New palm- Anyone seen one like it?

[BS Man about Palms 2,400]

I just got this palm at JD Andersens last weekend and I really think its beautiful and worth its cost. (much)

It has been know in these parts as a Dypsis "Slick Willie" for some time.  Also has been known as a Dypsis Bef, and Dypsis Brevinodus too.  (I think in Australia?)

This one is very unusual as:

A.  It is single trunked (most are multiple trunked) and

B.  It is fairly large, rarely do I see any of these larger than a very fine leafed "bush" as they grow so slow.

Now, some of you have heard or seen or remember a thread on these as to the claim that they are a Dypsis Ohnilahensis.  BUT when you see the two together AS THEY GROW, you realise they are not the same at all!

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[BS Man about Palms 2,400]

Now...as I was saying, (if the pic got your attention) This palm will usually (if multiple) have 2, 3, 4 or sometimes more "trunks" as it were. BUT they happen UNDER the soil line, NOT above AND have a very large heel as they grow.  ALL the Dypsis Ohnilahensis I have seen will sucker at or above the soil line, whereas this baby may take 5-8 years to just get the base of A petiole to end up ABOVE the soil.

I'll have to get a pic of another multi- I have to show what they look like. It is a lot smaller.

I suspect this guy is at least 10 years old, but I think will move at a better clip now.

[BS Man about Palms 2,400]

And here is pic of the trunk...

Wal, Clayton, Mike, Daryl, Jeff, Bo,...... Bueller?    

PS- I believe its in a 20 gal tub for size reference.

[deezpalms 56]

Nice purchase brutha!!

[LJG 1,234]

I remember that palm when you and I went there and you bought your mutlitrunk Slick Willie. I rememebr how much it cost and all I can say is you need help. But I guess that is not new news to you.

[BS Man about Palms 2,400]

(LJG @ Oct. 31 2007,19:06)

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I remember that palm when you and I went there and you bought your mutlitrunk Slick Willie. I rememebr how much it cost and all I can say is you need help. But I guess that is not new news to you.

Yes, on occasions it ended up it some dreams I had since I was there that day.....probably had a Ranch Hand hiding behind it in my dream too.....

PS- Thanx Dave, I just lust after them...thats my job.

[calyptrocalyx&licuala freck 552]

Hi  Bill

 What  do  you  think  of  this  for  a  look  alike, Let me know  your  thoughts,  Two  pictures  for  you  to  check

out.   I'll  let you  know  what  they are  soon  as  you've

had  a good  look.

Catch-up  soon ,  Regards   Mike

[calyptrocalyx&licuala freck 552]

one  more.

[paulgila 197]

you want me to come over & dig a hole for it?

[BS Man about Palms 2,400]

Mike-

 I do see "some" similarities, but this was green house grown, so I think the petioles are longer on mine due to that. I think the "sun" grown ones will be shorter. Then I think some of the similarity will go away.

PLUS- the big thing is, I see ALOT of single trunks in your picture. Around here at least, the norm is multi-trunks with the occassional single.    I think in another year or two, mine will look more different to yours than it does now.

Thanks for the reply!

Paul- They'll be plenty of time for that when you're old and grey........

[spockvr6 27]

(LJG @ Oct. 31 2007,22:06)

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I rememebr how much it cost and all I can say is you need help.

Now......you guys have to tell us how much!

[BS Man about Palms 2,400]

(spockvr6 @ Nov. 01 2007,06:57)

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(LJG @ Oct. 31 2007,22:06)

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I rememebr how much it cost and all I can say is you need help.

Now......you guys have to tell us how much!

What if you guess?    And remember Palms cost more in So Cal for some reason....

[Jeff Searle 1,161]

It's kind of hard to tell(your pic.'s don't show the entire palm), but it looks alot like the stiff leaf form of D. onilahensis. Which means it won't be one of these big leaf emergent palms out of the ground. They actually start to form some trunk at an early age, and the leaves in the pictures tell me it won't be a real large palm. I have both forms and they do look different from each other.

Jeff

[BS Man about Palms 2,400]

Jeff- Can you post a pic of one of yours?  ANd does it have a heel that big?  (note the tub picture)

[JD in the OC 51]

is it just me... or are those leaves and petioles a little Ravenea-looking??

there are almost as many unknown raveneas as unknown dypsis I would think...

[BS Man about Palms 2,400]

(JD in the OC @ Nov. 01 2007,18:41)

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is it just me... or are those leaves and petioles a little Ravenea-looking??

there are almost as many unknown raveneas as unknown dypsis I would think...

Yeah JD, I noticed that too. But the trunk is fairly "hair free" as such.

[JD in the OC 51]

Bill,

Interesting...

The lack of white powder rules out any onilahensis I would think.

