SubTropicRay Posted January 4, 2007 Report Share Posted January 4, 2007 From MSN http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/16457787/from/ET/ Tampa, Interbay Peninsula, Florida, USA subtropical USDA Zone 10A Bokeelia, Pine Island, Florida, USA subtropical USDA Zone 10B Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exotic Life Posted January 4, 2007 Report Share Posted January 4, 2007 This is also a proove that the weather is over the whole world confused ... Southwest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZoneTenNut Posted January 4, 2007 Report Share Posted January 4, 2007 Here's another article from the South Florida Sun Sentinel, where scientists are now predicting 2007 to be the hottest year recorded and fewer hurricanes for Florida and the east coast. http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news....adlines Royal Palm Beach, FL. USDA Zone 10A/10B Subtropical 26.7 degrees N. latitude 10 miles West of West Palm Beach and the ocean Avg. yearly rainfall 58 inches :cool: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NBTX11 Posted January 4, 2007 Report Share Posted January 4, 2007 Not everyone has been above average. We have been right at average, and some areas of the southwest have been below average. These things will balance themselves out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gsn Posted January 4, 2007 Report Share Posted January 4, 2007 (ZoneTenNut @ Jan. 04 2007,15:29)QUOTEHere's another article from the South Florida Sun Sentinel, where scientists are now predicting 2007 to be the hottest year recorded and fewer hurricanes for Florida and the east coast. http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news....adlines ZoneTenNut, I sure hope they are right on this 2007 forecast, but they COMPLETLY missed their hurricane predictions for 2006. I'm glad they did,but this just reenforces how fickle mother nature can be. And how long term forcasting is GUESSING at best! Maybe educated guessing, but guessing none the less! Scott Titusville, FL 1/2 mile from the Indian River USDA Zone COLD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZoneTenNut Posted January 5, 2007 Report Share Posted January 5, 2007 (gsn @ Jan. 04 2007,18:52)QUOTE (ZoneTenNut @ Jan. 04 2007,15:29)QUOTEHere's another article from the South Florida Sun Sentinel, where scientists are now predicting 2007 to be the hottest year recorded and fewer hurricanes for Florida and the east coast. http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news....adlines ZoneTenNut, I sure hope they are right on this 2007 forecast, but they COMPLETLY missed their hurricane predictions for 2006. I'm glad they did,but this just reenforces how fickle mother nature can be. And how long term forcasting is GUESSING at best! Maybe educated guessing, but guessing none the less! Scott, I'd have to agree with you 100%, but interesting reading none the less. Living on a peninsula smack dab in the middle of hurricane alley, we'll always be at risk. As such and with the experience of 3 hurricanes in the last couple years, I've learned to plant more hurricane resistant palms and trees, prune judiciously, etc. Oh yeah, I also pulled down about 15 large pines from around my house. Don't want to go through the stress again, of wondering if one of them was going to come crashing down on us. Hated to do it, but had to. I too am hoping the fewer hurricanes in 2007 prediction comes true. Royal Palm Beach, FL. USDA Zone 10A/10B Subtropical 26.7 degrees N. latitude 10 miles West of West Palm Beach and the ocean Avg. yearly rainfall 58 inches :cool: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
happ Posted January 5, 2007 Report Share Posted January 5, 2007 ZoneTenNut The sobering reality of dealing with Mother Nature The Southwest experiences too much drought for water-dependent palms/subtropicals. $$ Winter hasn't been particularly warm in LA [DEC 71.8 / 51.3] - one degree above normal. I'm surprised by comments from Florida since your winter is generally warm & dry, right? Los Angeles/Pasadena 34° 10' N 118° 18' W Elevation: 910'/278m January Average Hi/Lo: 69F/50F July Average Hi/Lo: 88F/66F Average Rainfall: 19"/48cm USDA 11/Sunset 23 http://cdec.water.ca.gov/cgi-progs/queryF?MTW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palmy Posted January 5, 2007 Report Share Posted January 5, 2007 Warm, I wish. Its freezing right now at a temp of 36F. And its been in the middle 30's the past several nights not to count the mid 20's wehad not to long ago. I wish we had the same weahter as lets say jacksonville right