Jump to content
IMPORTANT ANNOUNCEMENT ABOUT LOGGING IN ×
  • WELCOME GUEST

    It looks as if you are viewing PalmTalk as an unregistered Guest.

    Please consider registering so as to take better advantage of our vast knowledge base and friendly community.  By registering you will gain access to many features - among them are our powerful Search feature, the ability to Private Message other Users, and be able to post and/or answer questions from all over the world. It is completely free, no “catches,” and you will have complete control over how you wish to use this site.

    PalmTalk is sponsored by the International Palm Society. - an organization dedicated to learning everything about and enjoying palm trees (and their companion plants) while conserving endangered palm species and habitat worldwide. Please take the time to know us all better and register.

    guest Renda04.jpg

Empirical data from the North Texas Freeze of 2011


TonyDFW

Recommended Posts

Here is some weather data for the temps and duration of freezing weather and the resulting palm damage to Central city Dallas palms, as of Feb 18th 2010. During the freeze we got 2 inches of ice, followed by 6 inches of snow a couple of days later.

Feb 1 the front came in:
High 41 21 24 28 51F
Low 15 15 16 19 18F

On Feb 13:
High 72 73 77 73 76 83F
Low 37 48 57 61 62 63F

The temps through the rest of Feb should have daily highs in the 70Fs.
TonysGarden2011006-1.jpg
During the event
TonysGarden2011010-1.jpg
on Feb 17th
TonysGarden2011009-3.jpg
After my trimming on Feb 18th.
TonysGarden2011003.jpg
ButiaXJubea during event

Link to comment
Share on other sites

TonysGarden2011013.jpg

ButiaXJubea on Feb 18th

TonysGarden2011007.jpg

Brahea armata during event

TonysGarden2011010-2.jpg

Brahea armata on Feb 18th.

TonysGarden2010037.jpg

Last winter's damage shown in Spring after a brief dip to 15F.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

100APPLEIMG_0577.jpg

Last winter after I trimmed off the dead fronds (it was about Feb 0f 2010.)

TonysGarden2010035-4.jpg

This much foliage had returned by the end of the year of 2010. One growing season's growth in Dallas. Will it do it again this year? or will they die?

Both winters reached the same absolute low, but this years prolonged freeze caused much more damage, yet to be fully determined.

Next time you want to complain about YOUR weather just think of how good you have it compared to us.

My conservative tastes dictated that I only plant the most hardy for my area so I know things will probably look great in a few months.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Your place looks better than mine. My Brahea armatas still look good, but everything else that I didn't protect that I see in your photo is completely or partially defoliated. Did it rain before the front came through in Dallas, or did everything fall in frozen form? I'm beginning to think the rain we got right before the front that soaked in deep and froze caused more damage than the cold or wind. I have plants right next to the house that were sheltered from the wind that are just as damaged as plants of the same species that are in exposed locations, so I'm beginning to think the culprit was the rain freezing inside. Rain is a lot rarer here than cold or wind, especially in Dec to Feb, so I guess if that is the culprit it would be a little encouraging. Also noticing that the plants that aren't damaged seem to share one common trait, their growing points are below ground where the rain couldn't freeze because the ground was too warm.

Martin Farris, San Angelo, TX

San Angelo Cold Hardy Palms and Cycads

Jul - 92F/69F, Jan - 55F/31F

Lows:

02-03: 18F;

03-04: 19F;

04-05: 17F;

05-06: 11F;

06-07: 13F;

07-08: 14F 147.5 Freezing Degree-Hours http://www.palmtalk.org/forum/index.php?sh...ee+hours\;

08-09: 23F;

09-10: 12F 467.6 Freezing Degree Hours, Average Temperature During Freeze 24.2F;

10-11: 13F 1,059.5 Freezing Degree Hours with Strong Winds/Rain/Snow/Sleet, Average Temperature During Freeze 19.4F;

Record low -4F in 1989 (High of 36F that p.m.) 1,125.2 freezing degree hours, Average Temperature During Freeze 13.6F;

Record Freeze 1983: 2,300.3 Freezing Degree Hours with a low of 5F, Average Temperature During Freeze 13.7F.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

We did have rain before, and a quick turn over to ice. Very strong winds also.

The cold was intense. 48 hours with temps at or below 20F°, for a high and 15F° for a low.

Not a quick dip to 15F° and back up.

