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Amazing Len! @richnorm what do you reckon…to me this looks like the decipiens I saw throughout NZ (Landsendt, Auckland BGs, South Pacific Palms). The blue fronds, plumose leaflet arrangement and even orange freshly exposed crownshaft. I didn’t see large ones of what I know as the typical form at all over your side of the ditch.

Wow…..that’s awesome!! I only have two seedlings that popped. They are actually doing pretty good now after slow starts. I’d say next Spring I’ll put one in the ground. -dale

Both of mine have done well over the years and have grown steadily but still under ten feet tall. Each new frond only increases trunk height about 1/2”. Very deep green and lush though. I don’t have a recent photo but will try to take a new one soon.

Welcome to Palm Talk, plenty of information here! Yes , this is to be expected with large Sabal palms. As was stated , it will be quite a while before you see significant change . Sabal are very slow to acclimate and get the new roots sent out. Some palms have to generate entire new root systems before they can grow a new set of fronds. Hopefully the folks who installed them did the transplant correctly. Have you seen any new growth at all? If so , these were done very well . Those sticks are petioles from old fronds , left to strengthen the crown while it recovers. That would be my guess anyway. Those are going to be beautiful palms when they come around , congratulations! Depending on Species ( there are more than one Sabal) it can be a statement at that size , even provide a bit of shade. Harry

I got stacks of palms in pots alright 👍 I will slowly plant them around, that’s what I did for the last garden safety in numbers, if you plant enough of them in the end you get survival of the fittest and there usually the winners. So 100 joeys planted at least 20 good ones, I will get there. Richard

Took a picture of a leaflet today. I’ve got two other Arenarius (Green and True Blue) and neither have leaflets so fat. Weird… -dale

@Jswnutt welcome to PalmTalk! It looks like it may have been originally planted a bit too high, which might be why it doesn't have enough solid roots to keep it upright. That's just a guess. Here in FL root regenerated Sabals are dirt cheap. They chop all the fronds off, and all the roots, and just stick them in the ground with braces to hold them up. I would also be concerned about it falling over, especially in a hurricane. It's probably a 3000lb palm. A couple of initial thoughts: You could try staking it up a foot or so at a time, maybe cutting a few of the roots on the bottom side to allow it to rotate upwards. This might take years to prop it all the way up, and it might not do so well in hurricanes. Find someone who installs root regenerated Sabals and pay them to basically dig it up and replant it in the same spot...but straight! The above people could also dig it out and replace it with an already regenerated palm. Here's an info sheet on how they do it: https://edis.ifas.ufl.edu/publication/EP543

Mine all germinated. They all went into a tall 5 gallon pots.

I was recently able to purchase a mule palm at a size that was reasonable without being so large as to make it a really bad investment if it dies in a hard winter. (Which can be a tough needle to thread sometimes.) I don't have a bed made for it yet, and the heat is going to be tough until probably late October. So, I am going to keep it potted until next spring at least. I needed to clear out this pot for my mule though, which means my fishtail went in the ground. I sprouted this fishtail and a golden cane palm from seeds my daughter collected from the sand at an Orlando amusement park. I grew them because she wanted me to, but I have always known they would only be around until I was tired of hauling pots in and out of the garage in winter. So, it will grow and look good until nature takes its course next winter. If someone from the RGV wants it, I will happily pull it out and give it to them in the autumn.

I never understood people paying to go to the gym if you have a large yard. 😛 Can't wait to see how it will all look! Some of your more mature areas already look stunning!

I live in NW Florida and had 4 Sabal Palms put in. For the past 4 weeks, I've made sure they are getting plenty of water. When they planted these 12' trees a month abo they were of course, "Hurrican Cut", so they still have 3-4 sticks poking out the top that were topped. Am I supposed to cut these off?

Mine has been a tad slower than C elegans.

