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M@ximus

I'm  a  fanatic  of  Livistona's

Here  in Rome  many  Livistona's  seems  have  found  a  natural  place  for  grow

And  actually  I'm growing  : Australis, Chilensis, Saribus  , Decipens or Decora,and  nitida   in  a  reasonable  size

I  have  also  Chinensis  x  decipens, inermis, rigida, rotundifolia, lanuginosa , Jenkinsiana, mariae, speciosa   but  only juvenile  palms. and  still  repaired  from cold

Any  suggestions    are  welcome, in   particular  for  young  palms !!

Remember  that  my  climate  is  similar  to  north  California!

And   there  is  somebody that  growing   the  fabolus  Carinensis, chocolatina , humilis, benthamii  and brevifolia!!??

Thanks  for  help   M@x

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junglegalfla

I am growing  L. nitida, boninensis & chinensis. Unfortunately, all are still seedlings.

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Nigel

Thats quite a range Max, even nitida and decipiens are borderline at best here.

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Gbarce

We've got Rotundiflora and Chinensis in our house.

I just recently planted the Chinensis so they are about 2 feet tall only.

The Rotundifloras have been here for decades and the tallest ones are about 40 feet tall already.  This is an ancestral house that has been passed on to my father and with was my grandmother who planted these I guess in the 1950's or 60's.

Seeds I guess get scattered all over the place because Rotundiflora seedlings just pop up everywhere - sometimes in places I don't intend them to grow.  I have to have them dug up and potted and we ususally give them away to friends as gifts.

Its rather common  and I think occures naturally in the Philippines.  The leaves are usually made into  hand fans.

Its night time now - i can take pictures and post them tomorrow.

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Gbarce

These fans are made from Livistonia Leaves.  It turns out that Livistonia Rotundifolia is the National Leaf of the Philippines ( I didn't even know that there was such a thing as a "national leaf")

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edbrown_3

Large L. chinensis, drudei, australis, saribus

mid sized 1-2 meters :decipiens, fulva, muelleri, subglobosa, benthami

here in Jax. There are some L. chinensis that survived 10F in Jax. The saribus, and chineniss survived the 89 freeze ( 16F over a few nights)

austalis cashed in that night

Others probably cash in ,   There are a bunch of large Livistonas at Dent Smths place-- decipeins and others. These  have seen 19-20F at times durign 1980s

Best regards,

Ed

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tank

Ed,

What temps has your L. benthamii seen?  And is it in a favorable microclimate such as next to the house or under canopy?

Thank You

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merrill

Hi, Ed amd Jason:

As I remember, we lost L. benthami to freezing at Kanapaha B. G. - Best Wishes, merrill

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edbrown_3

Merrill,

Good to hear from you. I had benthamii seedlings out in open during a freeze in 1999 or something like that ... It was around 22F or 21F. -- It got a bit colder in Gainesville as I recall ( 17F).--- Gainesville has been subjected to some freezes in 96 and 99 that Jax did not see.  I guess it suggests 18 or 19 F as the lethal point for this.

Best regards,

Ed

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M@ximus

(edbrown_3 @ Sep. 28 2007,18:04)

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Large L. chinensis, drudei, australis, saribus

mid sized 1-2 meters :decipiens, fulva, muelleri, subglobosa, benthami

here in Jax. There are some L. chinensis that survived 10F in Jax. The saribus, and chineniss survived the 89 freeze ( 16F over a few nights)

austalis cashed in that night

Others probably cash in ,   There are a bunch of large Livistonas at Dent Smths place-- decipeins and others. These  have seen 19-20F at times durign 1980s

Best regards,

Ed

I  was  convinced  that  Australis  was  the  strongest  of  all  Livistona's

but  reading your  post  I am  very  surprised  by Muelleri, subglobosa  and  benthami!

This  sounds  good  for  me, because  I  think  that  winter  here  is  milder  than  your  part of Texas!!

Thank  you  ED!!    M@x

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merrill

Hi, Ed:

And it is good to hear from you, Ed!  QUOTING YOU: Gainesville has been subjected to some freezes in 96 and 99 that Jax did not see.  END QUOTE

Ed, I can't imagine a freeze in JAX that wouldn't be worse in GVL!  

Best Wishes, merrill

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GREENHAND

all i have is  L Chinesis here in zone 8 they seem to be pretty tough.

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GREENHAND

they allways come back strong in the spring

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M@ximus

(Gbarce @ Sep. 28 2007,17:57)

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These fans are made from Livistonia Leaves.  It turns out that Livistonia Rotundifolia is the National Leaf of the Philippines ( I didn't even know that there was such a thing as a "national leaf")

Great   Gene!!

This  fans  are  fantastic!

Please  post  some  pics  of  Rotundifolia!

Thanks  M@x

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paulgila

my favorite livistona is the one i can't grow(of course!),

l.rotundifolia.

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i am growing chinensis,jenkinsoniana,decora,languinosa,

& mariae.all except the last are in the gound.

some great photos of livistona in this thread!

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PalmGuyWC

While on the subject: I only have 2 Livistonas, Australis and decora, and they are both close to 40' high. Both with some woody trunk survived 14F in the 89/90 freeze, but both were defoliated.  They grew a nice crown the following summer and had no trunk damage. Actually, it took a couple of years for them to look normal again.

Both have been blooming for the past several years, but none have ever produced fruit until this year. Even though this past winter was one of our coldest in several years, the L. decora is loaded with fruit for the first time. I'm wondering if it's a matter of maturity or what that they have never fruited before.

Dick

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Scott

I'm growing the L. decipiens, and chinensis - which I just got from the PSSC palm auction. I love that one!

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Shon

None, but I am looking for Livistona fulva. Beautiful palm, but hard to find.