This current couple of weeks in the 70°F may also affect the results. I don't know of anyplace in the world that has the extreme weather of North Central Texas.

Martin, post some pictures if you get a chance. Thanks

Link to comment
Share on other sites

We did have rain before, and a quick turn over to ice. Very strong winds also.

The cold was intense. 48 hours with temps at or below 20F°, for a high and 15F° for a low.

Not a quick dip to 15F° and back up.

This current couple of weeks in the 70°F may also affect the results. I don't know of anyplace in the world that has the extreme weather of North Central Texas.

Martin, post some pictures if you get a chance. Thanks

I'll try to post some this weekend. It sounds like you had identical conditions to us, but the damage here looks much worse. Of course, we have been having highs in the upper 80's and it wasn't until we got that hot that a lot of the damage became apparent. Now even the Ceriferas are showing damage, they looked fine up until a few days ago when it got hot, and the large Jubaeas are mostly defoliated now too. The only place with more extreme weather than North Central Texas, is West Texas. 2/2 and 2/9 we had a high below freezing, 2/16 the high was over 80F.

Martin Farris, San Angelo, TX

San Angelo Cold Hardy Palms and Cycads

Jul - 92F/69F, Jan - 55F/31F

Lows:

02-03: 18F;

03-04: 19F;

04-05: 17F;

05-06: 11F;

06-07: 13F;

07-08: 14F 147.5 Freezing Degree-Hours http://www.palmtalk.org/forum/index.php?sh...ee+hours\;

08-09: 23F;

09-10: 12F 467.6 Freezing Degree Hours, Average Temperature During Freeze 24.2F;

10-11: 13F 1,059.5 Freezing Degree Hours with Strong Winds/Rain/Snow/Sleet, Average Temperature During Freeze 19.4F;

Record low -4F in 1989 (High of 36F that p.m.) 1,125.2 freezing degree hours, Average Temperature During Freeze 13.6F;

Record Freeze 1983: 2,300.3 Freezing Degree Hours with a low of 5F, Average Temperature During Freeze 13.7F.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

I just got absolutely obliterated. The only things that really did well are the following:

Big Jub ---- Absolutely untouched, spears are pushing along

Jub X Queen --- Small strap leaf plant that was covered ---- Some minor leaf spotting has shown up after all the warm weather

Jubutygrus (Hopper) --- Strap leaf plant that was covered --- Nothing (My Pinnate Schafer Jubutygrus had a lot of burned fronds, but the spear is tight)

Silver Serenoa --- No damage, no protection, spears are tight and pushing

T. fortunei and Sabals --- tough cookies, some of the Sabals have burned leaves, but you'd pull the plant out of the dirt to get the spear.

Everything else has coughed up spears. --- Treated with Copper, Banrot and prayer.

I experienced pretty much what Tony experienced plus maybe a degree or two. I don't think my palms appreciated having snow on their fronds for 4-5 days.

Tony: Also, why are you so quick to cut all the fronds off of everything. Some of those fronds had a little green on them. Wouldn't you want the minimal sugars they provide.

Longview, Texas :: Record Low: -5F, Feb. 16, 2021 :: Borderline 8A/8B :: '06-'07: 18F / '07-'08: 21F / '08-'09: 21F / '09-'10: 14F / '10-'11: 15F / '11-'12: 24F / '12-'13: 23F / '13-'14: 15F / '14-'15: 20F / '15-'16: 27F / '16-'17: 15F / '17-'18: 8F / '18-'19: 23F / '19-'20: 19F / '20-'21: -5F / '21-'22: 20F / '22-'23: 6F

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Tony,

thanks for the detailed report.

As for "complaining about the weather, "let me point out that we set an al-time record (by a lot) of -22 F (-30 C) here in Bixby.

I had never in my life experienced even -20 C, even when I lived up north.

We're busy setting record high lows currently. Nice warm up! --Erik

Terdal Farm, Tulsa OK, USA http://www.terdalfarm.com/

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Tony,

thanks for the detailed report.

As for "complaining about the weather, "let me point out that we set an al-time record (by a lot) of -22 F (-30 C) here in Bixby.

I had never in my life experienced even -20 C, even when I lived up north.

We're busy setting record high lows currently. Nice warm up! --Erik

-22F! I thought it got cold when it got to 19F here!

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Tony I was wondering why you cut off the dead leaves from the Washingtonia - and was it a hybrid? Mine doesn't have any green on it at all.

