M@ximus 31 Report post Posted September 28, 2007 I'm a fanatic of Livistona's Here in Rome many Livistona's seems have found a natural place for grow And actually I'm growing : Australis, Chilensis, Saribus , Decipens or Decora,and nitida in a reasonable size I have also Chinensis x decipens, inermis, rigida, rotundifolia, lanuginosa , Jenkinsiana, mariae, speciosa but only juvenile palms. and still repaired from cold Any suggestions are welcome, in particular for young palms !! Remember that my climate is similar to north California! And there is somebody that growing the fabolus Carinensis, chocolatina , humilis, benthamii and brevifolia!!?? Thanks for help M@x 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
junglegalfla 33 Report post Posted September 28, 2007 I am growing L. nitida, boninensis & chinensis. Unfortunately, all are still seedlings. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nigel 50 Report post Posted September 28, 2007 Thats quite a range Max, even nitida and decipiens are borderline at best here. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gbarce 960 Report post Posted September 28, 2007 We've got Rotundiflora and Chinensis in our house. I just recently planted the Chinensis so they are about 2 feet tall only. The Rotundifloras have been here for decades and the tallest ones are about 40 feet tall already. This is an ancestral house that has been passed on to my father and with was my grandmother who planted these I guess in the 1950's or 60's. Seeds I guess get scattered all over the place because Rotundiflora seedlings just pop up everywhere - sometimes in places I don't intend them to grow. I have to have them dug up and potted and we ususally give them away to friends as gifts. Its rather common and I think occures naturally in the Philippines. The leaves are usually made into hand fans. Its night time now - i can take pictures and post them tomorrow. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gbarce 960 Report post Posted September 28, 2007 These fans are made from Livistonia Leaves. It turns out that Livistonia Rotundifolia is the National Leaf of the Philippines ( I didn't even know that there was such a thing as a "national leaf") Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
edbrown_3 3 Report post Posted September 28, 2007 Large L. chinensis, drudei, australis, saribus mid sized 1-2 meters :decipiens, fulva, muelleri, subglobosa, benthami here in Jax. There are some L. chinensis that survived 10F in Jax. The saribus, and chineniss survived the 89 freeze ( 16F over a few nights) austalis cashed in that night Others probably cash in , There are a bunch of large Livistonas at Dent Smths place-- decipeins and others. These have seen 19-20F at times durign 1980s Best regards, Ed Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tank 241 Report post Posted September 28, 2007 Ed, What temps has your L. benthamii seen? And is it in a favorable microclimate such as next to the house or under canopy? Thank You Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
merrill 406 Report post Posted September 28, 2007 Hi, Ed amd Jason: As I remember, we lost L. benthami to freezing at Kanapaha B. G. - Best Wishes, merrill Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
edbrown_3 3 Report post Posted September 28, 2007 Merrill, Good to hear from you. I had benthamii seedlings out in open during a freeze in 1999 or something like that ... It was around 22F or 21F. -- It got a bit colder in Gainesville as I recall ( 17F).--- Gainesville has been subjected to some freezes in 96 and 99 that Jax did not see. I guess it suggests 18 or 19 F as the lethal point for this. Best regards, Ed Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
M@ximus 31 Report post Posted September 28, 2007 (edbrown_3 @ Sep. 28 2007,18:04)QUOTELarge L. chinensis, drudei, australis, saribus mid sized 1-2 meters :decipiens, fulva, muelleri, subglobosa, benthami here in Jax. There are some L. chinensis that survived 10F in Jax. The saribus, and chineniss survived the 89 freeze ( 16F over a few nights) austalis cashed in that night Others probably cash in , There are a bunch of large Livistonas at Dent Smths place-- decipeins and others. These have seen 19-20F at times durign 1980s Best regards, Ed I was convinced that Australis was the strongest of all Livistona's but reading your post I am very surprised by Muelleri, subglobosa and benthami! This sounds good for me, because I think that winter here is milder than your part of Texas!! Thank you ED!! M@x Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
merrill 406 Report post Posted September 28, 2007 Hi, Ed: And it is good to hear from you, Ed! QUOTING YOU: Gainesville has been subjected to some freezes in 96 and 99 that Jax did not see. END QUOTE Ed, I can't imagine a freeze in JAX that wouldn't be worse in GVL! Best Wishes, merrill Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GREENHAND 14 Report post Posted September 28, 2007 all i have is L Chinesis here in zone 8 they seem to be pretty tough. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GREENHAND 14 Report post Posted September 28, 2007 they allways come back strong in the spring Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GREENHAND 14 Report post Posted September 28, 2007 close up Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