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ruskinPalms

Just L. chinensis planted this spring from a 3 gallon pot that had like 4 or 5 palms crammed into it. I am curious what will happen to them. I am guessing 2 or 3 of them will come out dominant and the others will slowly croak.

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fiji jim

Hey that's great M@x

We just returned from a trip in Italy and were suprised at how little variety of palms were to be seen.

Apart from the Orto Botanico in Firenze we only saw a few sp. like Med fans and CIDP and in pots some parlor and kentia palms.

I think there would be an opening for a palm specialist nursery in Italy. There is so much more that could be grown and used in gardens there.

I will be posting some pics of the trip in a few days.

Jim

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deezpalms

Livistona's let me seeeeeeee,

I'm currently growing decora, chinensis, australis, saribus and jenkinsiana all of which are in containers.

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Brian_K

My favorite genus... boninensis, nitida, languinosa, rotundifolia (still germinating), and soon to be decora, mariae, rigida, and carinensis (seeds).

Boninensis and nitida have both been fast growing :D   Languinosa and nitida have sharp spines on the second leaf petiole.  I got the boninensis as young seedlings and they went through 17F with just a bit of burn during shipment.

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Tyrone

In the ground I have L chinensis and two L decipiens (decora) which are very easy care, forget em and they grow. I have L rotundifolia in a pot, which surprised me as everyone said it wouldn't grow here, but it does.

As seedlings I have Livistona marae var occidentalis, L victorae, L kimberlayana, and L alfredii which I will plant today.

Other seedlings I have are Livistona robinsoniana, jenkensiana, and what I think is L drudei.

I picked up what I think are Livistona drudei seeds from a carpark in Cairns. I never got a photo but maybe the locals up that way may tell me. The Shopping Centre is near the roundabout where the Kuranda road meets the Captain Cook Highway at Smithfield. It's the Smithfield shopping centre. These Livistona's were dropping tiny seeds all over the ground, so I picked up a hand full and they're all coming up now with a tiny thin new leaf. The seeds would be about the 4 - 5mm across in diameter. Anyone know. They're the smallest Livistona seed I've ever seen. The palms themselves would have been maybe 20m 60-70ft tall.

Best regards

Tyrone

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Tulio

I am growing L. australis, benthamii, chinensis, decora, drudei, fulva, lanuginosa, lanuginosa x decipiens, mariae, muelleri, nitida, rigida, saribus (Green Petiole), saribus (Maroon Petiole), Livistona sp.? and victoriae.  All are in the gound.

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Gbarce

Here is one of the tall Rotundifolias - its hard to get it all on the shot

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Gbarce

Here's a shot of the crown from the 2nd story of the house.

We have stormy weather today

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Gbarce

This is the other tall one but it is growing between a big ficus and mango tree so I only took a shot from below.

I see seeds!

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Gbarce

Some stray ones that are growing in the shade but they seem to be doing well.

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Gbarce

If the location of the stray palms are ok I leave them be but if its in a really wrong spot I dig them up.  I should really have that done when they are just small.  For one it would be easier.

This one is a stray too.

Too bad my grandmother did not plan them in groups.  I think they look better that way.

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Gbarce

These tiny ones are Chinensis.  How many dacades more......?

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surgeon83

(ruskinPalms @ Sep. 28 2007,17:06)

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I am guessing 2 or 3 of them will come out dominant and the others will slowly croak.

I don't know... I think they will ALL keep growing and it will be a big clump!  This here has 7 trunks (at least) that I planted about 2 years ago.  All are doing well.

I love the look of Livistona chinensis grown in the shade.  I have two multis.

7-trunker:

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This one's in the front yard- 3 trunks:

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I have had worse luck with Livistona australis than any other palm.  I planted 3 in 6/2006, and only one remains.  The second one died just two weeks ago; I noticed it just a few days after hurricane Humberto- I seriously think it got killed by 33mph winds.  What a wimp!

This is the last one alive, and not terribly bigger than when I planted it:

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Walter John

I'm growing inground, L. decora, L. benthamii, L. humilis. L. fulva and L. muelleri. I lost the others in a cold dry winter or gave them away.

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Wai`anae Steve

Don't know if I missed it here but dosen't  L decipiens have a new name????

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M@ximus

(Wal @ Sep. 29 2007,08:15)

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I'm growing inground, L. decora, L. benthamii, L. humilis. L. fulva and L. muelleri. I lost the others in a cold dry winter or gave them away.

Ciao  Wal!!

When  I lived    in Australia ,  near  Surfers  Paradise, I  also passed  a  lot  of  time   in "New Farm " Brisbane,  where  a  friend  runned  a  coffee  shop  called " Savoia"

Magical  place  Brisbane  , and  perfect  spot   for  grow   Palms.

Wal, do  you  know  any  seeds  seller  in  Australia particularly  expert  on  Livistona  sp?

Thanks  in   advance    !!          M@x

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Kathryn

I’m growing Livistona decora. I have three in the ground the size of the one below. I grew them from seeds I collected from Harrah’s casino downtown. I’d have to check my records to be sure, but I think I collected the seed about five years ago – these are fast!

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I bought this one from a palm society auction. It still had strap leaves and is probably about the same age as the one above – I put it in the ground a year earlier and it is about two feet taller than the other three.

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EuroPalm

Ave M@ximus,

Hi  everybody,

On Corsica island I grow :

- Livistona Nitida

- Livistona Australis

- Livistona Chinensis

- Livistona Saribus

- Livistona Jenkinsiana

- Livistona Decipiens

- Livistona Rigida (or  Mariae f.rigida ?). This last one is borderline here and some winters he is little burnt by cold.

- Livistona Benthamii : I just have sown some seeds coming from Thailand.

Phil

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