now. Meteorologist and PhD student in Climate Science Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neofolis Posted January 5, 2007 Report Share Posted January 5, 2007 I like the way they just pick random insignificant people to interview. Do they actually go out and interview these people in various states or does someone just sit behind a desk making up nice little stories? ] Corey Lucas-Divers Dorset, UK Ave Jul High 72F/22C (91F/33C Max) Ave Jul Low 52F/11C (45F/7C Min) Ave Jan High 46F/8C (59F/15C Max) Ave Jan Low 34F/1C (21F/-6C Min) Ave Rain 736mm pa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZoneTenNut Posted January 5, 2007 Report Share Posted January 5, 2007 (happ @ Jan. 04 2007,21:50)QUOTEI'm surprised by comments from Florida since your winter is generally warm & dry, right? That is correct. However this year is warmer than usual and we seem to be getting more rain than is typical. In my area, we are still way below normal rainfall. I think the Florida folk in Central and Northern Florida are getting more rain than us. What I'm also observing though, is our humidity is consistently high and this time of year it should be much lower. Not complaining though, as my palms love this weather and show it. Royal Palm Beach, FL. USDA Zone 10A/10B Subtropical 26.7 degrees N. latitude 10 miles West of West Palm Beach and the ocean Avg. yearly rainfall 58 inches :cool: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SubTropicRay Posted January 5, 2007 Author Report Share Posted January 5, 2007 Everything thinks it's spring. I hope we don't get a nasty February. Ray Tampa, Interbay Peninsula, Florida, USA subtropical USDA Zone 10A Bokeelia, Pine Island, Florida, USA subtropical USDA Zone 10B Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZoneTenNut Posted January 5, 2007 Report Share Posted January 5, 2007 (Ray, Tampa @ Jan. 05 2007,07:16)QUOTEEverything thinks it's spring. I hope we don't get a nasty February. Ray No kidding! I've got major spring blooming and new growth happening on just about everything right now. Royal Palm Beach, FL. USDA Zone 10A/10B Subtropical 26.7 degrees N. latitude 10 miles West of West Palm Beach and the ocean Avg. yearly rainfall 58 inches :cool: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spockvr6 Posted January 6, 2007 Report Share Posted January 6, 2007 Looks like the party might at least slow down early next week. I see that NWS is calling for lows in the 40's for most areas around Tampa Bay on Tuesday night/Wednesday AM with very stiff winds (perhaps gusting to over 30 mph). Man this will be hard to take with all these 68-70 degree mornings as of late! Larry Palm Harbor, FL 10a / Ft Myers, FL 10b Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBa3Fan Posted January 6, 2007 Report Share Posted January 6, 2007 This is from my local newspaper www.timesdispatch.com Dec 9th it was 16.2 in my frontyard/20.2 in my backyard, but since then it has been at or above normal this is more of a cycle then global warming ........ I can remeber years where I have had more snow here in central Virginia then they have had in western, NY( Tonawanda) where I grew up untill 1976. I remember days in the winter in Buffalo in the mid to uper 70's in January also. It just feels weird' Warm weather brings out hikers, golfers, gardeners BY REX SPRINGSTON AND PETER BACQUE TIMES-DISPATCH STAFF WRITERS Jan 5, 2007 Rijnveld's Early Sensation daffodils are in bloom at Lewis Ginter Botanical Garden. LINDY KEAST RODMAN Flowers are blooming, turtles are basking and people are out in shorts. Is this normal? "I think Al Gore is correct," said Richmond restaurateur Manny Mendez, hiking a trail near Maymont while wearing shorts and sandals. Taking a cue from the former vice president, Mendez says global warming must be playing a role in this balmy winter weather. "It just feels weird, especially around the holidays," said Mendez's friend and co-hiker, Maris Wurdeman of Richmond. "It's kind of eerie." But at Lewis Ginter Botanical Garden, where numerous plants are blooming weeks ahead of normal, retired civil engineer Gus Diezemann of Hingham, Mass., thought otherwise. "It's just one of those cyclical things," he said. "It happens." Global warming or not, Richmond is definitely springing into winter. The unusual warmth traces most immediately to a persistent weather pattern that has funneled warm, southern air over the eastern U.S., while the West has gotten cold, northern flow. "They've got the [cold] trough and we've got the [warm] ridge," said Tony Siebers, the meteorologist in charge of the Wakefield Weather