M@ximus 31 Report post Posted September 28, 2007 (Gbarce @ Sep. 28 2007,17:57)QUOTEThese fans are made from Livistonia Leaves. It turns out that Livistonia Rotundifolia is the National Leaf of the Philippines ( I didn't even know that there was such a thing as a "national leaf") Great Gene!! This fans are fantastic! Please post some pics of Rotundifolia! Thanks M@x Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
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paulgila 194 Report post Posted September 28, 2007 my favorite livistona is the one i can't grow(of course!), l.rotundifolia. i am growing chinensis,jenkinsoniana,decora,languinosa, & mariae.all except the last are in the gound. some great photos of livistona in this thread! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PalmGuyWC 1,482 Report post Posted September 28, 2007 While on the subject: I only have 2 Livistonas, Australis and decora, and they are both close to 40' high. Both with some woody trunk survived 14F in the 89/90 freeze, but both were defoliated. They grew a nice crown the following summer and had no trunk damage. Actually, it took a couple of years for them to look normal again. Both have been blooming for the past several years, but none have ever produced fruit until this year. Even though this past winter was one of our coldest in several years, the L. decora is loaded with fruit for the first time. I'm wondering if it's a matter of maturity or what that they have never fruited before. Dick Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Scott 10 Report post Posted September 28, 2007 I'm growing the L. decipiens, and chinensis - which I just got from the PSSC palm auction. I love that one! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shon 20 Report post Posted September 28, 2007 None, but I am looking for Livistona fulva. Beautiful palm, but hard to find. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
paulgila 194 Report post Posted September 28, 2007 what are you waiting for shon?get busy!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shon 20 Report post Posted September 28, 2007 I would but can't find one anywhere. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ruskinPalms 543 Report post Posted September 28, 2007 Just L. chinensis planted this spring from a 3 gallon pot that had like 4 or 5 palms crammed into it. I am curious what will happen to them. I am guessing 2 or 3 of them will come out dominant and the others will slowly croak. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fiji jim 87 Report post Posted September 28, 2007 Hey that's great M@x We just returned from a trip in Italy and were suprised at how little variety of palms were to be seen. Apart from the Orto Botanico in Firenze we only saw a few sp. like Med fans and CIDP and in pots some parlor and kentia palms. I think there would be an opening for a palm specialist nursery in Italy. There is so much more that could be grown and used in gardens there. I will be posting some pics of the trip in a few days. Jim Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
deezpalms 56 Report post Posted September 28, 2007 Livistona's let me seeeeeeee, I'm currently growing decora, chinensis, australis, saribus and jenkinsiana all of which are in containers. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Brian_K 0 Report post Posted September 28, 2007 My favorite genus... boninensis, nitida, languinosa, rotundifolia (still germinating), and soon to be decora, mariae, rigida, and carinensis (seeds). Boninensis and nitida have both been fast growing Languinosa and nitida have sharp spines on the second leaf petiole. I got the boninensis as young seedlings and they went through 17F with just a bit of burn during shipment. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tyrone 2,103 Report post Posted September 29, 2007 In the ground I have L chinensis and two L decipiens (decora) which are very easy care, forget em and they grow. I have L rotundifolia in a pot, which surprised me as everyone said it wouldn't grow here, but it does. As seedlings I have Livistona marae var occidentalis, L victorae, L kimberlayana, and L alfredii which I will plant today. Other seedlings I have are Livistona robinsoniana, jenkensiana, and what I think is L drudei. I picked up what I think are Livistona drudei seeds from a carpark in Cairns. I never got a photo but maybe the locals up that way may tell me. The Shopping Centre is near the roundabout where the Kuranda road meets the Captain Cook Highway at Smithfield. It's the Smithfield shopping centre. These Livistona's were dropping tiny seeds all over the ground, so I picked up a hand full and they're all coming up now with a tiny thin new leaf. The seeds would be about the 4 - 5mm across in diameter. Anyone know. They're the smallest Livistona seed I've ever seen. The palms themselves would have been maybe 20m 60-70ft tall. Best regards Tyrone Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tulio 15 Report post Posted September 29, 2007 I am growing L. australis, benthamii, chinensis, decora, drudei, fulva, lanuginosa, lanuginosa x decipiens, mariae, muelleri, nitida, rigida, saribus (Green Petiole), saribus (Maroon Petiole), Livistona sp.? and victoriae. All are in the gound. