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Bill,

The more I think about it that sucker is just waiting for the box to rot out to be killed by a gopher. DI you wrap it in wire? I hope so. I am not sure what it is but gophers seek these out and travel long distances to kill them. Two stories:

1) Darian's Garden. All the way up by his drive. Hundreds of palms from his neighbors house to Slick Willie. A gopher skipped every palm and found SW and killed it recently (well it is close to death).

2) Brusseau's Garden. His jungle has hundreds of palms. SW was in the middle surrounded by many palms. A gopher went from his neighbors house also and walked at least 100 meters and found SW and killed it!

Both these gardens had many other palm choices too they simply avoided. Just looking out for you Bill.

I can confirm that. I had two, one from Darianʻs original batch, and one that I didnʻt know what it was at the time. But the gopher passed by several nice palms to zoom in on the very expensive Darian Palm. The whole heart was eaten out from beneath. The dozens of other palms in the area were untouched.

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Are you guys trying to utilize scare tactics? :blink:

Zone 10a at best after 2007 AND 2013, on SW facing hill, 1 1/2 miles from coast in Oceanside, CA. 30-98 degrees, and 45-80deg. about 95% of the time.

"The great workman of nature is time."   ,  "Genius is nothing but a great aptitude for patience."

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I do some experiments and learning in my garden with palms so you don't have to experience the pain! Look at my old threads to find various observations and tips!

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so slick willy is crack to gophers. :lol:

the "prince of snarkness."

 

still "warning-free."

 

san diego,california,left coast.

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Pee on it Bill. It's you're only hope.

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Spring Valley, CA (8.5 miles inland from San Diego Bay)

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9B in the canyon (520 ft. elevation)

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uhhhhh better not,i hear gophers also think dr.pepper is crack.

the "prince of snarkness."

 

still "warning-free."

 

san diego,california,left coast.

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I'll give those gophers the crack of my a**, that ought ta do'em in. :angry:

I wonder if I declare it "not a slick willie" if they'll leave it alone.

Zone 10a at best after 2007 AND 2013, on SW facing hill, 1 1/2 miles from coast in Oceanside, CA. 30-98 degrees, and 45-80deg. about 95% of the time.

"The great workman of nature is time."   ,  "Genius is nothing but a great aptitude for patience."

-George-Louis Leclerc de Buffon-

I do some experiments and learning in my garden with palms so you don't have to experience the pain! Look at my old threads to find various observations and tips!

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so slick willy is crack to gophers. :lol:

Don't make me come out there(july 17th) to remind you that the "slick willie" name is so out of fashion. Come on, get with the times. :hmm:

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so slick willy is crack to gophers. :lol:

Slick willy is crack to Bill. :lol:

"If you need me, I'll be outside" -Randy Wiesner Palm Beach County, Florida Zone 10Bish

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so slick willy is crack to gophers. :lol:

Don't make me come out there(july 17th) to remind you that the "slick willie" name is so out of fashion. Come on, get with the times. :hmm:

So what is the true name Mr Weisenheimer?

Randy. Wait. I think I AM Slick Willy! :hmm:

Zone 10a at best after 2007 AND 2013, on SW facing hill, 1 1/2 miles from coast in Oceanside, CA. 30-98 degrees, and 45-80deg. about 95% of the time.

"The great workman of nature is time."   ,  "Genius is nothing but a great aptitude for patience."

-George-Louis Leclerc de Buffon-

I do some experiments and learning in my garden with palms so you don't have to experience the pain! Look at my old threads to find various observations and tips!

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I'll give those gophers the crack of my a**, that ought ta do'em in. angry.gif

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Coral Gables, FL 8 miles North of Fairchild USDA Zone 10B

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Heres an updated picture. I was out at Docs yesterday and saw the "past residences" of Slick Willies. :( I think I'll be putting hardware cloth around this box soon..

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But in the meantime, this thing gets better and better looking..

Zone 10a at best after 2007 AND 2013, on SW facing hill, 1 1/2 miles from coast in Oceanside, CA. 30-98 degrees, and 45-80deg. about 95% of the time.