Odessa, TX  Z8a

NE edge Chihuahuan Desert

Alt 2800 ft

El Jardin de Quixote

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Awesome cold hardy garden. Wishing you a speedy recovery and an early spring. :)

Glenn

Modesto, California

 

Sunset Zone 14   USDA 9b

 

Low Temp. 19F/-7C 12-20-1990         

 

High Temp. 111F/43C 07-23-2006

 

Annual Average Precipitation 13.12 inches/yr.

 

             

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Jim,

I'm right there with you. I'd love to move down to your neck of the woods.

For what it is worth, I protected the heck out of my palms and may be able to save them. Even if some have to re-grow from the base.

Terdal Farm, Tulsa OK, USA http://www.terdalfarm.com/

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Computer problems last weekend, so just getting around to posting the pics. Not pretty. Still getting worse as temperatures get warmer. 90F right now with 30-45 mph winds from the SW. Humidity 11%. Anybody think I need to worry about fungus? Hasn't rained since the freeze.

Sabal mexicana - partially defoliated

post-972-039409400 1298844024_thumb.jpg

Sabal domingensis - defoliated, spear tight

post-972-089696700 1298844094_thumb.jpg

Sabal rosei - newest fronds fried, spear tight

post-972-080028100 1298844147_thumb.jpg

Sabal uresana - partially defoliated, spear tight

post-972-043341200 1298844217_thumb.jpg

Sabal palmetto - mostly fine

post-972-084112200 1298844289_thumb.jpg

Sabal causiarum - defoliated, spear tight

post-972-084775200 1298844351_thumb.jpg

Sabal guatamalensis - defoliated, spear tight

post-972-080924400 1298844421_thumb.jpg

Martin Farris, San Angelo, TX

San Angelo Cold Hardy Palms and Cycads

Jul - 92F/69F, Jan - 55F/31F

Lows:

02-03: 18F;

03-04: 19F;

04-05: 17F;

05-06: 11F;

06-07: 13F;

07-08: 14F 147.5 Freezing Degree-Hours http://www.palmtalk.org/forum/index.php?sh...ee+hours\;

08-09: 23F;

09-10: 12F 467.6 Freezing Degree Hours, Average Temperature During Freeze 24.2F;

10-11: 13F 1,059.5 Freezing Degree Hours with Strong Winds/Rain/Snow/Sleet, Average Temperature During Freeze 19.4F;

Record low -4F in 1989 (High of 36F that p.m.) 1,125.2 freezing degree hours, Average Temperature During Freeze 13.6F;

Record Freeze 1983: 2,300.3 Freezing Degree Hours with a low of 5F, Average Temperature During Freeze 13.7F.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Sabal riverside - defoliated, spear tight

post-972-042715500 1298844847_thumb.jpg

Sabal bermudana - defoliated, spear tight

post-972-038286700 1298844902_thumb.jpg

Sabal x texensis - undamaged

post-972-002208300 1298844951_thumb.jpg

Sabal etonia - defoliated, already growing new fronds

post-972-079504000 1298845027_thumb.jpg

Sabal minor - you're joking right? These are in a protected spot, but even the ones in exposed locations are undamaged.

post-972-003051300 1298845085_thumb.jpg

Livistona boninensis - defoliated, haven't checked the spear

post-972-085243800 1298845293_thumb.jpg

Martin Farris, San Angelo, TX

San Angelo Cold Hardy Palms and Cycads

Jul - 92F/69F, Jan - 55F/31F

Lows:

02-03: 18F;

03-04: 19F;

04-05: 17F;

05-06: 11F;

06-07: 13F;

07-08: 14F 147.5 Freezing Degree-Hours http://www.palmtalk.org/forum/index.php?sh...ee+hours\;

08-09: 23F;

09-10: 12F 467.6 Freezing Degree Hours, Average Temperature During Freeze 24.2F;

10-11: 13F 1,059.5 Freezing Degree Hours with Strong Winds/Rain/Snow/Sleet, Average Temperature During Freeze 19.4F;

Record low -4F in 1989 (High of 36F that p.m.) 1,125.2 freezing degree hours, Average Temperature During Freeze 13.6F;