Forecast Office. "Let's hope this pattern holds for a while, at least for us." "Temperatures are well above normal right now, but we've had warm winters before," said the National Weather Service's Ed O'Lenic, chief of the U.S. Climate Prediction Center's long-range forecast branch. Almost all of Virginia experienced above-normal temperatures in six of the past 10 years, according to O'Lenic, and the state's highland areas saw even more above-normal years during that time. While this winter's warmth is part of that trend, "It's impossible to ascribe this to the El Nino going on or to global warming," O'Lenic said. "It's just one weather event." will try to do the things that they say can't be done Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave-Vero Posted January 6, 2007 Report Share Posted January 6, 2007 Florida was also dry in 2006. 33.5 inches for all of 2006 in Vero Beach, similar elsewhere, very close to the driest recorded. At least the early cool season has been damp, if not really wet. Fla. climate center: 100-119 days>85 F USDA 1990 hardiness zone 9B Current USDA hardiness zone 10a 4 km inland from Indian River; 27º N (equivalent to Brisbane) Central Orlando's urban heat island may be warmer than us Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
epicure3 Posted January 6, 2007 Report Share Posted January 6, 2007 (Palmy @ Jan. 05 2007,00:04)QUOTEWarm, I wish. Its freezing right now at a temp of 36F. And its been in the middle 30's the past several nights not to count the mid 20's wehad not to long ago. I wish we had the same weahter as lets say jacksonville right now. Where are you? You should list this in your tag. Coastal San Diego, California Z10b Dry summer subtropical/Mediterranean warm summer/mild winter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
epicure3 Posted January 6, 2007 Report Share Posted January 6, 2007 It has been very cold here in San Diego. Last night dropped down to 38 degrees. So, we here are not getting to share in this abnormal weather. Nature, however, always has a way to balance everything out. Coastal San Diego, California Z10b Dry summer subtropical/Mediterranean warm summer/mild winter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SubTropicRay Posted January 6, 2007 Author Report Share Posted January 6, 2007 Larry, the warmth will return shortly thereafter. No worries. Tampa, Interbay Peninsula, Florida, USA subtropical USDA Zone 10A Bokeelia, Pine Island, Florida, USA subtropical USDA Zone 10B Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gsn Posted January 7, 2007 Report Share Posted January 7, 2007 (Ray @ Tampa,Jan. 06 2007,18:26)QUOTELarry, the warmth will return shortly thereafter. No worries. Ray, That medication must be something! Converts a pessimist winter weatherman into a flag waving optimist! "No worries" Just how long were you in AUSSIELAND? :cool: By the way does anyone else have BLOOMING azaleas? Scott Titusville, FL 1/2 mile from the Indian River USDA Zone COLD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spockvr6 Posted January 7, 2007 Report Share Posted January 7, 2007 (gsn @ Jan. 06 2007,19:34)QUOTEBy the way does anyone else have BLOOMING azaleas? No Azaleas in my yard...but everything else that can bloom sure seems to be. My neighbor has a Hibiscus hedge thats about 8-10 ft tall along his side fence and its dripping tens of flowers a day into my yard. Larry Palm Harbor, FL 10a / Ft Myers, FL 10b Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spockvr6 Posted January 7, 2007 Report Share Posted January 7, 2007 (gsn @ Jan. 06 2007,19:34)QUOTERay, That medication must be something! Converts a pessimist winter weatherman into a flag waving optimist! "No worries" Just how long were you in AUSSIELAND? :cool: By the way does anyone else have BLOOMING azaleas? Until proven othewise, I am still going under the assumption that someone has stolen Ray's username and password Larry Palm Harbor, FL 10a / Ft Myers, FL 10b Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spockvr6 Posted January 7, 2007 Report Share Posted January 7, 2007 (Dave-Vero @ Jan. 06 2007,16:55)QUOTEFlorida was also dry in 2006. 