"The great workman of nature is time."   ,  "Genius is nothing but a great aptitude for patience."

-George-Louis Leclerc de Buffon-

I do some experiments and learning in my garden with palms so you don't have to experience the pain! Look at my old threads to find various observations and tips!

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Looking real good there Bill! I must say! Be a while before mine are big enough to put in the ground, as cold as as gets here, in the winters, Ed

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Had to update this thread once I found it as I HAVE TRUNK!! :D (still need to put wire around the box though... ) But here you go.. Plus, looks pretty good for the beginning of January.

First trunkage...

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Next, nicety.

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Zone 10a at best after 2007 AND 2013, on SW facing hill, 1 1/2 miles from coast in Oceanside, CA. 30-98 degrees, and 45-80deg. about 95% of the time.

"The great workman of nature is time."   ,  "Genius is nothing but a great aptitude for patience."

-George-Louis Leclerc de Buffon-

I do some experiments and learning in my garden with palms so you don't have to experience the pain! Look at my old threads to find various observations and tips!

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That is one HOT looking palm you have there Bill ,but keep a lookout for ----- !

This little guy :rolleyes: with updated hardware to get through wood and Chicken wire !

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Heres an updated pic from today... still need to cage it as I saw a gopher hole a few feet away too.

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Zone 10a at best after 2007 AND 2013, on SW facing hill, 1 1/2 miles from coast in Oceanside, CA. 30-98 degrees, and 45-80deg. about 95% of the time.

"The great workman of nature is time."   ,  "Genius is nothing but a great aptitude for patience."

-George-Louis Leclerc de Buffon-

I do some experiments and learning in my garden with palms so you don't have to experience the pain! Look at my old threads to find various observations and tips!

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Sooooo.. This just showed up last week and it prompted me to follow through with a plan to post a fairly significant event for Southern California from last year!! 

I was looking to see if anything had been posted like it before and stumbled on this old thread on the same palm.. so I thought what a great update!! Timeline and all! (I may have to save the PB pics in case they disappear again) 

I have not heard of ANY Dypsis sp. slick willy/bef flowering seeding in So Cal! Have you?  The trunk pic has a a mountain dew can for size reference too. As noted before, if you happy to locate a single trunk version of this palm it will grow MUCH faster!!! 

I never did get around to more gopher protection for this guy.. I hope I didn't just jinx it!

 

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Zone 10a at best after 2007 AND 2013, on SW facing hill, 1 1/2 miles from coast in Oceanside, CA. 30-98 degrees, and 45-80deg. about 95% of the time.

"The great workman of nature is time."   ,  "Genius is nothing but a great aptitude for patience."

-George-Louis Leclerc de Buffon-

I do some experiments and learning in my garden with palms so you don't have to experience the pain! Look at my old threads to find various observations and tips!

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Now for the last year bit. I posted about the Dypsis sp big curley/prestoniana flowering some time back. But I was embarrassed a bit as none of those 30,000+ seeds popped.. :( 

So I decided to just wait and see if the flower this sp. slick willy/bef put out LAST YEAR was viable.

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Zone 10a at best after 2007 AND 2013, on SW facing hill, 1 1/2 miles from coast in Oceanside, CA. 30-98 degrees, and 45-80deg. about 95% of the time.

"The great workman of nature is time."   ,  "Genius is nothing but a great aptitude for patience."

-George-Louis Leclerc de Buffon-

I do some experiments and learning in my garden with palms so you don't have to experience the pain! Look at my old threads to find various observations and tips!

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The difference from last year versus this year was LAST year, the Sp. big curley/prestoniana had a flower too... kinda close :D

 

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Zone 10a at best after 2007 AND 2013, on SW facing hill, 1 1/2 miles from coast in Oceanside, CA. 30-98 degrees, and 45-80deg. about 95% of the time.

"The great workman of nature is time."   ,  "Genius is nothing but a great aptitude for patience."

-George-Louis Leclerc de Buffon-

I do some experiments and learning in my garden with palms so you don't have to experience the pain! Look at my old threads to find various observations and tips!