Record Freeze 1983: 2,300.3 Freezing Degree Hours with a low of 5F, Average Temperature During Freeze 13.7F.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Livistona decora - Defoliated, spear pulled

post-972-059479600 1298845404_thumb.jpg

Butia x Parajubaea - defoliated, spear pulled

post-972-022733800 1298845453_thumb.jpg

Butia paraguayensis - spear pulled

post-972-081224600 1298845510_thumb.jpg

Butia paraguayensis x Syagrus - defoliated, spear pulled

post-972-055565300 1298845585_thumb.jpg

Martin Farris, San Angelo, TX

San Angelo Cold Hardy Palms and Cycads

Jul - 92F/69F, Jan - 55F/31F

Lows:

02-03: 18F;

03-04: 19F;

04-05: 17F;

05-06: 11F;

06-07: 13F;

07-08: 14F 147.5 Freezing Degree-Hours http://www.palmtalk.org/forum/index.php?sh...ee+hours\;

08-09: 23F;

09-10: 12F 467.6 Freezing Degree Hours, Average Temperature During Freeze 24.2F;

10-11: 13F 1,059.5 Freezing Degree Hours with Strong Winds/Rain/Snow/Sleet, Average Temperature During Freeze 19.4F;

Record low -4F in 1989 (High of 36F that p.m.) 1,125.2 freezing degree hours, Average Temperature During Freeze 13.6F;

Record Freeze 1983: 2,300.3 Freezing Degree Hours with a low of 5F, Average Temperature During Freeze 13.7F.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Butia x Jubaea - newest fronds fried

post-972-057668900 1298845733_thumb.jpg

Silver Butia (Butia yatay?) - looks fine, newest fronds possibly damaged, but hard to see from the ground

post-972-055444000 1298845873_thumb.jpg

Clumping Butia - newest fronds fried, spears pulled

post-972-006330000 1298845930_thumb.jpg

Butia capitata - astonishingly bad damage on all, most completely defoliated and spears pulled even on trunking specimens

post-972-029970600 1298845987_thumb.jpg

Butia capitata x Syagrus - defoliated, spear tight

post-972-098813800 1298846047_thumb.jpg

Martin Farris, San Angelo, TX

San Angelo Cold Hardy Palms and Cycads

Jul - 92F/69F, Jan - 55F/31F

Lows:

02-03: 18F;

03-04: 19F;

04-05: 17F;

05-06: 11F;

06-07: 13F;

07-08: 14F 147.5 Freezing Degree-Hours http://www.palmtalk.org/forum/index.php?sh...ee+hours\;

08-09: 23F;

09-10: 12F 467.6 Freezing Degree Hours, Average Temperature During Freeze 24.2F;

10-11: 13F 1,059.5 Freezing Degree Hours with Strong Winds/Rain/Snow/Sleet, Average Temperature During Freeze 19.4F;

Record low -4F in 1989 (High of 36F that p.m.) 1,125.2 freezing degree hours, Average Temperature During Freeze 13.6F;

Record Freeze 1983: 2,300.3 Freezing Degree Hours with a low of 5F, Average Temperature During Freeze 13.7F.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

All of my torched Beccariophoenix alfrediis have had spear pulls(21F, below freezing for several days, Queens completely defoliated) except one...not really expecting recovery though. Of course it doesn't compare to all the damage above, but hopefully most of your palms will recover.

:) Jonathan

Jonathan

Katy, TX (Zone 9a)

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Butia yatay - defoliated, spear pulled

post-972-031554700 1298846211_thumb.jpg

Butia yatay x Syagrus - defoliated, spear pulled

post-972-047057500 1298846263_thumb.jpg

Butia eriospatha - spear pulled

post-972-007445800 1298846338_thumb.jpg

Butia archeri - defoliated, spear pulled

post-972-080431000 1298846421_thumb.jpg

Serenoa repens (silver) - defoliated, spear pulled

post-972-086534400 1298846494_thumb.jpg

Martin Farris, San Angelo, TX

San Angelo Cold Hardy Palms and Cycads

Jul - 92F/69F, Jan - 55F/31F

Lows:

02-03: 18F;

03-04: 19F;

04-05: 17F;

05-06: 11F;

06-07: 13F;

07-08: 14F 147.5 Freezing Degree-Hours http://www.palmtalk.org/forum/index.php?sh...ee+hours\;

08-09: 23F;

09-10: 12F 467.6 Freezing Degree Hours, Average Temperature During Freeze 24.2F;

10-11: 13F 1,059.5 Freezing Degree Hours with Strong Winds/Rain/Snow/Sleet, Average Temperature During Freeze 19.4F;

Record low -4F in 1989 (High of 36F that p.m.) 1,125.2 freezing degree hours, Average Temperature During Freeze 13.6F;

Record Freeze 1983: 2,300.3 Freezing Degree Hours with a low of 5F, Average Temperature During Freeze 13.7F.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Did you not know there is a place for weather threads... :unsure::hmm::)

This is just one of many threads in the wrong place...