33.5 inches for all of 2006 in Vero Beach, similar elsewhere, very close to the driest recorded. At least the early cool season has been damp, if not really wet. Fortunately that was not the case over here Vero Dave. I logged probably 250% of that rainfall here in Tarpon Springs. Larry Palm Harbor, FL 10a / Ft Myers, FL 10b Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BS Man about Palms Posted January 7, 2007 Report Share Posted January 7, 2007 NO FAIR! I Want Global warming to make it warmer than usual here in Southern California too!!!! Zone 10a at best after 2007 AND 2013, on SW facing hill, 1 1/2 miles from coast in Oceanside, CA. 30-98 degrees, and 45-80deg. about 95% of the time. "The great workman of nature is time." , "Genius is nothing but a great aptitude for patience." -George-Louis Leclerc de Buffon- I do some experiments and learning in my garden with palms so you don't have to experience the pain! Look at my old threads to find various observations and tips! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spockvr6 Posted January 7, 2007 Report Share Posted January 7, 2007 (BS, Man about Palms @ Jan. 06 2007,21:49)QUOTENO FAIR! I Want Global warming to make it warmer than usual here in Southern California too!!!! BS- Im not sure about the global warming part, but Ill take this run of warm days as long as it lasts. I believe that the warmest December on record around here was in the early 70's? But, it does always seem that things even out over time. Larry Palm Harbor, FL 10a / Ft Myers, FL 10b Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Searle Posted January 7, 2007 Report Share Posted January 7, 2007 This has been an incredibly warm winter so far. It's been great. Today, it was probably close to 90 degrees F. A little scattered rain would compliment this nicely. Jeff Searle Brothers Nursery Inc. and The Rainforest Collection. Southwest Ranches,Fl. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gsn Posted January 7, 2007 Report Share Posted January 7, 2007 Dare I say it BUT... if we get a cold snap, nothing and I mean nothing, is HARDENED-OFF! Spring growth on everything. I have my fingers and toes crossed this doesn't happen. This post will self destruct in 10 seconds! :laugh: Scott Titusville, FL 1/2 mile from the Indian River USDA Zone COLD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SunnyFl Posted January 7, 2007 Report Share Posted January 7, 2007 (Ray @ Tampa,Jan. 05 2007,07:16)QUOTEEverything thinks it's spring. I hope we don't get a nasty February. Ray I sure hope not. My ixoras are still blooming - they've never gone this long before, and today I noticed allamanda blooming profusely somewhere. Plus, the palmies are pushing new fronds quite happily. Today's St. Pete Times reported that cherry blossoms are even appearing - in New York! ?? St. Pete Zone - a wacked-out place between 9b & 10 Elevation = 44' - not that it does any good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NBTX11 Posted January 7, 2007 Report Share Posted January 7, 2007 This thread shoul read the ridiculously warm winter in the Southeast and midatlantic part of the US. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spockvr6 Posted January 7, 2007 Report Share Posted January 7, 2007 Were you at my house!?!? If this is winter, Ill take it. Larry Palm Harbor, FL 10a / Ft Myers, FL 10b Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spockvr6 Posted January 7, 2007 Report Share Posted January 7, 2007 Larry Palm Harbor, FL 10a / Ft Myers, FL 10b Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SubTropicRay Posted January 7, 2007 Author Report Share Posted January 7, 2007 Nice job Larry. I'm going to have to come visit and see the place in person. How is D. decipiens doing? Tampa, Interbay Peninsula, Florida, USA subtropical USDA Zone 10A Bokeelia, Pine Island, Florida, USA subtropical USDA Zone 10B Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spockvr6 Posted January 7, 2007 Report Share Posted January 7, 2007 (Ray, Tampa @ Jan. 07 2007,09:53)QUOTENice job Larry. I'm going to have to come visit and see the place in person. Any time you like Ray. Larry Palm Harbor, FL 10a / Ft Myers, FL 10b Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spockvr6 Posted January 7, 2007 Report Share Posted January 7, 2007 (Ray, Tampa @ Jan. 07 2007,09:53)QUOTE How is D. decipiens doing? I prefer not to discuss that I did everything by the book on that palm....copied Tim Hopper's online description he posted about how to pot it, used rocks around the top of the soil for drainage, made sure it wasnt too deep, used fast draining mix, etc etc....and it still croaked on me about 2 months ago Larry Palm Harbor, FL 10a / Ft Myers, FL 10b Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SunnyFl Posted January 7, 2007 Report Share Posted January 7, 2007 I totally forgot to mention how nice it was to see your pix of allamanda and clerodendrum. And, of course, the palms. Re: the demise of decipiens - I wonder if it's just too tricky, growing the dypsis species here that do well in CA. Sure, some people in FL have good results with decipiens (and barronii), but they just may have stronger plants or a special "knack" for growing them. My lutescens is growing like a weed - like the last one - but I hear a number of people have had trouble with them in CA. The last one had such nice form - it'd be a good size by now if I still had it. St. Pete Zone - a wacked-out place between 9b & 10 Elevation = 44' - not that it does any good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
