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I use an Oregon Scientific. It has a base station that I keep next to my bed and I have 3 remote sensors that transmit back to the base station, which keeps track of the hi and low temps, barometric pressure, humidity. I keep one sensor in the greenhouse, one under canopy, and one out in the open. I love it!

I use my old house thermostat outside my window. I think I need an upgrade!

what no pic jastin???

"it's not dead it's sleeping"

Santee ca, zone10a/9b

18 miles from the ocean

avg. winter 68/40.avg summer 88/64.records 113/25

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I use an Oregon Scientific. It has a base station that I keep next to my bed and I have 3 remote sensors that transmit back to the base station, which keeps track of the hi and low temps, barometric pressure, humidity. I keep one sensor in the greenhouse, one under canopy, and one out in the open. I love it!

I use my old house thermostat outside my window. I think I need an upgrade!

what no pic jastin???

If I could upload it with my iPhone there would be a lot more pictures up in here!

Grateful to have what I have, Les amis de mes amis sont mes amis!

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Thanks for the laugh Matty. I can hear Bill saying each one of those phrases.

Len

Vista, CA (Zone 10a)

Shadowridge Area

"Show me your garden and I shall tell you what you are."

-- Alfred Austin

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I FIRMLY RESEMBLE EVERYONE HERE.

Zone 10a at best after 2007 AND 2013, on SW facing hill, 1 1/2 miles from coast in Oceanside, CA. 30-98 degrees, and 45-80deg. about 95% of the time.

"The great workman of nature is time."

"Genius is nothing but a great aptitude for patience."

-George-Louis Leclerc de Buffon-

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George Coleman a weatherman??? That censored.gif couldn't predict darkness! He called for 3°-5° degrees warmer this morning and lo and behold what do I see upon waking at 2:00 am? 31.3°! grrrr.gifThat guy seriously needs to book a room for an extended stay at Bellvue.

P.S. For our non-county palmophiles George Coleman is a local TV news weather forecasting lunatic who's old enough to probably have voted for Lincoln.

 

 

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i was a bit warmer today. at 5 am i was 36. no frost on the ground. frost just on the top of the car and roofs...

"it's not dead it's sleeping"

Santee ca, zone10a/9b

18 miles from the ocean

avg. winter 68/40.avg summer 88/64.records 113/25

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Southside Vista

Measurements taken under no canopy at all and about 2 ft off the ground

Sunday morning 35F no frost

Monday morning 36F with light "slushy almost frost" on cars only

Tuesday morning 36F no moisture at all.

Carl

Vista, CA

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Carl,

My temps from yesterday and today reflect your observations as well.

Yesterday I was 43.7f under canopy, 42.3f out in the open

Today I was 43.9f under canopy, 41.0f out in the open.

So, the air temp under canopy was the same or slightly warmer today, but because the air was drier, my out in the open temps dropped lower due to more radiative heat loss to space. The drier the air gets the farther and farther apart my canopy and out in the open temps diverge. Conversely, on a humid night they will read the same.

I did observe some patchy frost down in the lower parts of my property today. It only occured where the native grass had been stepped on and flattened out, making it horizontal with the sky. Any unflattened grass had no frost. Similar to frost on car hoods and windshields when the air temps are well above 32f.

Matt Bradford

"Manambe Lavaka"

Spring Valley, CA (8.5 miles inland from San Diego Bay)

10B on the hill (635 ft. elevation)

9B in the canyon (520 ft. elevation)

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I enjoy reading everyone's temperature reports; I consider myself lucky to live in such a mild climate(we have only seen mid 50's for 2 days, so far).

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Isn't the coldest time between 6-7am?

I've observed it to be just after sunrise, usually.

Today, it bottomed out right at 6:45am.

Matt Bradford

"Manambe Lavaka"

Spring Valley, CA (8.5 miles inland from San Diego Bay)

10B on the hill (635 ft. elevation)

9B in the canyon (520 ft. elevation)

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Wow, this is scary to check in and see since I am currently in Kailua, Oahu and the low is about 70! I'm glad I escaped the cold, but I wish I could say the same for my plants. I guess this will be the ultimate test for them since I wasnt home to cover anything or turn heat lights on in the greenhouse!