Edited by calyptrocalyx&licuala freck

M.H.Edwards

"Living in the Tropic's

And loving it".............. smilie.gif

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Washingtonia filibusta - defoliated, some already pushing new growth

post-972-023738300 1298846602_thumb.jpg

Washingtonia filifera - defoliated

post-972-016927900 1298846667_thumb.jpg

Nannorhops ritchiana - one bronzed, other defoliated and spears pulled

post-972-049064200 1298846752_thumb.jpgpost-972-006939500 1298846804_thumb.jpg

Trithrinax campestris - tough as nails, and as pleasant to accidentally step on

post-972-031185100 1298846865_thumb.jpg

Martin Farris, San Angelo, TX

San Angelo Cold Hardy Palms and Cycads

Jul - 92F/69F, Jan - 55F/31F

Lows:

02-03: 18F;

03-04: 19F;

04-05: 17F;

05-06: 11F;

06-07: 13F;

07-08: 14F 147.5 Freezing Degree-Hours http://www.palmtalk.org/forum/index.php?sh...ee+hours\;

08-09: 23F;

09-10: 12F 467.6 Freezing Degree Hours, Average Temperature During Freeze 24.2F;

10-11: 13F 1,059.5 Freezing Degree Hours with Strong Winds/Rain/Snow/Sleet, Average Temperature During Freeze 19.4F;

Record low -4F in 1989 (High of 36F that p.m.) 1,125.2 freezing degree hours, Average Temperature During Freeze 13.6F;

Record Freeze 1983: 2,300.3 Freezing Degree Hours with a low of 5F, Average Temperature During Freeze 13.7F.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Trithrinax acanthicoma - defoliated, spear tight

post-972-082376900 1298847024_thumb.jpg

Chamaerops humilis - can't believe all of these were mostly defoliated

post-972-089765000 1298847083_thumb.jpg

Cerifera - even these are losing their fronds as it gets warmer

post-972-063922400 1298847172_thumb.jpg

Chamaedorea microspadix - some defoliated, some only lightly damaged

post-972-093497900 1298847256_thumb.jpg

Chamaedorea radicalis - petioles collapsed

post-972-015670600 1298847338_thumb.jpg

Allagoptera arenaria - mostly defoliated even with protection, didn't protect it until after the snow which it doesn't like

post-972-022081800 1298847394_thumb.jpg

Martin Farris, San Angelo, TX

San Angelo Cold Hardy Palms and Cycads

Jul - 92F/69F, Jan - 55F/31F

Lows:

02-03: 18F;

03-04: 19F;

04-05: 17F;

05-06: 11F;

06-07: 13F;

07-08: 14F 147.5 Freezing Degree-Hours http://www.palmtalk.org/forum/index.php?sh...ee+hours\;

08-09: 23F;

09-10: 12F 467.6 Freezing Degree Hours, Average Temperature During Freeze 24.2F;

10-11: 13F 1,059.5 Freezing Degree Hours with Strong Winds/Rain/Snow/Sleet, Average Temperature During Freeze 19.4F;

Record low -4F in 1989 (High of 36F that p.m.) 1,125.2 freezing degree hours, Average Temperature During Freeze 13.6F;

Record Freeze 1983: 2,300.3 Freezing Degree Hours with a low of 5F, Average Temperature During Freeze 13.7F.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Jubaea chilensis - damage variable, some mostly defoliated, while others lightly damaged

post-972-031588900 1298847543_thumb.jpgpost-972-003507100 1298847625_thumb.jpg

Brahea armata - the most cold hardy actual tree, most undamaged or slightly damaged

post-972-045896800 1298847677_thumb.jpg

Brahea aculeata - defoliated

post-972-071567900 1298847779_thumb.jpg

Brahea moorei - spear pulled and petioles collapsed

post-972-097130600 1298847839_thumb.jpg

Brahea edulis - defoliated

post-972-062294100 1298847918_thumb.jpg

Brahea clara - defoliated

post-972-067235600 1298847973_thumb.jpg

Martin Farris, San Angelo, TX

San Angelo Cold Hardy Palms and Cycads

Jul - 92F/69F, Jan - 55F/31F

Lows:

02-03: 18F;

03-04: 19F;

04-05: 17F;

05-06: 11F;

06-07: 13F;

07-08: 14F 147.5 Freezing Degree-Hours http://www.palmtalk.org/forum/index.php?sh...ee+hours\;

08-09: 23F;

09-10: 12F 467.6 Freezing Degree Hours, Average Temperature During Freeze 24.2F;

10-11: 13F 1,059.5 Freezing Degree Hours with Strong Winds/Rain/Snow/Sleet, Average Temperature During Freeze 19.4F;

Record low -4F in 1989 (High of 36F that p.m.) 1,125.2 freezing degree hours, Average Temperature During Freeze 13.6F;

Record Freeze 1983: 2,300.3 Freezing Degree Hours with a low of 5F, Average Temperature During Freeze 13.7F.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

OMG!! you've lose a lot of palms! sorry! the cold were hard!

A lot of my palms have been defoliated before and recovered, so only time will tell how many are actually dead. Around September I will post all the info in the freeze damage threads showing how everything recovered or didn't as the case may be. It isn't going to look pretty around here for awhile though. Still have the Trachys and Phoenix photos to post, but will have to finish up tomorrow. My wife's birthday is today and we are going out.

Martin Farris, San Angelo, TX

San Angelo Cold Hardy Palms and Cycads

Jul - 92F/69F, Jan - 55F/31F

Lows:

02-03: 18F;

03-04: 19F;

04-05: 17F;

05-06: 11F;

06-07: 13F;

07-08: 14F 147.5 Freezing Degree-Hours http://www.palmtalk.org/forum/index.php?sh...ee+hours\;

08-09: 23F;

09-10: 12F 467.6 Freezing Degree Hours, Average Temperature During Freeze 24.2F;

10-11: 13F 1,059.5 Freezing Degree Hours with Strong Winds/Rain/Snow/Sleet, Average Temperature During Freeze 19.4F;

Record low -4F in 1989 (High of 36F that p.m.) 1,125.2 freezing degree hours, Average Temperature During Freeze 13.6F;

Record Freeze 1983: 2,300.3 Freezing Degree Hours with a low of 5F, Average Temperature During Freeze 13.7F.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Martin, what an incredible collection.

I'm seeing additional damage. My brahea mooreii had it's first spear pull ever and most of the foliage is gone. C. Humilis mostly defoliated. Yet cerifera specimen 10 feet away undamaged. 2 Butia capitata large trunks had their first ever defoliation. More silver butia undamaged. Brahma armata looking fantastic. One of my sabal uresana very blue is mostly defoliated. All the filigree and filibusta are defoliated, but are growing rapidly already. I haven't seen this much damage since 1996 when we got down to 11F. All trachys looking great with older fronds showing damage. Sable mexican a showing leaf damage. S. Minor, R. Hystrix, brazoria county, s. Louisiana undamaged

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Martin, what an incredible collection.

I'm seeing additional damage. My brahea mooreii had it's first spear pull ever and most of the foliage is gone. C. Humilis mostly defoliated. Yet cerifera specimen 10 feet away undamaged. 2 Butia capitata large trunks had their first ever defoliation. More silver butia undamaged. Brahma armata looking fantastic. One of my sabal uresana very blue is mostly defoliated. All the filigree and filibusta are defoliated, but are growing rapidly already. I haven't seen this much damage since 1996 when we got down to 11F. All trachys looking great with older fronds showing damage. Sable mexican a showing leaf damage. S. Minor, R. Hystrix, brazoria county, s. Louisiana undamaged

My Ceriferas looked great until we started getting into the high 80's, then their fronds started showing damage.

