'Filibusta' question

[Vic]

On a recent trip to Valencia last month i collected seeds from both Robusta and Filifera, the Robusta were located in an area where there were no filiferas around so i'm reasonably confident about the offspring but the Filiferas were only 2 amongst many Robustas and i collected seeds from under the Filiferas. My question is this, knowing that Washingtonia sp are monoecious then surely the seeds collected would be pure Filifera and some hybrids ie 'Filibusta'?

Bearing this in mind how can you guarantee your seeds are Filibusta unless the seeds collected are from Filibusta? just curious.

Thanks

Vic

[BS Man about Palms]

Not sure, just a bump here.

[richtrav]

Washingtonia has perfect flowers, and given the uniformity you see in older cultivated plants you would think a lot of self-pollinating occurs. But many younger plants (<30 years old) look intermediate, especially here in Texas. If you want one that looks like a hybrid you should definitely pick the seed off that plant, and if you want something "pure" (inbred may be a more appropriate word) you should get them from some place isolated with no other forms growing nearby.

[Kris]

Dear Vic  

here are some visuals of the washy filibustas that are growing in our roof top terrace in south india...

Love,

Kris  

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trunk close-ups !

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its leaf close-up !

[Kris]

Dear Vic  

this palm grows like mad and its hardly 6 to 8 months old in that barrel...this palm was raised from the seeds sold online !

As hybrid washy..the germination rate also was around 90% and are touffies.since after repotting these young saplings i kept them under full or direct heat & sunlight in roof top gardens..

And it loves fertz,i started using it from the 3rd month itself..

love,

Kris  

[NBTX11]

Kris, thos look like my washy hybrids, they grow like wild once they get established in the ground.  Notice the deep rich green fronds, instead of the lighter green frond of your Filifera.

[Vic]

Kris,

Thats a great looking plant you have there, unbelievably quick growing too. I have just noticed my filifera seeds have just sprouted, i'm just hoping some may turn out to be hybrids and maybe have the vigour that yours has.

I'm guessing you will plant that out soon?

I have some robusta seedlings that have taken over 2 years to get to the size yours has.

Cheers

Vic

[Brian_K]

The quickest way I can think of is to germinate them all and watch how fast they grow.  The fastest ones are probably some mix of robusta.  My filibustas have been much quicker than the pure filiferas.

Here are my twin filibustas:

Pure filifera from Nevada:

Planted some out this year just to see what their lethal temp is.

[Nigel]

Many of the washies being grown commercially in Spain are filibustas although you dont get told that.

The robusta gets dry ugly leaf ends and the filifera is slower and has too many unsightly filaments ,the hybrid is the best of both.

[Kris]

Dear Vic  

those Washy Filibusta palm seeds were bought from rareseedsource site.

And here is the link to that page and they ship within U.S in small quanitiies too..

http://www.rareseedsource.com/proddetail.p...busta&cat=6

love,

Kris