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THESE actually germinated!! 

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Zone 10a at best after 2007 AND 2013, on SW facing hill, 1 1/2 miles from coast in Oceanside, CA. 30-98 degrees, and 45-80deg. about 95% of the time.

"The great workman of nature is time."   ,  "Genius is nothing but a great aptitude for patience."

-George-Louis Leclerc de Buffon-

I do some experiments and learning in my garden with palms so you don't have to experience the pain! Look at my old threads to find various observations and tips!

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Anyone else seen one flowering or seeding in the 48 states?

Them other places are more conducive...lol

 

Zone 10a at best after 2007 AND 2013, on SW facing hill, 1 1/2 miles from coast in Oceanside, CA. 30-98 degrees, and 45-80deg. about 95% of the time.

"The great workman of nature is time."   ,  "Genius is nothing but a great aptitude for patience."

-George-Louis Leclerc de Buffon-

I do some experiments and learning in my garden with palms so you don't have to experience the pain! Look at my old threads to find various observations and tips!

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Impressive Bill!  These should turn into nice palms no matter what.  If they are hybrids awesome and if not they will still be very nice and possibly single trunked slick willys.   Hard to go wrong!

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19 hours ago, Firepalm said:

Impressive Bill!  These should turn into nice palms no matter what.  If they are hybrids awesome and if not they will still be very nice and possibly single trunked slick willys.   Hard to go wrong!

Yeah I'm hoping there may be some hybrids... but the lack of response indicates a flowering bef is a"non-event" in So Cal?:interesting:

Zone 10a at best after 2007 AND 2013, on SW facing hill, 1 1/2 miles from coast in Oceanside, CA. 30-98 degrees, and 45-80deg. about 95% of the time.

"The great workman of nature is time."   ,  "Genius is nothing but a great aptitude for patience."

-George-Louis Leclerc de Buffon-

I do some experiments and learning in my garden with palms so you don't have to experience the pain! Look at my old threads to find various observations and tips!

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Sorry, Bill.

Missed this post.  That is really cool.  Congrats!  My understanding is that Ralph Valez's never flowered/produced viable seeds.  I don't know of any other mature ones in SoCal.  I have three of them, but would love to get a second generation Bef from SoCal.

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On 8/4/2019 at 10:49 AM, BS Man about Palms said:

I have not heard of ANY Dypsis sp. slick willy/bef flowering seeding in So Cal! Have you? 

Mine is right behind yours Bill!  I'm expecting seeds any decade now.  I'll probably have twice as many seeds though because mine has split into two growth points (both below the soil).  And yes this big girl/guy has a heel.  I'm hoping mine too will hybridize with one of my D presto's which will eventually make a presto-bef-presto sandwich (the D bef aka Slick Willie is the middle picture below).

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:floor: Fooled me for a minute there Tracy! Good luck!

 

Zone 10a at best after 2007 AND 2013, on SW facing hill, 1 1/2 miles from coast in Oceanside, CA. 30-98 degrees, and 45-80deg. about 95% of the time.

"The great workman of nature is time."   ,  "Genius is nothing but a great aptitude for patience."

-George-Louis Leclerc de Buffon-

I do some experiments and learning in my garden with palms so you don't have to experience the pain! Look at my old threads to find various observations and tips!

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21 hours ago, Tracy said:

Mine is right behind yours Bill!  I'm expecting seeds any decade now.  I'll probably have twice as many seeds though because mine has split into two growth points (both below the soil).  And yes this big girl/guy has a heel.  I'm hoping mine too will hybridize with one of my D presto's which will eventually make a presto-bef-presto sandwich (the D bef aka Slick Willie is the middle picture below).

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I love seeing pictures of your yard Tracy!  Everything always looks incredible.  

And I do believe that Sp Bef will hybridize, as I have what I think is a Sp Bef x Hankona hybrid here in my garden.  So a Sp Bef x Prestoniana seems possible and could be really cool looking! Prestoniana's have been known to hybridize too.  

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15 hours ago, BS Man about Palms said:

:floor: Fooled me for a minute there Tracy! Good luck!