Dypsis tsaravoasira maybe? -the green form (not orange crush).

[bgl 3,145]

Bill,

First of all, I have no idea what it is. Leaflets remind me of 'bef', but stem/trunk looks a little bit different. I just grow these things. Don't ask me what they are!  

And JD,

I'm curious about your reference to a "green form tsaravoasira". After John Dransfield ruled out the possibility that "Orange crush" is D. tsaravoasira, my assumption has been that the real tsaravoasira is NOT in cultivation. If I'm wrong, I'd be thrilled to get some info and see some photos!

Bo-Göran

[LJG 1,234]

I thought that Mike's plants were Ravenea's. I know Bill's is not.

[steve 9atx 2]

I think to know for sure, you need to put it in an oval room and put on the black light.

Moderator, oh Moderator.....

[calyptrocalyx&licuala freck 552]

On  the  Ball  Len,

Only  the  2nd  pic  is  a  Ravenea, The  First  is  what

came  in  as  Dypsis  'sp' "Highland  Redneck",  we  know

thats  not  right,  Bill. Beattie  has  a  mature  one.

Hey  Bill,  I  have  other  areas  for  my   clumpers,

heres  a  picture  just  to  show  I've  not  only  got  single  Dypsis,  Cheers  Bill.

   Mikey  

[BS Man about Palms 2,400]

Mikey-

 Now that you mentioned the first as a "highland redneck", its not that, I have a couple. The white pattern on the bottom of the petiole is a giveaway.  Heres mine.

I agree its not a Ravenea, but that last picture you sent is looking close to the idea.

[palmazon 104]

I spy with my little eye a Cycas debaoensis

[BS Man about Palms 2,400]

(palmazon @ Nov. 03 2007,06:08)

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I spy with my little eye a Cycas debaoensis

Yessir.

[Shon 20]

I saw that palm at Home Depot for $59.95. It was labeled Areca palm. Since I know you do not like common palms I will graciously take it off your hands for a small fee of course. All kidding aside whatever it is it is a very cool looking but , I am saying no on it being a Slick Willy.

[BS Man about Palms 2,400]

Just a quick update here. The palm that was the point of this thread was planted by me yesterday. Its leaves are staying about the same size and you guessed it, its in a box. But I cut the wood off at just above ground level if that helps any of you quibblers out there. Sorry can't download pix for a while. Oh yes, planted next to the C. gigas.

[Z4Devil 26]

[...]

I just got this palm at JD Andersens last weekend

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Hey, BS - that is funny. My Lytocaryum hoehnei I ordered from Dan. An absolut kindly dealer, he tries everything to make feel the customers satisfied.

Much luck for your palm, it looks beautiful.

Best regards, Verena

Edited May 10, 2009 by Z4Devil

[BS Man about Palms 2,400]

Verena- Sorry I missed your post earlier, but I am glad you were able to find what you wanted from Dan!

Anyway, heres a pic of this palm now planted. Pic taken a couple weeks ago.

[MattyB 2,059]

That's nice that you cut out two sides of the box so the gophers can walk in.

[BS Man about Palms 2,400]

That's nice that you cut out two sides of the box so the gophers can walk in.

They have to show their tickets first.

[Z4Devil 26]

BS Man - JD is a good friend of me. What a beuatiful palm. All the luck for it and you, my friend.

[paulgila 197]

That's nice that you cut out two sides of the box so the gophers can walk in.

actually its so the older gophers can get their walkers in there.

[BS Man about Palms 2,400]

Probably not the best view, but here is today. In a year or 2 I'll trim those leaves and it will be beautiful!

[BS Man about Palms 2,400]

I have to say this guy is pretty happy here and starting to get a fat trunk!

[paulgila 197]

yeah it looks great!nice coloration.

do you carry dr.pepper with you wherever you go?

[BS Man about Palms 2,400]

I specifically thought of you when I took the picture.

[Lowey 21]

Lookin very nice Bill,

How is your Lemurophoenix going ?

[edric 628]

Getting big Bill! Ed

[Gonzer 1,971]

Gotta say William, that's slicker'n cat poop on a banana peel.

[LJG 1,234]

Bill,

The more I think about it that sucker is just waiting for the box to rot out to be killed by a gopher. Did you wrap it in wire? I hope so. I am not sure what it is but gophers seek these out and travel long distances to kill them. Two stories:

1) Darian's Garden. All the way up by his drive. Hundreds of palms from his neighbors house to Slick Willie. A gopher skipped every palm and found SW and killed it recently (well it is close to death).

2) Brusseau's Garden. His jungle has hundreds of palms. SW was in the middle surrounded by many palms. A gopher went from his neighbors house also and walked at least 100 meters and found SW and killed it!

Both these gardens had many other palm choices too they simply avoided. Just looking out for you Bill.