Martin Farris, San Angelo, TX

San Angelo Cold Hardy Palms and Cycads

Jul - 92F/69F, Jan - 55F/31F

Lows:

02-03: 18F;

03-04: 19F;

04-05: 17F;

05-06: 11F;

06-07: 13F;

07-08: 14F 147.5 Freezing Degree-Hours http://www.palmtalk.org/forum/index.php?sh...ee+hours\;

08-09: 23F;

09-10: 12F 467.6 Freezing Degree Hours, Average Temperature During Freeze 24.2F;

10-11: 13F 1,059.5 Freezing Degree Hours with Strong Winds/Rain/Snow/Sleet, Average Temperature During Freeze 19.4F;

Record low -4F in 1989 (High of 36F that p.m.) 1,125.2 freezing degree hours, Average Temperature During Freeze 13.6F;

Record Freeze 1983: 2,300.3 Freezing Degree Hours with a low of 5F, Average Temperature During Freeze 13.7F.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Brahea dulcis (blue and green forms) - defoliated, spears tight, didn't even get these in the ground yet

post-972-007166500 1298908770_thumb.jpg

Phoenix acaulis - defoliated long before the big freeze by temps in the low 20's and heavy frost, spear tight

post-972-046896200 1298908870_thumb.jpg

Phoenix sylvestris - defoliated, spear pulled

post-972-063263100 1298908925_thumb.jpg

Phoenix dactylifera - defoliated, spear pulled

post-972-042370500 1298909001_thumb.jpg

Phoenix humilis - defoliated long before the big freeze by temps in the low 20's and heavy frost, spear pulled

post-972-036595900 1298909104_thumb.jpg

Martin Farris, San Angelo, TX

San Angelo Cold Hardy Palms and Cycads

Jul - 92F/69F, Jan - 55F/31F

Lows:

02-03: 18F;

03-04: 19F;

04-05: 17F;

05-06: 11F;

06-07: 13F;

07-08: 14F 147.5 Freezing Degree-Hours http://www.palmtalk.org/forum/index.php?sh...ee+hours\;

08-09: 23F;

09-10: 12F 467.6 Freezing Degree Hours, Average Temperature During Freeze 24.2F;

10-11: 13F 1,059.5 Freezing Degree Hours with Strong Winds/Rain/Snow/Sleet, Average Temperature During Freeze 19.4F;

Record low -4F in 1989 (High of 36F that p.m.) 1,125.2 freezing degree hours, Average Temperature During Freeze 13.6F;

Record Freeze 1983: 2,300.3 Freezing Degree Hours with a low of 5F, Average Temperature During Freeze 13.7F.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Phoenix theophrasti - defoliated, spear pulled

post-972-058143100 1298909223_thumb.jpg

Phoenix canariensis - forgot to take a photo, but you can imagine, defoliated, spears still tight

Rhapidophyllum hystrix - minor damage, some spears pulled

post-972-095633600 1298909286_thumb.jpg

Trachycarpus wagnerianus - newest fronds damaged, spear tight

post-972-052414000 1298909378_thumb.jpg

Trachycarpus fortunei - newest fronds damaged, spear tight

post-972-098820900 1298909431_thumb.jpg

Trachycarpus takil - no damage, the very best Trachy IMHO for cold hardiness

post-972-061586100 1298909506_thumb.jpg

Didn't take photos of the cycads, but they are all defoliated.

Martin Farris, San Angelo, TX

San Angelo Cold Hardy Palms and Cycads

Jul - 92F/69F, Jan - 55F/31F

Lows:

02-03: 18F;

03-04: 19F;

04-05: 17F;

05-06: 11F;

06-07: 13F;

07-08: 14F 147.5 Freezing Degree-Hours http://www.palmtalk.org/forum/index.php?sh...ee+hours\;

08-09: 23F;

09-10: 12F 467.6 Freezing Degree Hours, Average Temperature During Freeze 24.2F;

10-11: 13F 1,059.5 Freezing Degree Hours with Strong Winds/Rain/Snow/Sleet, Average Temperature During Freeze 19.4F;

Record low -4F in 1989 (High of 36F that p.m.) 1,125.2 freezing degree hours, Average Temperature During Freeze 13.6F;

Record Freeze 1983: 2,300.3 Freezing Degree Hours with a low of 5F, Average Temperature During Freeze 13.7F.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Hi TonyDFW. Looks like your W. filiferas were hardest hit. Is that right? I am a newbie. May I trouble you to list all the other hardy palm species in your yard? Thanks! Andrei

Andrei W. Konradi, Burlingame, California.  Vicarious appreciator of palms in other people's gardens and in habitat

Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • 3 months later...

Any updates on all those palms Martin? It has been about 3 months and I have had a couple just now show new spears on them, but our low was only 17, with three days just below 32.

Ryan

Current Texas Gardening Zone 9a, Mean (1999-2024): 22F Low/104F High. Yearly Precipitation 39.17 inches.

Extremes: Low Min 4F 2021, 13.8F 2024. High Max 112F 2011/2023, Precipitation Max 58 inches 2015, Lowest 19 Inches 2011.

