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the official "mattyb & paul in south florida" thread


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Great pic of Ken giving this Pseudophoenix a rear naked choke. It was submitted at 4:32 in the first round. Ken was our tourguide for this entire upper portion of the gardens. He really knew his stuff and all it took was a raise of his arms and the group would assemble and follow behind. He was our mother goose.

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This was Copernicia ekmanii which I thought looked exactly like Brahea armata. Once it was in flower you could see the flowers were not as long, but the overall morphology of this plant is very similar.

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Coccothrinax breakyerneckii

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Matt Bradford

"Manambe Lavaka"

Spring Valley, CA (8.5 miles inland from San Diego Bay)

10B on the hill (635 ft. elevation)

9B in the canyon (520 ft. elevation)

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Sabal uresana

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Someone said, "best in show" and I have to agree. Copernica fallensis. Ohhhh my.

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Stringy bits hanging on the native oaks

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Caveman toilet paper

Matt Bradford

"Manambe Lavaka"

Spring Valley, CA (8.5 miles inland from San Diego Bay)

10B on the hill (635 ft. elevation)

9B in the canyon (520 ft. elevation)

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Heading down into the rainforest area you get a beautiful water feature.

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Dave-Vero leading the way. I stuck by him for the rainforest and lowlands tour. He was a wealth of information. I've never listened to someone so well spoken either. It was like I was reading a book. But then again, my grammer ain't so gud. I think that was Jerry @ Tree Zoo bending over to check out some plantage.

And then my camera battery died!!!!!! Sorry.

Paul has the rest of the rainforest and the lowlands and will be posting soon. Then it's sushi night, where all of my gastrointestinal adventures began. :drool:

Matt Bradford

"Manambe Lavaka"

Spring Valley, CA (8.5 miles inland from San Diego Bay)

10B on the hill (635 ft. elevation)

9B in the canyon (520 ft. elevation)

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To, FreakyPalmGuy,Matty and Paul,

Thanks again for the B-day T-shirt. We all got a kick out of it. I will cherish for ever and only wear it on special ocassions. For example, when the Village People come into town for their next concert. :lol:

Searle Brothers Nursery Inc.

and The Rainforest Collection.

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Gaussia Gomez-Pompae - that's a new one for me, and I think they look great! Are you sure about the ID, Matty?

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John, I tried to do some cross referencing from the Fairchild's site and it appears that these palms pictured might actually be Gaussia spirituana

Here's the pic of G. spirituana from the Fairchild's website on the left, with my pic on the right. Notice the palm trunk in the background, the cycads to the right and the Rhapis to the left. Same palm I think, so I was mistaken. I hope someone can confirm this is G. spirituana.

G. spirituana is listed in plot 101a, which is exactly where this pic was taken. Just on the other side of the fence is Old Cutler Rd.

G. gomez-pompae is listed in plot 166, which I can't find on the map.

So, G. spirituana it is, sorry for the mixup.

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Matt Bradford

"Manambe Lavaka"

Spring Valley, CA (8.5 miles inland from San Diego Bay)

10B on the hill (635 ft. elevation)

9B in the canyon (520 ft. elevation)

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John, I tried to do some cross referencing from the Fairchild's site and it appears that these palms pictured might actually be Gaussia spirituana

Here's the pic of G. spirituana from the Fairchild's website on the left, with my pic on the right. Notice the palm trunk in the background, the cycads to the right and the Rhapis to the left. Same palm I think, so I was mistaken. I hope someone can confirm this is G. spirituana.

G. spirituana is listed in plot 101a, which is exactly where this pic was taken.

G. gomez-pompae is listed in plot 166, which I can't find on the map.

So, G. spirituana it is, sorry for the mixup.

Thanks Matty, I was curious, seeing Gaussia gomez-pompae on PACSOA, which is why I questioned the ID. I think you have it correct with Gaussia spirituana from looking at the photo comparisons.