 

2 or 3 decades I'm guessing.  While the Dypsis bef pushes new leaves consistently, it seems to remain about the same size with nothing above the soil line except the heel.  Right now the Encephalartos horridus x woodii adjacent to it that I transplanted from the old garden seems to be outpacing it.  My palm is growing in the shade of a cycad which sounds kind of backwards.

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On 8/6/2019 at 8:59 PM, BS Man about Palms said:

:floor: Fooled me for a minute there Tracy! Good luck!

 

On 8/7/2019 at 1:00 PM, Tracy said:

Right now the Encephalartos horridus x woodii adjacent to it that I transplanted from the old garden seems to be outpacing it. 

The race is on... who will win?  Will the E horidus x woodii cone before I see an inflorescence on the Dypsis bef/slick Willy?  Will the Dypsis bef ever cast shade on the cycad?  It's a race at glacial speed!

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3 hours ago, Tracy said:

 

The race is on... who will win?  Will the E horidus x woodii cone before I see an inflorescence on the Dypsis bef/slick Willy?  Will the Dypsis bef ever cast shade on the cycad?  It's a race at glacial speed!

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My money's on the rocks.

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@Jeff Searle This..

Zone 10a at best after 2007 AND 2013, on SW facing hill, 1 1/2 miles from coast in Oceanside, CA. 30-98 degrees, and 45-80deg. about 95% of the time.

"The great workman of nature is time."   ,  "Genius is nothing but a great aptitude for patience."

-George-Louis Leclerc de Buffon-

I do some experiments and learning in my garden with palms so you don't have to experience the pain! Look at my old threads to find various observations and tips!

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12 hours ago, Tracy said:

 

The race is on... who will win?  Will the E horidus x woodii cone before I see an inflorescence on the Dypsis bef/slick Willy?  Will the Dypsis bef ever cast shade on the cycad?  It's a race at glacial speed!

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That Kentiopsis Olivoformis is looking really nice! 

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On 8/22/2019 at 11:08 AM, Tracy said:

 

The race is on... who will win?  Will the E horidus x woodii cone before I see an inflorescence on the Dypsis bef/slick Willy?  Will the Dypsis bef ever cast shade on the cycad?  It's a race at glacial speed!

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And the answer is.... Encephalartos horridus x woodii for the win!  I will just have to wait another decade or so for Dypsis bef aka Slick Willie to grow up big enough to seed.  Bill, please provide an update on last year's seeds!

 

On 8/4/2019 at 11:24 AM, BS Man about Palms said:

THESE actually germinated!! 

By "THESE" I presume you meant the seeds from 2019 when both your D bef and D prestoniana were flowering at the same time?

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This thread just makes me sad. It has been 13 years already since this post!!!!!!!

Len

Vista, CA (Zone 10a)

Shadowridge Area

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Yes Tracy, seed from the SW.. whatever they are.. updated pic..

 

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Len- Are you sad due to the slow march of time that seems like yesterday?!

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Zone 10a at best after 2007 AND 2013, on SW facing hill, 1 1/2 miles from coast in Oceanside, CA. 30-98 degrees, and 45-80deg. about 95% of the time.

"The great workman of nature is time."   ,  "Genius is nothing but a great aptitude for patience."

-George-Louis Leclerc de Buffon-

I do some experiments and learning in my garden with palms so you don't have to experience the pain! Look at my old threads to find various observations and tips!

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On 6/28/2010 at 11:15 PM, BS Man about Palms said:

I have to say this guy is pretty happy here and starting to get a fat trunk!

 

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Did you figure out the ID?

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Dypsis bef, but not even sure that's a valid name.

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Zone 10a at best after 2007 AND 2013, on SW facing hill, 1 1/2 miles from coast in Oceanside, CA. 30-98 degrees, and 45-80deg. about 95% of the time.

"The great workman of nature is time."   ,  "Genius is nothing but a great aptitude for patience."

-George-Louis Leclerc de Buffon-

I do some experiments and learning in my garden with palms so you don't have to experience the pain! Look at my old threads to find various observations and tips!

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