epicure3 Posted January 8, 2007 Report Share Posted January 8, 2007 (SunnyFl @ Jan. 07 2007,11:08)QUOTEI totally forgot to mention how nice it was to see your pix of allamanda and clerodendrum. And, of course, the palms. Re: the demise of decipiens - I wonder if it's just too tricky, growing the dypsis species here that do well in CA. Sure, some people in FL have good results with decipiens (and barronii), but they just may have stronger plants or a special "knack" for growing them. My lutescens is growing like a weed - like the last one - but I hear a number of people have had trouble with them in CA. The last one had such nice form - it'd be a good size by now if I still had it. I have 6 clumps of dypsis lutescens here in SD since it is my favorite palm. My were all Hawaii born. No problems with them and they are in the ground 4 years now. Here's my favorite one. Coastal San Diego, California Z10b Dry summer subtropical/Mediterranean warm summer/mild winter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palmy Posted January 8, 2007 Report Share Posted January 8, 2007 This winter has been a little wierd in the bay area. The bay area saw some cold temps a month ago or so. I live in a very cold part of the bay area it would seem, a micro climate. They are calling again for mid 20's here, with a chance for snow above 1000 feet. Meteorologist and PhD student in Climate Science Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daryl Posted January 8, 2007 Report Share Posted January 8, 2007 Funny, but we had a cooler than average spring, and summer still hasn't really hit town yet...coolest dec/jan in quite a while. Daryl Gold Coast, Queensland Latitude 28S. Mild, Humid Subtropical climate. Rainfall - not consistent enough! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SunnyFl Posted January 9, 2007 Report Share Posted January 9, 2007 (epicure3 @ Jan. 07 2007,22:15)QUOTEI have 6 clumps of dypsis lutescens here in SD since it is my favorite palm. My were all Hawaii born. No problems with them and they are in the ground 4 years now. Here's my favorite one. Oooooh, niiiiice Notice the blue-white crownshaft, peeking out from behind the fronds. Honestly, I think lutescens is one of the most wonderful - what other palm has a crownshaft of mint-blue, white and gold, and such graceful fronds above it? Also - I really like your concrete retaining wall, it's a great accent. St. Pete Zone - a wacked-out place between 9b & 10 Elevation = 44' - not that it does any good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
epicure3 Posted January 9, 2007 Report Share Posted January 9, 2007 (SunnyFl @ Jan. 09 2007,00:00)QUOTE (epicure3 @ Jan. 07 2007,22:15)QUOTEI have 6 clumps of dypsis lutescens here in SD since it is my favorite palm. My were all Hawaii born. No problems with them and they are in the ground 4 years now. Here's my favorite one. Oooooh, niiiiice Notice the blue-white crownshaft, peeking out from behind the fronds. Honestly, I think lutescens is one of the most wonderful - what other palm has a crownshaft of mint-blue, white and gold, and such graceful fronds above it? Also - I really like your concrete retaining wall, it's a great accent. Thanks for the kudos. When I moved in, that spot was inhabited by a queen palm. We can't have any of that now. Coastal San Diego, California Z10b Dry summer subtropical/Mediterranean warm summer/mild winter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
happ Posted January 9, 2007 Report Share Posted January 9, 2007 (Daryl @ Jan. 08 2007,05:10)QUOTEFunny, but we had a cooler than average spring, and summer still hasn't really hit town yet...coolest dec/jan in quite a while. Daryl I've read that by other Aussie posters. How much cooler than normal has it been in Queensland ? Los Angeles/Pasadena 34° 10' N 118° 18' W Elevation: 910'/278m January Average Hi/Lo: 69F/50F July Average Hi/Lo: 88F/66F Average Rainfall: 19"/48cm USDA 11/Sunset 23 http://cdec.water.ca.gov/cgi-progs/queryF?MTW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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