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Euterpe edulis

Fred Zone 10A

By Fred Zone 10A
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Fred Zone 10A

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In another thread, Chris78 said:

Had some loses as well, my Euterpe edulis died after I tried to move it to another area of my yard.

Over the past three years I have planted about a dozen Euterpe edulis in my garden from 5 and 15 gallon containers.  Whenever they've gone into full inland sun they burn and decline.  I've transplanted three or four to part sun.  One has died and the others are struggling.

Are these palms not transplantable?

Fred Zone 10A

La Cañada, California at 1,600 ft. elevation in the foothills of the San Gabriel Mountains just north of Los Angeles

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Walter John Grand Master

Walter John

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How long ago were they moved ? Root disturbance can be a killer in many plants, did you get a a big clod of soil around them at transplant ?

Happy Gardening

Cheers,

Wal

Queensland, Australia.

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MattyB Grand Master

MattyB

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Nice Jesus hand Wal!  Maybe Fred can get Wal's Jesus hand to bless your struggling Euterpes. :)

Matt Bradford

"Manambe Lavaka"

Spring Valley, CA (8.5 miles inland from San Diego Bay)

10B on the hill (635 ft. elevation)

9B in the canyon (520 ft. elevation)

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paulgila Grand Master

paulgila

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yeah,whats the story behind that mysterious hand?

wal,you change avatars like i change underwear(at least

once a week) :P

the "prince of snarkness."

 

still "warning-free."

 

san diego,california,left coast.

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Walter John Grand Master

Walter John

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SCHIZOPALMIC

Afflication causing user in palm message boards to constantly change his/her avatar.

Happy Gardening

Cheers,

Wal

Queensland, Australia.

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Fred Zone 10A Collaborator

Fred Zone 10A

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How long ago were they moved ?

From 18 to 24 months ago.

The ones I planted in part sun originally and didn't move look great.

Fred Zone 10A

La Cañada, California at 1,600 ft. elevation in the foothills of the San Gabriel Mountains just north of Los Angeles

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chris78 Rising Star

chris78

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Fred

I find E. edulis some what alittle temperamenntal at times and can go into shock easily. They don't like hot full sun or dry soil or dry winds.

I had no luck moving them but thats just me.... others may have.

I do know they like rich wet soil (high in organic matter) and the more water they get the happier they are and full shade in hot dry areas. They are fairly cold hardy in protected spots out of frost.

I hope to try another one.....I really like the way they look.... but I have found Dypsis onilahensis a good substitution if you like an euterpe looking palm, but they grow much slower than euterpes.

Good luck :)

Phoenix Area, Arizona USA

Low Desert...... Zone 9b

Jan ave 66 high and 40 low

July ave 105 high and 80 low

About 4 to 8 frost a year...ave yearly min temp about 27F

About 8 inches of rain a year.

Low Desert

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Cool Mtn climate at 7,000'

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DoomsDave Grand Master

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Hmm.

Well, I know they're not xeriophytes . . . .

(No [fecal material] Sherlock, where's your next clue?)

I think in a place like California, they are a bit borderline, like Madonna (old joke!)

In a warm, wet spot, they rock, not much fazes them.  

I hope to hear from the Floridians.

Or, YO!  BO!

dave

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DoomsDave Grand Master

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Doink!

C'mon Floridians or Bo!  Some of you have to know about E. edulis in a warm climate . . . .

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paulgila

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jim wright has a full grown specimen in his garden that

is amazing in clairemont,CA. i will look for a pic...

the "prince of snarkness."

 

still "warning-free."

 

san diego,california,left coast.

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Jeff Searle Grand Master

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Taking them from a pot and planting them into the ground did not kill your palms. Unless your soil fell completly off the roots(which I doubt) then there was no disturbing of the roots. I suspect where you live is the culprit. These are palms found in wet habitat areas of Brazil. Tropical. They do well here in S. Fla. when started in the shade.

Searle Brothers Nursery Inc.

and The Rainforest Collection.

Southwest Ranches,Fl.

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Gileno Machado

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(Jeff Searle @ Aug. 18 2006,15:22)

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I suspect where you live is the culprit. These are palms found in wet habitat areas of Brazil. Tropical. They do well here in S. Fla. when started in the shade.

Amigos:

Euterpe edulis is probably the less tropical of the genus.

It is naturally found in habitat beyond paralel 30 south, in Rio Grande do Sul, Santa Catarina and Paraná, sometimes in elevation and enjoying near freezing temps in the winter. It is common around Iguaçu falls, if anyone has ever been to that moist environment.

Edulis is mainly an understory palm under high canopy occuring in the S/SE parts of the Atlantic forest, and it loves moist conditions, no matter the season. Up here in the North, they grow much slower than E. oleraceas as a seedling, and prefer shadier places in the ground, with everyday hose showers. They probably don't enjoy your summer clear skies at La Cañada Fred, so I wouldn't blame the transplant itself, but maybe also the soil and the season, with the presumably high evaporation rate.

And please don't throw the agonizing ones away, Fred...In case you give up, you can always chop off the crownshaft and fix a marvelous salad for your wife, with lots of olive azeite, pá.

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Sirinhaém beach, 80 Km south of Recife - Brazil

Tropical oceanic climate, latitude 8° S

Temperature extremes: 25 to 31°C

2000 mm average rainfall, dry summers

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(pohonkelapa @ Aug. 18 2006,14:08)

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jim wright has a full grown specimen in his garden that

is amazing in clairemont,CA. i will look for a pic...

I've seen it, too.

In the words the great Fernando Lamas:  "Mahvelous!"

dave

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