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John, you still might wanna look into G. gomez-pompae. They have a very unique bottle like trunk with a constricted crownshaft when young at least. Very cool looking. I don't see any pictures on the internet but I've seen it in person.

Matt Bradford

"Manambe Lavaka"

Spring Valley, CA (8.5 miles inland from San Diego Bay)

10B on the hill (635 ft. elevation)

9B in the canyon (520 ft. elevation)

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John, you still might wanna look into G. gomez-pompae. They have a very unique bottle like trunk with a constricted crownshaft when young at least. Very cool looking. I don't see any pictures on the internet but I've seen it in person.

OK - don't mind me, more photos please! :drool:

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I got some hammer on my thumb.

Matt Bradford

"Manambe Lavaka"

Spring Valley, CA (8.5 miles inland from San Diego Bay)

10B on the hill (635 ft. elevation)

9B in the canyon (520 ft. elevation)

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I got some hammer on my thumb.

Don't open beer bottles with hammers. Never works.

Coastal San Diego, California

Z10b

Dry summer subtropical/Mediterranean

warm summer/mild winter

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Gaussia Gomez-Pompae - that's a new one for me, and I think they look great! Are you sure about the ID, Matty?

John-

I looked at the Pascoa website and I'm not sure thats right. These are from someone who collected the seed in habitat in Mexico, following the directions from the original describing article in Principes several years ago. They are quite slow growing and very squat. Having seen them in person as Matty has, the Fairchild one looks more like it than the Pascoa site. Please note pic.

exactly 2 cents worth, right there. :)

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PS-the above info is from the seed gatherer, I have not seen the said article in Principes, but he said "he had the article with him, went to the little village, went "x" miles out of town, went quarter mile off the road up the hill into the brush/etc. there they were right where described"

Zone 10a at best after 2007 AND 2013, on SW facing hill, 1 1/2 miles from coast in Oceanside, CA. 30-98 degrees, and 45-80deg. about 95% of the time.

"The great workman of nature is time."   ,  "Genius is nothing but a great aptitude for patience."

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I do some experiments and learning in my garden with palms so you don't have to experience the pain! Look at my old threads to find various observations and tips!

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Bill, you've lost me. Are you saying that the photos of Gaussia Gomez-Pompae on PACSOA are incorrect? It was the the Fairchild examples that got me excited, and those are Gaussia spirituana, or not?

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Hi Matty and Paul and vice versa, I just checked out your mini films so far for the first time. They kinda leave you hangin' for more, Ken you're a natural in front of the camera.

Going great, great thread, get going with more please.. :interesting:

Happy Gardening

Cheers,

Wal

Queensland, Australia.

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Bill, you've lost me. Are you saying that the photos of Gaussia Gomez-Pompae on PACSOA are incorrect? It was the the Fairchild examples that got me excited, and those are Gaussia spirituana, or not?

John- I can't quite answer that. Matty is trying to figure out what he took a picture of based on a map after the fact. Those are NEVER wrong, eh? :P

Anyway, based on the one I pictured and Jeff Searle has one or more also, the Fairchild ones have much more in similarity to the gomez-pompae we have than the Pascoa site.

Zone 10a at best after 2007 AND 2013, on SW facing hill, 1 1/2 miles from coast in Oceanside, CA. 30-98 degrees, and 45-80deg. about 95% of the time.

"The great workman of nature is time."   ,  "Genius is nothing but a great aptitude for patience."

-George-Louis Leclerc de Buffon-

I do some experiments and learning in my garden with palms so you don't have to experience the pain! Look at my old threads to find various observations and tips!

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Bill, you've lost me. Are you saying that the photos of Gaussia Gomez-Pompae on PACSOA are incorrect? It was the the Fairchild examples that got me excited, and those are Gaussia spirituana, or not?

John- I can't quite answer that. Matty is trying to figure out what he took a picture of based on a map after the fact. Those are NEVER wrong, eh? :P

Anyway, based on the one I pictured and Jeff Searle has one or more also, the Fairchild ones have much more in similarity to the gomez-pompae we have than the Pascoa site.