Weather Station: https://www.wunderground.com/dashboard/pws/KTXCOLLE465

Ryan (Paleoclimatologist Since 4 billion Years ago, Meteorologist/Earth Scientist/Physicist Since 1995, Savy Horticulturist Since Birth.)

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Any updates on all those palms Martin? It has been about 3 months and I have had a couple just now show new spears on them, but our low was only 17, with three days just below 32.

Ryan

It has been a mixed bag out here.

Butias - larger ones recovering nicely, smaller ones (15 gallon or smaller) dead;

Mule Palms - I think all are dead except possibly the big one I got from Mark, but I'm not that optimistic on it either;

Sabals - ones established in the ground are fine, most in containers in the nursery are dead or at least haven't started pushing yet;

Trachys - the cold wasn't too bad on them, but the hot and dry weather we have been having has been brutal and I am losing some to the heat;

Jubaeas - larger ones appear to have all survived, but anything under 24" box size is either dead or at least not pushing yet;

Washingtonias - filiferas fine and fully recovered, filibustas and robustas aren't growing yet but most aren't rotten either;

Allagopteras - all fine and recovering;

Macrozamias - fully recovered;

Ceratozamias - fully recovered;

Dioons - one recovered, other hasn't flushed yet but doesn't look dead either;

Cycas - revoluta both look dead, panzihuaensis flushing for the 2nd time this year;

Phoenix - 4 out of 5 CIDP's recovering, acaulis recovering, everything else looks dead;

Livistonas - pretty sure all are dead;

Rhapidophyllum hystrix - fine;

Braheas - some recovering, some not, species doesn't seem to matter, but size sure does;

Chamaerops - most fine, but some trunks not recovering yet or dead;

Chamaedorea - all but one radicalis dead, microspadix survived but they are in a more sheltered location;

Nannorhops - recovering;

Trithrinax - campestris undamaged, acanthicoma spears dead but still tight and not growing;

Serenoa repens - recovering.

Considering the severity of the freeze, surprisingly good result. Will be replacing some things with more cold hardy species, or larger specimens that can handle the cold better.

Martin Farris, San Angelo, TX

San Angelo Cold Hardy Palms and Cycads

Jul - 92F/69F, Jan - 55F/31F

Lows:

02-03: 18F;

03-04: 19F;

04-05: 17F;

05-06: 11F;

06-07: 13F;

07-08: 14F 147.5 Freezing Degree-Hours http://www.palmtalk.org/forum/index.php?sh...ee+hours\;

08-09: 23F;

09-10: 12F 467.6 Freezing Degree Hours, Average Temperature During Freeze 24.2F;

10-11: 13F 1,059.5 Freezing Degree Hours with Strong Winds/Rain/Snow/Sleet, Average Temperature During Freeze 19.4F;

Record low -4F in 1989 (High of 36F that p.m.) 1,125.2 freezing degree hours, Average Temperature During Freeze 13.6F;

Record Freeze 1983: 2,300.3 Freezing Degree Hours with a low of 5F, Average Temperature During Freeze 13.7F.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Here is a June update from Dallas

During the 4 consecutive days below freezing

TonysGarden2011008-1.jpg

TonysGarden2011001-1.jpg

Late February after the cold even and trimming.

TonysGarden2011012-2.jpg

March...starting to regrow. Butias continue defoliation.

PalmSprings3-2011623.jpg

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Austin2011002.jpg

TCyard2011035.jpg

June 12-2011

040.jpg

038.jpg

As of June 2011:

The washingtonia have put out 15 fronds.

Brahea armata 8 fronds

Butia capitata 8 fronds

C. humilis 13 fronds

ButiaXJubea 3 fronds

Brahea moorei 4 fronds

Sabal uresana 1 frond

T. princeps 3 fronds

Jubea chilensis 4 fronds.

We had a very wet May and the plants are on an irrigation system.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

This may very well be the best thread on cold hardiness in all of of Palmtalk. Congrats guys...

K

In my post I sometimes express "my" opinion. Warning, it may differ from "your" opinion. If so, please do not feel insulted, just state your own if you wish. Any data in this post is provided 'as is' and in no event shall I be liable for any damages, including, without limitation, damages resulting from accuracy or lack thereof, insult, or any other damages

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now



  • Recently Browsing

    • No registered users viewing this page.
×
×
  • Create New...