Looks like mine did 27 years ago! Mine was to be either a Palmetto or Riverside . Recently I was told probably the latter. Either way they are worth growing , although quite slow not a snail pace palm but not a rocket either. Harry

These seem to always recover if not killed outright. Leaf making machines too, should be nearly good as new by fall

A few photos from @ChristianStAug's Garden Everyone loves crownshaft palms, especially large Roystonea regia: The pool area and shady spots were frequently toured because of their appearance and the fact that it hit 97F while we were there. In addition to the palms, the host runs Air Plant Supply shop. There were plenty of tillandsias and others in the trees on the property, as well as a booth with a QR code for a free eBook: https://airplantshop.com/

Photos from @Kekoanui's garden: The tour was a hit right away at the front entrance (4 photos): The sign says it all: As more than 50 people filtered through the dense jungle, many uncommon palms, like Chrysalidocarpus cabadae, were to be found.

@DBG welcome to PalmTalk! Usually I see them cut off the fan and leave the stem on Sabal transplants. This keeps just a bit of green for photosynthesis, and also keeps strength in the upper trunk. I'd leave them in place until you have a full crown of leaves again. That may take most of the summer. It looks a bit weird, but it's best to let the old stems die off naturally.

Looks greats! I can only imagine in a few more years.

There are a couple of iguanura that tolerate the cool weather, at first I had them in the hothouse thinking that was what they needed to survive in my climate and all that did was give me dried leaf edges due to lack of humidity. Iam still reluctant to plant them in the ground. I will wait gor them to have survived about 4 winters, which will give a bit more confidence in them surviving winters in the ground and hopefully they will be a bit bigger.

Little update 2 weeks later. after pulling the rotten spear and treating the crown with hydrogenperoxide and copper sulphate one leaf has started to open up with little damage and a new spear is pushing out. Thanks everyone for your help, I’ll keep you updated

Sounds a bit like a typical customs logistical nightmare to me like most rules and regulations.

I've been experimenting with Tecomanthe

What’s up doc!!

My wife had a rare weekend off work and was keen to try the Eggs Benedict and Açaí smoothie at the gardens restaurant, which my son and I have been raving about for some time. So on Saturday morning, we headed up the M1 to Brisbane for breakfast. We purposely arrived a little early before the restaurant opened so I could show her the Tahina spectabilis PACSOA successfully transplanted 12 months prior.

More shots of Plumeria x Xanadu... More flowers open = This cultivar just just gets better. Stronger scent as well, esp. after sunset. Can't wait until it, J-105, and Mardi Gras are flowering at the same time..

Here's hoping for many average to mild winters to come. My first winter in TX was average for my particular area (I know others weren't so lucky). I hope my mule will be able to keep its fronds down into the 17F to 20F range. Fingers crossed.

Thank you to @Lou-StAugFL, @Kekoanui, and @ChristianStAug for allowing us to tour their gardens. With such a large turnout, you all did a great job of getting 60+ people through the tours on time. It was great to see all of you @PalmJuan@CodyM@SW_FL_Palms@howfam@Fishinsteeg234@Keybmp @D. Morrowii@Jblume@Maddox Gardening-youtube@BrunswickGuy@kinzyjr@RiverCityRichard@Plantking165 and anyone else we missed! The next meeting is scheduled for Saturday, October 4th, 2025 at two private gardens in the Longwood area south of Wekiva Springs. Look for more information here on PalmTalk, on the CFPACS Facebook, and on our homepage.

...Figured i'd take a crack at this to see if i could turn up anything useful.. ..I looked at the picture and thought " If it were Woodpecker / Flicker/ Sapsucker holes, They'd be arranged more uniformly, vs. arranged in a more random pattern " Most of the same Woodpeckers we see around here occur out there as well.. Two random net searches, #1: " Palm trunk Borers ( There is a large sized species that attacks Washingtonia native to the region < Giant Palm Borer > ) ..and #2: " Shot Hole Borer Palm trunks " ( ..Just to see if i might get a hit ) which turned up the article / PDF.. If it is those dang things, it might be something Don might want info on ( ..If the species of Palm attacked is different from the listed susceptible sps. ) ...And people wonder why any love for invasive species isn't high on my list, lol..

Only took 15 years to get it's first ring of trunk. Purchased as prestoniana but probably a hybrid way back for Floribunda. It has survived two snow events and regular 110f summers.

Nice job digging that up!!