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gbarce 960 Report post Posted September 29, 2007 Here is one of the tall Rotundifolias - its hard to get it all on the shot Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gbarce 960 Report post Posted September 29, 2007 Here's a shot of the crown from the 2nd story of the house. We have stormy weather today Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gbarce 960 Report post Posted September 29, 2007 This is the other tall one but it is growing between a big ficus and mango tree so I only took a shot from below. I see seeds! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gbarce 960 Report post Posted September 29, 2007 Some stray ones that are growing in the shade but they seem to be doing well. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gbarce 960 Report post Posted September 29, 2007 If the location of the stray palms are ok I leave them be but if its in a really wrong spot I dig them up. I should really have that done when they are just small. For one it would be easier. This one is a stray too. Too bad my grandmother did not plan them in groups. I think they look better that way. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gbarce 960 Report post Posted September 29, 2007 These tiny ones are Chinensis. How many dacades more......? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
surgeon83 8 Report post Posted September 29, 2007 (ruskinPalms @ Sep. 28 2007,17:06)QUOTEI am guessing 2 or 3 of them will come out dominant and the others will slowly croak. I don't know... I think they will ALL keep growing and it will be a big clump! This here has 7 trunks (at least) that I planted about 2 years ago. All are doing well. I love the look of Livistona chinensis grown in the shade. I have two multis. 7-trunker: This one's in the front yard- 3 trunks: I have had worse luck with Livistona australis than any other palm. I planted 3 in 6/2006, and only one remains. The second one died just two weeks ago; I noticed it just a few days after hurricane Humberto- I seriously think it got killed by 33mph winds. What a wimp! This is the last one alive, and not terribly bigger than when I planted it: Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Walter John 217 Report post Posted September 29, 2007 I'm growing inground, L. decora, L. benthamii, L. humilis. L. fulva and L. muelleri. I lost the others in a cold dry winter or gave them away. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wai`anae Steve 18 Report post Posted September 29, 2007 Don't know if I missed it here but dosen't L decipiens have a new name???? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
M@ximus 31 Report post Posted September 29, 2007 (Wal @ Sep. 29 2007,08:15)QUOTEI'm growing inground, L. decora, L. benthamii, L. humilis. L. fulva and L. muelleri. I lost the others in a cold dry winter or gave them away. Ciao Wal!! When I lived in Australia , near Surfers Paradise, I also passed a lot of time in "New Farm " Brisbane, where a friend runned a coffee shop called " Savoia" Magical place Brisbane , and perfect spot for grow Palms. Wal, do you know any seeds seller in Australia particularly expert on Livistona sp? Thanks in advance !! M@x Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kathryn 53 Report post Posted September 29, 2007 I’m growing Livistona decora. I have three in the ground the size of the one below. I grew them from seeds I collected from Harrah’s casino downtown. I’d have to check my records to be sure, but I think I collected the seed about five years ago – these are fast! I bought this one from a palm society auction. It still had strap leaves and is probably about the same age as the one above – I put it in the ground a year earlier and it is about two feet taller than the other three. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EuroPalm 2 Report post Posted September 29, 2007 Ave M@ximus, Hi everybody, On Corsica island I grow : - Livistona Nitida - Livistona Australis - Livistona Chinensis - Livistona Saribus - Livistona Jenkinsiana - Livistona Decipiens - Livistona Rigida (or Mariae f.rigida ?). This last one is borderline here and some winters he is little burnt by cold. - Livistona Benthamii : I just have sown some seeds coming from Thailand. Phil Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites