cold hardier ones i like for the main garden i will make which might not have as good a climate as Pyrgos That way you get to grow and enjoy more species Its also good to have a variety of different plant families in a garden as it makes for a more natural looking and jungle like garden if correctly planned but that of course if a matter of personal preference Quote ''To try,is to risk failure.......To not try,is to guarantee it'' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rafael Posted November 1, 2012 Author Report Share Posted November 1, 2012 Updating Roystonea regia Quote Furadouro and Ovar, zone 9b/10a. PORTUGALhttp://www.palmtalk.org/forum/index.php?showtopic=20668http://www.palmtalk.org/forum/index.php?/topic/31527-my-new-garden-ovar-january2012/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rafael Posted November 1, 2012 Author Report Share Posted November 1, 2012 Howea Cyphophoenix elegans Quote Furadouro and Ovar, zone 9b/10a. PORTUGALhttp://www.palmtalk.org/forum/index.php?showtopic=20668http://www.palmtalk.org/forum/index.php?/topic/31527-my-new-garden-ovar-january2012/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rafael Posted November 1, 2012 Author Report Share Posted November 1, 2012 Wall view Quote Furadouro and Ovar, zone 9b/10a. PORTUGALhttp://www.palmtalk.org/forum/index.php?showtopic=20668http://www.palmtalk.org/forum/index.php?/topic/31527-my-new-garden-ovar-january2012/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rafael Posted November 1, 2012 Author Report Share Posted November 1, 2012 Another one of another double dypsis decipiens Quote Furadouro and Ovar, zone 9b/10a. PORTUGALhttp://www.palmtalk.org/forum/index.php?showtopic=20668http://www.palmtalk.org/forum/index.php?/topic/31527-my-new-garden-ovar-january2012/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walter John Posted November 1, 2012 Report Share Posted November 1, 2012 Love to see an entire garden photo Raf, maybe get up on one of the walls ? Speaking of which, the walls look like they will help to create your micro climate effect. I love the idea of the Roystonea and Howea plantings. Thanks for the update.. Quote Happy GardeningCheers, WalQueensland, Australia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NApalm Posted November 2, 2012 Report Share Posted November 2, 2012 Lookin good Rafael. I can see in a few years time a bit of a canopy coming on... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulgila Posted November 2, 2012 Report Share Posted November 2, 2012 looking good,dewd! Quote the "prince of snarkness." still "warning-free." san diego,california,left coast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palmlover Posted November 3, 2012 Report Share Posted November 3, 2012 Looks like the start of a nice garden. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rafael Posted November 4, 2012 Author Report Share Posted November 4, 2012 Thank u all! This garden felt in my hands when i knew some tips about palms and that made some difference from the first one. But i am still afraid of some losses in the coming winter. Wal, this one is an almost entire garden photo Quote Furadouro and Ovar, zone 9b/10a. PORTUGALhttp://www.palmtalk.org/forum/index.php?showtopic=20668http://www.palmtalk.org/forum/index.php?/topic/31527-my-new-garden-ovar-january2012/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Annika Posted November 13, 2012 Report Share Posted November 13, 2012 Nice! I look forward to visiting & seeing how it all looks in Spring! Quote Biz/Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/NomadDakiniDesign Blog: http://annikalundkvist.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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