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BS Man about Palms

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So- may have asked this privately...a long time ago, but not here

Probably 5 or 6 years ago I fond a unique Brom at a hardware store some100 + miles from here.

The person working there said the last one she saw like it was several years before... anyway, the flower was very different, the leaves kinda average...

Sorry for the poor old pics...

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Zone 10a at best after 2007 AND 2013, on SW facing hill, 1 1/2 miles from coast in Oceanside, CA. 30-98 degrees, and 45-80deg. about 95% of the time.

"The great workman of nature is time."   ,  "Genius is nothing but a great aptitude for patience."

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I do some experiments and learning in my garden with palms so you don't have to experience the pain! Look at my old threads to find various observations and tips!

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If I had known how little it took to keep these going... it would have made it.. Anyway it its gone now ...and I'd like to find another... any ideas where?

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Zone 10a at best after 2007 AND 2013, on SW facing hill, 1 1/2 miles from coast in Oceanside, CA. 30-98 degrees, and 45-80deg. about 95% of the time.

"The great workman of nature is time."   ,  "Genius is nothing but a great aptitude for patience."

-George-Louis Leclerc de Buffon-

I do some experiments and learning in my garden with palms so you don't have to experience the pain! Look at my old threads to find various observations and tips!

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BUT ..now I found this different one at the big box store.... what is it? common?

I like the yellow... :D

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Zone 10a at best after 2007 AND 2013, on SW facing hill, 1 1/2 miles from coast in Oceanside, CA. 30-98 degrees, and 45-80deg. about 95% of the time.

"The great workman of nature is time."   ,  "Genius is nothing but a great aptitude for patience."

-George-Louis Leclerc de Buffon-

I do some experiments and learning in my garden with palms so you don't have to experience the pain! Look at my old threads to find various observations and tips!

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Got this one too... but more common I think.

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Zone 10a at best after 2007 AND 2013, on SW facing hill, 1 1/2 miles from coast in Oceanside, CA. 30-98 degrees, and 45-80deg. about 95% of the time.

"The great workman of nature is time."   ,  "Genius is nothing but a great aptitude for patience."

-George-Louis Leclerc de Buffon-

I do some experiments and learning in my garden with palms so you don't have to experience the pain! Look at my old threads to find various observations and tips!

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William, your photo "skills" give me a whalin' headache!! ;)

Your first plants are Guzmania, probably G. 'Major'. Most of these are raised right over the hill at Kent's Nursery (big white greenhouses) off Osborne St. in Vista for the retail market.

Second plant looks to be a form of Vriesea and get it out of the sun pronto!

Lastly, Vriesea 'Splenriet', another shade lover. Both prefer slightly damp soil, not wet just damp.

 

 

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Thanks Greg... yes- my old camera was REALLY bad!

You think the one in post #3 is a Vriesea?... plus, it does not see much, if any sun under the magnifica

Zone 10a at best after 2007 AND 2013, on SW facing hill, 1 1/2 miles from coast in Oceanside, CA. 30-98 degrees, and 45-80deg. about 95% of the time.

"The great workman of nature is time."   ,  "Genius is nothing but a great aptitude for patience."

-George-Louis Leclerc de Buffon-

I do some experiments and learning in my garden with palms so you don't have to experience the pain! Look at my old threads to find various observations and tips!

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So....bumping this because I recently stumbled across a "rare or tropical" display at one of my big box stores... found some broms I don't normally see.. Everyone think the names are right?

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Zone 10a at best after 2007 AND 2013, on SW facing hill, 1 1/2 miles from coast in Oceanside, CA. 30-98 degrees, and 45-80deg. about 95% of the time.

"The great workman of nature is time."   ,  "Genius is nothing but a great aptitude for patience."

-George-Louis Leclerc de Buffon-

I do some experiments and learning in my garden with palms so you don't have to experience the pain! Look at my old threads to find various observations and tips!

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No name on this one....Funny part is that I'm just clueless enough on these I very well could have bought ones I have, but I don't think so...

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this one has a name?

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Zone 10a at best after 2007 AND 2013, on SW facing hill, 1 1/2 miles from coast in Oceanside, CA. 30-98 degrees, and 45-80deg. about 95% of the time.

"The great workman of nature is time."   ,  "Genius is nothing but a great aptitude for patience."

-George-Louis Leclerc de Buffon-

I do some experiments and learning in my garden with palms so you don't have to experience the pain! Look at my old threads to find various observations and tips!