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It looks like tonight will be the coldest night of this whole event. With the wind advisory expiring at 4pm and the dry air still aloft, this should make for a very still, cold night, with more widespread frost. Widespread frost advisories aren't issued yet but they are expected to be from what I've been reading. The inland valleys will see frost for sure though, so you guys along the 76 corridor up in North County, Sansteevetoad, ya know, cover 'em up.

Matt Bradford

"Manambe Lavaka"

Spring Valley, CA (8.5 miles inland from San Diego Bay)

10B on the hill (635 ft. elevation)

9B in the canyon (520 ft. elevation)

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Just got in from work, official low of 29.5° and I'm pretty stoked. Aside from the usual tipping on the Cherimoyas and bananas all's well. The Chambyronia (1' trunk) took a good hit as it's canopy was cut down early this year and it had to fend for itself. Most unusual is that my pasilla chiles are fine, I expected worse. Stay tuned to this channel for your complete freeze updates dancingsmiley.gif, next report at 4:00 am tomorrow.

 

 

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Gonzer,

I think you need to check your temperature sensors because if you hit 29.5F your bananas should be completely fried, every last leaf. Unless you're growing your bananas under canopy... :hmm: On these crazy dry cold nights you cannot have a sensor that directly "sees" the sky or you will get a false low.

Matt Bradford

"Manambe Lavaka"

Spring Valley, CA (8.5 miles inland from San Diego Bay)

10B on the hill (635 ft. elevation)

9B in the canyon (520 ft. elevation)

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I'm covered! My papaya took a big hit last night even being covered. All the leaves a droopy. Royal palm got a bit of burn on the tallest leaves. Forgot to cover my spindle until tonight but somehow it has no damage at all. A few gingers got a little beat because I chopped down the plum tree they were under. Besides that everything else looks fine.....until tomorrow badday.gif

"it's not dead it's sleeping"

Santee ca, zone10a/9b

18 miles from the ocean

avg. winter 68/40.avg summer 88/64.records 113/25

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Saturday and Sunday nights = 35-36F (warmer than forecast)

Last night:

10pm = 38F (30+ pots go into garage)

Midnight = 34F (Sick feeling in pit of stomach)

6:30am = 32F (Relief)

Zone 9b/10a, Sunset Zone 22

7 miles inland. Elevation 120ft (37m)

Average annual low temp: 30F (-1C)

Average annual rainfall: 8" (20cm)

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Yeah I heard oceanside airport hit 26 last night.

Jastin, go to the bottom of the page, click "full version" and you'll be able to upload pics from your phone.

Matt Bradford

"Manambe Lavaka"

Spring Valley, CA (8.5 miles inland from San Diego Bay)

10B on the hill (635 ft. elevation)

9B in the canyon (520 ft. elevation)

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Whoa. What's going on down there?

It sounds like the cold snaps so far this winter have been worse in San Diego than way up here (although we probably will hit 28 tomorrow AM for our first serious frost of the season).

Usually I'm bringing palm trees back home when I visit my in-laws in north San Diego county for the holidays. Maybe this year I should bring a few down south.

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Tonight looks like a repeat of last night, only if their is zero breeze, it could be worse. Accuweather predicts 31F, weather.com 27F.

During these arctic events, Oceanside has lower lows than Ramona. I can go 3 years without seeing below 35F, then it drops into the 20s.

Zone 9b/10a, Sunset Zone 22

7 miles inland. Elevation 120ft (37m)

Average annual low temp: 30F (-1C)

Average annual rainfall: 8" (20cm)

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Well, the Gods have not forsaken us. 2:00 AM read was 34.7, at 2:30 it was 35.5 and at 3:45 it was 36.1.

Matt, I hear ya about the sensor, my unit is in the colder part of the yard away from the 'nanas. Terry's SE of me, BS is SW and the airport is due north. Oceanside's got more funky weather zones than you can shake a tree frog's leg at!

 

 

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I use an Oregon Scientific. It has a base station that I keep next to my bed and I have 3 remote sensors that transmit back to the base station, which keeps track of the hi and low temps, barometric pressure, humidity. I keep one sensor in the greenhouse, one under canopy, and one out in the open. I love it!