That palm would concern me. At the very least I would stake it in such a way that you could slowly start to correct it. I fear it will eventually fall without intervention. That is a very heavy palm , be careful. Harry

Yes, I remove all of the pulp and the sac around the seed and then sow them. If you're only sowing 10, you can probably get away with one layer of soil 3" deep, seeds, then fill the bag ~80% full to insulate the seeds and keep them moist. I also use a heat mat to keep the temperature above 90F if I germinate them in the cool season. The last bag of them just sold today at the CFPACS Meeting. 🙁

Yep, you have a good eye Tim, I think all came in a single importation by Keith Boyer back in the 90's. Some have poker straight petiole/rachis and some are recurved but all are huge and have very thick plumose bluish foliage. I have had the odd green one with softer leaflets and less plumosity which turned up in Ambositrae seed but they all croaked. Luckily I found a grower with a large crop of Ambos this summer and found five more. Three are here and two are in a mate's garden so fingers crossed this time.Not sure if decipiens or hybrid but they are very attractive when they get some size. here's one:

honestly I think when it snowed it was below freezing almost all day except for an hour or two a degree or two above freezing. I actually looked back and it actually only hit 16 degrees this year it was 11 degrees in 2022. I know we didn’t have multiple in a row below freezing and most likely not even a full day completely under freezing although the snow stuck around some peoples houses for up to 2 days after before melting if in the shade I think.

Thanks for that David. Have you noticed Hedyscepe-like auricles on the leaf base? Also sometimes looks intermediate in terms of the leaf ridges (upper surface) but must admit I have looked way too hard at them! Both hate dry summers like we just had that's for sure.

@Meangreen94z here's a couple before-and-after pictures, I tried to duplicate the ones from 2015. Before: and after: And from the other side before: and after: and the backyard before: and after:

Yucca Aloifolia flowering for the first time in Clarksville, TN

In my experience the regular green humilis grows much faster as far as number of fronds compared to Sabals. It's not going vertical very fast though. Right now mine is pushing 3 new fronds at once and it holds many fronds. Sabal mexicana is faster than palmetto from what I have seen. And the blue 'argentea' is slower growing than the regular green form.

This is amazing. Good job y'all.

More Chrysalidocarpus lastellianus.

Love both Chrysalidocarpus titan and Chrysalidocarpus lastellianus, but it’s a shame they are planted so close to each other. As there are a few more C. lastellianus elsewhere in the gardens, personally I’d chop this one out or at least try to relocate it.

Chuniophoenix hainanensis and Tahina spectabilis are part of the same subtribe (Chuniophoeniceae). Imagine a hybrid between the two!!! A Tahina sized clumping palm 🤣. Would love to try crossing a Tahina with Kerriodoxa someday. Not sure it would even be possible as the former is monoecious and the latter dioecious.

Always wondered what this palm was so today I wondered over to check the tag, which confirmed Geonoma sp. 'Palanquilla'. I like it a lot.

The Venezuelan form of Roystonea oleracea. These are the most stocky Royals I’ve ever seen.

This is very true but it can also be 'trained' to be solitary which is what I do with mine. You just have to be diligent to trim the suckers. The first one that I posted was one of only a few at the nursery that had a minimal amount of small suckers that I immediately trimmed off (back in 2020). Thankfully it wasn't a prolific sucker producer so I've only had to trim again once or twice in the 5 years since. If you trim the suckers when small it's not a major effort. Then they can be grown in a small space just growing vertically. Lots of examples here of solitary palms. Absolutely!

I dunno why I never paid more attention to these. I'm pretty sure I could grow them here and they'd thrive.

You've done an excellent job !!! I also want to add to @Ben G. comment that you also deal with way hotter and humid climate so let's give this gentleman some credit here. Now it's just a waiting process but even now , we can only imagine how beautiful this is going to be. Every day you get out to see your plants , you remember what it looked like before.

Sure , they go well together . The peroxide will zap that bacteria and the fungicide will also kill any bacteria it comes into contact . Washys grow so fast that you shouldn't worry about it coming back fast . Just get rid of the bacteria fomenting in the bud .

I'm 90% sure that this is palmetto but just to be sure hoping somebody could confirm before I even attempt to plant it. 😂

Thanks Jonathan, some good stuff there, particularly loved the bush stone curlews - one of my fav Aus birds, they always look slightly depressed, wish we had them down here. Interesting about B eriospatha and now that I think about it the seed isn't often for sale. Mine isn't mature yet but I'll keep you in mind if it ever flowers.