LIVISTONA's

[sonoranfans 1,578]

I have chinensis, rigida, mariae, decora, saribus, austrailis and carinensis, supposedly endangered from africa. Here is my L. carinensis in a 15 gallon that I acquired from rod late last fall as a 1 gallon. Its pretty quick as a grower and rapidly goes palmate.

[gyuseppe 581]

livistona nitida.cold hardy!

[Dave H 11]

Anyone who has a handle on this....

I need some help with the Livistona genus... I have many Livs and one day want to have viable non hybridized seed. Can someone help me understand the genus. I've seen postings saying the entire genus is Diecious, but I thought I had read some where that only one of the genus was dioecious. Also is dioecious needing 2 palms, but Livs are bisexual so no need to seek male and female.

The Livs I want to have seed from are... Alfredii, Inermis, Nasmophylla, Muellerii, ( have 2 or more of these ) and Victoriae, Lanigunosa, Nasmophylla/Kimberylana ( need to find these ).

Any help would be greatly appreciated!

Thanks

Dave

[Dave H 11]

Anyone.... Help..?

[Tala 22]

Anyone who has a handle on this....

I need some help with the Livistona genus... I have many Livs and one day want to have viable non hybridized seed. Can someone help me understand the genus. I've seen postings saying the entire genus is Diecious, but I thought I had read some where that only one of the genus was dioecious. Also is dioecious needing 2 palms, but Livs are bisexual so no need to seek male and female.

The Livs I want to have seed from are... Alfredii, Inermis, Nasmophylla, Muellerii, ( have 2 or more of these ) and Victoriae, Lanigunosa, Nasmophylla/Kimberylana ( need to find these ).

Any help would be greatly appreciated!

Thanks

Dave

am currently pouring thru Dowe's latest and greatest Liv mono, will have all kinds of wondrous tidbits to share but not til the wkend if then, when I have time to digest them all. Apologies for the partial answer to query above, but it kinda sorta depends ... many of the Aussie Livs are "evolving towards dioecism", i.e. I have a mariae (or maybe a rigida not sure yet) that is setting viable seed now, and another nearby that refuses to. Here a common palm like decora won't set unless the plants are practically touching. Alot of this is of course environmentally influenced, not just in collections but habitat as well. Dry breezy weather= longer viability for pollen, etc. The non-Aussie Livs (chinensis, saribus, rotund., etc.) will easily reproduce on their own. Lots of reading to do, stay tuned ...

[ron@springhammock 2]

A favorite of mine for a 9b zone is L. saribus. The leaves stayed nice and shiny green even after temps at 26F this last winter. Yet it looks like a very tropical palm with the huge round fronds. Growing in the shade, it's petiole is nearly nine feet, with an additional 4 feet of frond on top.

I also L. benthamii in the ground but it's very slow and still small even though it's a bit older than the L. saribus.

[Kris 1,349]

Dear Ron

thanks for that lovely visual,presented in big sized still..

Lots of love to you,

Kris

[edric 626]

While on the subject: I only have 2 Livistonas, Australis and decora, and they are both close to 40' high. Both with some woody trunk survived 14F in the 89/90 freeze, but both were defoliated. They grew a nice crown the following summer and had no trunk damage. Actually, it took a couple of years for them to look normal again.

Both have been blooming for the past several years, but none have ever produced fruit until this year. Even though this past winter was one of our coldest in several years, the L. decora is loaded with fruit for the first time. I'm wondering if it's a matter of maturity or what that they have never fruited before.

Dick

Dick,this seeds probably are hybrid seeds,because livistonas are dioecious. (All the livistonas?)

Hi Alberto, I coudn't believe what I was reading, check it out, Ed

[edric 626]

While on the subject: I only have 2 Livistonas, Australis and decora, and they are both close to 40' high. Both with some woody trunk survived 14F in the 89/90 freeze, but both were defoliated. They grew a nice crown the following summer and had no trunk damage. Actually, it took a couple of years for them to look normal again.

Both have been blooming for the past several years, but none have ever produced fruit until this year. Even though this past winter was one of our coldest in several years, the L. decora is loaded with fruit for the first time. I'm wondering if it's a matter of maturity or what that they have never fruited before.

Dick

Dick,this seeds probably are hybrid seeds,because livistonas are dioecious. (All the livistonas?)

Hi Alberto, I coudn't believe what I was reading, check it out, Ed

http://www.palmpedia.net/wiki/Category:LIVISTONA

[Phoenikakias 1,653]

I thought this issue has been settled/clarified. Rodd initially and afterwards Dowe have discovered that decora and australis in the wild behave like dioecious spss based on older shedded inflorescences. That might be true for natural population but for individuals in cultivation this is not true. Same individual may in year 1 produce only male flowers and year two be loaded with fruits.