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These 2 had the names on the side...

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I thought this is a common one, but then I thought maybe I only see it at collectors homes...dunno

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Zone 10a at best after 2007 AND 2013, on SW facing hill, 1 1/2 miles from coast in Oceanside, CA. 30-98 degrees, and 45-80deg. about 95% of the time.

"The great workman of nature is time."   ,  "Genius is nothing but a great aptitude for patience."

-George-Louis Leclerc de Buffon-

I do some experiments and learning in my garden with palms so you don't have to experience the pain! Look at my old threads to find various observations and tips!

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A couple more without names...

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I like this one due to the flower. I've noticed many look the same until they bloom..

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Speaking of which, many of my other broms are starting to flower..do they make viable seeds?

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"The great workman of nature is time."   ,  "Genius is nothing but a great aptitude for patience."

-George-Louis Leclerc de Buffon-

I do some experiments and learning in my garden with palms so you don't have to experience the pain! Look at my old threads to find various observations and tips!

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This one is fairly good size...but no name...

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Thanks to anyone with advice on these....

what exposure

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Shon?

Greg?

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Zone 10a at best after 2007 AND 2013, on SW facing hill, 1 1/2 miles from coast in Oceanside, CA. 30-98 degrees, and 45-80deg. about 95% of the time.

"The great workman of nature is time."   ,  "Genius is nothing but a great aptitude for patience."

-George-Louis Leclerc de Buffon-

I do some experiments and learning in my garden with palms so you don't have to experience the pain! Look at my old threads to find various observations and tips!

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Wow, Bill, look at choo! Bromeliad addict in the making! The names are impeccably correct -- Rainforest Flora is a reliable outfit and they know exactly what they are doing.

The first unknown is a Cryptanthus, possibly 'Ruby Red', but that's just a guess. ( Edit: I find Cryptanthus difficult to keep alive. Shade and consistent moisture needed, but not so much to rot the plant. Tricky.) The Neoregelias will need some sun to keep their color, but don't burn them. Like palms coming out of a greenhouse, they will need gentle acclimation. :)

Let me post this and I'll check out the rest.

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Between the beach and the bays, Point Loma, San Diego, California USA
and on a 300 year-old lava flow, Pahoa, Hawaii, 1/4 mile from the 2018 flow
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Okay, in post #10 it looks like you have a little Vriesea and the last two are Guzmania, but no idea of the exact names. The last Guzmania is a little past its prime. It's going to slowly dry up and die, but look for the offsets at the base, and when they get about 1/3 the size of the parent, you can carefully detach them and have clones just like the parent. No direct sun for those last three. Now Gonzer's turn to step in and correct all my mistakes... :rolleyes:

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and on a 300 year-old lava flow, Pahoa, Hawaii, 1/4 mile from the 2018 flow
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Thanx Kim. I figured one or two might be guzmania's...plus, i've learned to look for little pups if I can..

the one in #11 has a little offspring.. and the top one in #10 has 3 or 4 kids.. :D

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"The great workman of nature is time."   ,  "Genius is nothing but a great aptitude for patience."

-George-Louis Leclerc de Buffon-

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Kim, you did just fine! That varigated Neo looks like one of Skotak's creations.

(Bill, Chester Skotak does/did amazing things with Neo's). Put 'em out of the direct sun then "Let them go forth and multiply".

Kim, on a side note, another trip to John Arden's tomorrow. Yee Ha!

 

 

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So, are any of them rare as such? Or only so if you don't know where to find them?

I really like the tiger striping on the top one in post #7

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"The great workman of nature is time."   ,  "Genius is nothing but a great aptitude for patience."

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You have good taste, Bill. :winkie: That first one would be my pick of the litter as well. The Neoregelia pauciflora is more common, but hey, I like it. :) I really don't know much about 'rarity' in bromeliads. They reproduce so quickly, nothing stays rare for long.

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and on a 300 year-old lava flow, Pahoa, Hawaii, 1/4 mile from the 2018 flow
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I forgot I had put 2 others in a different spot. I think they are Guzmania"s ?

Nice orange color.. little pups already

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dunno, something different and actually less than $5 so why not?

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Zone 10a at best after 2007 AND 2013, on SW facing hill, 1 1/2 miles from coast in Oceanside, CA. 30-98 degrees, and 45-80deg. about 95% of the time.

"The great workman of nature is time."   ,  "Genius is nothing but a great aptitude for patience."