I use exactly the same stuff, but with only 1 sensor. The station sometimes increase my nightmares :D as it is next to my bed too

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Well, the Gods have not forsaken us. 2:00 AM read was 34.7, at 2:30 it was 35.5 and at 3:45 it was 36.1.

Matt, I hear ya about the sensor, my unit is in the colder part of the yard away from the 'nanas. Terry's SE of me, BS is SW and the airport is due north. Oceanside's got more funky weather zones than you can shake a tree frog's leg at!

Interesting.

This is the coldest morning of the year in this area, 32F @ 6:00 am although it only stayed there for 30 min

Southside Vista

Measurements taken under no canopy at all and about 2 ft off the ground

Sunday morning 35F no frost

Monday morning 36F with light "slushy almost frost" on cars only

Tuesday morning 36F no moisture at all.

Wednesday morning 32F no frost

Now for the fun part...it ain't even winter yet. :evil:

Carl

Vista, CA

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33.3F at my place. And this is the first time I've had palms in the garage before Christmas. If this is going to be normal for 2012 I might have to buy nicer pots find sunny interior locations for a few palms.

Zone 9b/10a, Sunset Zone 22

7 miles inland. Elevation 120ft (37m)

Average annual low temp: 30F (-1C)

Average annual rainfall: 8" (20cm)

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Frost...that's all I'm going to say

"it's not dead it's sleeping"

Santee ca, zone10a/9b

18 miles from the ocean

avg. winter 68/40.avg summer 88/64.records 113/25

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Interesting... In Riverside I woke up at 5:00 this morning and it was 37 ... No frost, no leaf damage on the bananas. Sounds like Oceanside had it worse than us!

Dave

 

Riverside, CA Z 9b

1700 ft. elevation

approx 40 miles inland

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I am sleeping in lately... therefore I have noticed it is not as cold.........

when I get up.

So matty, WHEN do banana leaves toast?

Greg, wouldn't the airport be west of you, but in more of a "valley"?

Zone 10a at best after 2007 AND 2013, on SW facing hill, 1 1/2 miles from coast in Oceanside, CA. 30-98 degrees, and 45-80deg. about 95% of the time.

"The great workman of nature is time."

"Genius is nothing but a great aptitude for patience."

-George-Louis Leclerc de Buffon-

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Greg, wouldn't the airport be west of you, but in more of a "valley"?

Yeah Bill, my mistake. It was the way I was sittin' in my chair when I typed that, :blush:

 

 

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I am sleeping in lately... therefore I have noticed it is not as cold.........

when I get up.

Wow! Does that work? I need to try that. I've tried other things like shouting at the cold and trying to punch it but neither seems to work.

Oh and Gonz..... :floor:

Carl

Vista, CA

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this morning: 42.5f out in the open, 45.1f under canopy, very light wannabe frost down on the flattened grass in the canyon bottom.

I had to make a run out to Santee at about 8:30am and I got out of the car and it was noticeably colder than when I had left my house. I don't have a car thermometer, but I'd estimate low 30's. I couldn't see my breath at my house, but in Santee I could.

Matt Bradford

"Manambe Lavaka"

Spring Valley, CA (8.5 miles inland from San Diego Bay)

10B on the hill (635 ft. elevation)

9B in the canyon (520 ft. elevation)

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I hope the cold hasn't caused too much damage.

Fortunately my hill works very well on these dry radiational nights. I had three nights with lows between 5-6 C (41-43F), and my low last night was 9C (48F).

Jack Sayers

East Los Angeles

growing cold tolerant palms halfway between the equator and the arctic circle...

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this morning: 42.5f out in the open, 45.1f under canopy, very light wannabe frost down on the flattened grass in the canyon bottom.

I had to make a run out to Santee at about 8:30am and I got out of the car and it was noticeably colder than when I had left my house. I don't have a car thermometer, but I'd estimate low 30's. I couldn't see my breath at my house, but in Santee I could.

Santee was very cold. I had frost on the grass until 9 am in the shade. Starting to notice some damage now. sick.gif

"it's not dead it's sleeping"

Santee ca, zone10a/9b

18 miles from the ocean

avg. winter 68/40.avg summer 88/64.records 113/25

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