I think Matty is correct with Gaussia spirituana. Certainly looking at the name plate, it seems to fit. Those on PACSOA of G. gomez-pompae are perhaps deceiving, if the bulge at the base is less prominent as the trunk gains height.

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I'm supprised there are no pictures of the wildlife on the grounds. Fairchild Gardens has a large population of iguanas

which come in many colors. Check out this orange dude.

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That doesn't happen there / So when you run make sure you run / To something and not away from

Cause lies don't need an aero plane / To chase you anywhere

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Cool! I didn't see any of those guys. Maybe Paul got some pics. He should be posting soon.

Matt Bradford

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Spring Valley, CA (8.5 miles inland from San Diego Bay)

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Paul, Matty, Ken, et al, more pictures!

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I did not take a camera to FTBG but I did take one to dinner that night. After dinner there was an amazing demonstration. We will have to wait for M or P's pix.

P.S. Paul was the one that ordered beer and saki first. Being a good host I followed suit.

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here we are on the way to fairchild,ken johnson at the wheel.

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butressed tree.

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we got in free thanks to christian faulkner.

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nice looking decaryi trio.

the "prince of snarkness."

 

still "warning-free."

 

san diego,california,left coast.

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this venerable garden has the market on vistas cornered.

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heres a florida local named "ralph" that i met at the botanical garden in bali in 2008!

small world,innit?

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ken johnson also got a san diego souvenir in recognition of his hospitality.

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the "prince of snarkness."

 

still "warning-free."

 

san diego,california,left coast.

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the copernicias made a big impression. on matts face.

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here is when i coined the term "upskirt" for palms. dont be fooled by imitations.

the "prince of snarkness."

 

still "warning-free."

 

san diego,california,left coast.

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ken johnsons amazing tour-guiding skills have already been covered.

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matt thought i was gazing longingly in his direction,but i was really drooling over the arenga behind him.

lets just keep that our little secret.

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mmmmmmmmangosteen.....

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wavy gravy.

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still "warning-free."

 

san diego,california,left coast.

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it flows.

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matt practices his "palm proctology."

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we call this "shooting the breeze" in socal.maybe you have that expression in florida,too.

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two "larger-than-life" figures.

oops,i meant to say "larger-than-me."

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some pix from the shadehouses by the snack bar. you know where i mean!

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san diego,california,left coast.

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who is cooler? lodoicia maldivica or ken johnson?

the answer is clear.

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bubba gets ready to spring into action as he notes some inappropriate palm-groping about to occur.

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san diego,california,left coast.

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Thanks for the continued images of your trip. South Florida has a lot of assets.

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continuing with pix from fairchild botanical garden.

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my best heroic pose.

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areca with brilliant red trunkal region.

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awesome coccothrinax sp.

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pseudophoenix that have been "dr.seussed" with randy(palmisland).

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bubba--"man of action."

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rockin' pseudophoenix sp.

they are easy to discern from one another by the flowers.so easy that i forgot how.

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ken johnson thinkin' about how easily he could get a crane in & yank that sucker out.

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even the natives were impressed.

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the "prince of snarkness."

 

still "warning-free."

 

san diego,california,left coast.

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i really enjoyed this shot. it reminds me of what the clowns that pile out of that teeny tiny car

do AFTER they get out.

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impossibly tall coccothrinax.

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buuba is so inquisitive,just like perry mason.

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a group of attalea sp.that fooled everyone into thinking they were ravenea.

i said "everyone," bradford!

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good thing i brought my extra-large drool bib.

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into the "rain-forest."

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borassadenron deserves three pix,in my book.

they have both flavors.in the shade...

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...and in sun.

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FM "tikitiki." some call him tom.

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"sigh."

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i love this kinda stuff.

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"the colors,the colors..."

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more palms that start with the letter "B."

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that petiole edge is razor-sharp!

i should know,i used it to shave with the next morning.

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lagoon.what a strange word.

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more.

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