-George-Louis Leclerc de Buffon-

I do some experiments and learning in my garden with palms so you don't have to experience the pain! Look at my old threads to find various observations and tips!

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And then this one whatever it is seems REALLY happy and is pupping wildly... :)

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Zone 10a at best after 2007 AND 2013, on SW facing hill, 1 1/2 miles from coast in Oceanside, CA. 30-98 degrees, and 45-80deg. about 95% of the time.

"The great workman of nature is time."   ,  "Genius is nothing but a great aptitude for patience."

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I do some experiments and learning in my garden with palms so you don't have to experience the pain! Look at my old threads to find various observations and tips!

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Congratulations William, you are now the proud owner of your first Tillandsia..T. cyanea. Lower light, slightly moist and when the flowers pop out of the inflorescence...Voila!

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Wow! Thats pretty cool!

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REALLY?

Should I be seeking mental care somewhere about now?... got some others...

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Named ones..

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Zone 10a at best after 2007 AND 2013, on SW facing hill, 1 1/2 miles from coast in Oceanside, CA. 30-98 degrees, and 45-80deg. about 95% of the time.

"The great workman of nature is time."   ,  "Genius is nothing but a great aptitude for patience."

-George-Louis Leclerc de Buffon-

I do some experiments and learning in my garden with palms so you don't have to experience the pain! Look at my old threads to find various observations and tips!

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They brought in some more different ones..

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Although some of the others I left looked like ones I might have... but I really don't know...

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Zone 10a at best after 2007 AND 2013, on SW facing hill, 1 1/2 miles from coast in Oceanside, CA. 30-98 degrees, and 45-80deg. about 95% of the time.

"The great workman of nature is time."   ,  "Genius is nothing but a great aptitude for patience."

-George-Louis Leclerc de Buffon-

I do some experiments and learning in my garden with palms so you don't have to experience the pain! Look at my old threads to find various observations and tips!

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I also got some more "unnamed" ones..

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Its amazing what a little shade does for my appreciation of these..

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Zone 10a at best after 2007 AND 2013, on SW facing hill, 1 1/2 miles from coast in Oceanside, CA. 30-98 degrees, and 45-80deg. about 95% of the time.

"The great workman of nature is time."   ,  "Genius is nothing but a great aptitude for patience."

-George-Louis Leclerc de Buffon-

I do some experiments and learning in my garden with palms so you don't have to experience the pain! Look at my old threads to find various observations and tips!

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Although I think some would like some more light...

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I guess I'll have to just experiment!! I wonder if the first one in post#10 is the same as this... :blink:

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Zone 10a at best after 2007 AND 2013, on SW facing hill, 1 1/2 miles from coast in Oceanside, CA. 30-98 degrees, and 45-80deg. about 95% of the time.

"The great workman of nature is time."   ,  "Genius is nothing but a great aptitude for patience."

-George-Louis Leclerc de Buffon-

I do some experiments and learning in my garden with palms so you don't have to experience the pain! Look at my old threads to find various observations and tips!

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I wonder how many are duplicates... I can't always tell.. but I did get a few extra of those vresias... :)

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But the bloom on this older one opening up could prove interesting... :huh:

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Zone 10a at best after 2007 AND 2013, on SW facing hill, 1 1/2 miles from coast in Oceanside, CA. 30-98 degrees, and 45-80deg. about 95% of the time.

"The great workman of nature is time."   ,  "Genius is nothing but a great aptitude for patience."

-George-Louis Leclerc de Buffon-

I do some experiments and learning in my garden with palms so you don't have to experience the pain! Look at my old threads to find various observations and tips!

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test bump with photo download test... (for some reason had not been able to download pics from my Firefox browser for some time, new FF 4.0 just downloaded seems to have fixed it.. :D )

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Zone 10a at best after 2007 AND 2013, on SW facing hill, 1 1/2 miles from coast in Oceanside, CA. 30-98 degrees, and 45-80deg. about 95% of the time.

"The great workman of nature is time."   ,  "Genius is nothing but a great aptitude for patience."

-George-Louis Leclerc de Buffon-

I do some experiments and learning in my garden with palms so you don't have to experience the pain! Look at my old threads to find various observations and tips!

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yep, Hooray!

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"The great workman of nature is time."   ,  "Genius is nothing but a great aptitude for patience."

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I do some experiments and learning in my garden with palms so you don't have to experience the pain! Look at my old threads to find various observations and tips!

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I see you have picked up on how they enhance that houailou trunk, very complementary. Methinks you are hooked! :) Come to the meeting Saturday in Balboa Park. You get a free brom if you join. B)

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good job, Bill :) :). Welcome to another addiction.

Ari & Scott

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I see you have picked up on how they enhance that houailou trunk, very complementary. Methinks you are hooked! :) Come to the meeting Saturday in Balboa Park. You get a free brom if you join. B)

Thanks Kim. thats actually a "watermelon" macrocarpa.. but you are right..they look good there...

As for Sat, I'll be helping out at Phils... :( .. . :)

Thanks to Gene and Ari..it is starting.. mostly Shon is at fault. :P

Zone 10a at best after 2007 AND 2013, on SW facing hill, 1 1/2 miles from coast in Oceanside, CA. 30-98 degrees, and 45-80deg. about 95% of the time.

"The great workman of nature is time."   ,  "Genius is nothing but a great aptitude for patience."

-George-Louis Leclerc de Buffon-

I do some experiments and learning in my garden with palms so you don't have to experience the pain! Look at my old threads to find various observations and tips!

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Glad to see your interest in Brom's Bill. J try and stick with Neo's cause the flower stays below the cup, on the few freezing nights that we have I must cover them all up with 3 or 4 layers of bed sheets, hence the problem with the tall flowers of the other species, Ed

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stick with Neo's cause the flower stays below the cup

Ed, that's too easy for Bill. We'll get him hooked on Alcanterias. All seriousness aside Bill, don't forget that with your new Vrieseas, Guzmanias and Neo's you're going to have to do some overhead watering at times to make sure the cups have some water in them.

 

 

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yeah, OK :blink:

Zone 10a at best after 2007 AND 2013, on SW facing hill, 1 1/2 miles from coast in Oceanside, CA. 30-98 degrees, and 45-80deg. about 95% of the time.

"The great workman of nature is time."   ,  "Genius is nothing but a great aptitude for patience."

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I do some experiments and learning in my garden with palms so you don't have to experience the pain! Look at my old threads to find various observations and tips!

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My own interest in Brom's is recent given a current fascination for Peruvian fauna and flora. I saw a few in planters around Lima, but the climate here in Arequipa is too harsh. That is, until you go even higher..

"Queen of the Andes" (Puya raimondii). See a striking example: here

"Puya raimondii is the largest known bromeliad, forming a rosette around 3 meters high and reaching 10 to 12 meters in flower. Legend has it that the plant takes 150 years to flower, whereupon it dies without forming offsets. More recent estimates reduce the time for maturity to between 80 and 100 years (Rauh, 1970-73). Puya raimondii grows in the Andes of Peru and Bolivia at around 4,000 meters, and is said to be threatened with extinction (for a description of a conservation project in Bolivia, see Musch, 1997). A specimen flowered in the University of California-Berkeley Botanical Garden from August through November of 1986 - in the somewhat milder California climate the plant took only 28 years to flower from seed (Lineham, 1987)" Source: http://anwyl.com/puya_photos.htm

I understand that Puya raimondii flowers during May and October and reproduction occurs by seed distribution only. A single inflorescence is said to hold 6.4 million seeds. In this PDF entitled, "Viability and germination of seeds of Puya raimondi" there are some detailed images of the seed: http://www.scielo.or...n1/v11n1a09.pdf

I'm wondering when the inflorescence begins to shed its seed, based on the flowering times. Again, I'm new to bromeliads. Any ideas? smilie.gif

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yeah, OK :blink:

Hey! Don't be making faces at me!

John's on the right track with the Puya raimondii. That would be a great showcase plant for all your palms. Unfortunately it won't grow here.

 

 

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The face is for the watering, names and fertilising..not you... :lol:

I'm happy, I have at least learned to "submerge" the pots in the mulch.. If I had done that to the brom at the beginning of this thread, I suspect I would have had pups by now!

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Found another..... No Tag.. Name?

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Zone 10a at best after 2007 AND 2013, on SW facing hill, 1 1/2 miles from coast in Oceanside, CA. 30-98 degrees, and 45-80deg. about 95% of the time.

"The great workman of nature is time."   ,  "Genius is nothing but a great aptitude for patience."

-George-Louis Leclerc de Buffon-

I do some experiments and learning in my garden with palms so you don't have to experience the pain! Look at my old threads to find various observations and tips!

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