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Key Largo out of the ordinary

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Thrinax excels a city down here. T radiatas grow through out but the plantings of excelsa are vast and specimens old:1BFE9A50-49D9-495B-8716-48EC96835BFB.thumb.jpeg.96542f103253e0c9632286dbe835df6c.jpeg

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They should have much older C. mac’s:EE6E4DC8-922F-48B2-A26B-DC2375DA315E.thumb.jpeg.1eb108ff28bb5300635b383b4d8989bc.jpeg

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P Pacifica: 04BAFF86-A57F-4C9F-87AD-BA5652F556F8.thumb.jpeg.886afd4550b790bc67b0c48a42e29ffa.jpegthese should be planted all over

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Macaw or Aiphanes C51F557C-599D-4A2D-9A97-D62F12EAED9D.thumb.jpeg.120bd2768103d9e3d0dca9bb18f323af.jpegfrom Northern South America:

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You would believe hairy old men would be all over:6483DFA5-3764-47CB-A563-8843F78DAA36.thumb.jpeg.475f969c45d1fd42cf95b3be4dd4c9fd.jpeg

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Shoe for scale on the specimen identified by Xenon:164C0953-326E-4CA5-8C6A-2CA385127761.thumb.jpeg.6434e23db6198c126c1e4f957d809f62.jpeg

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Great to hear from you Mr. John from Andalusia. Your keen wit and expert knowledge is highly missed. 
 

We certainly hope to see you reestablish your palms and other keen information from the south of Spain!

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I will continue to look for out of the ordinary specimens. The truth is that notwithstanding the excellent growing conditions, there appears to be a little depth of understanding as to what could actually be cultivated in this wonderful area.

 

There is something very special about the Keys. The air holds a beautiful smell of spice and the pink sunsets. Throw in Hemingway, McGuane as writers and the tough but wonderful characters who call the Keys home, and you have something very special.

 

 

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8 minutes ago, bubba said:

Great to hear from you Mr. John from Andalusia. Your keen wit and expert knowledge is highly missed. 
 

We certainly hope to see you reestablish your palms and other keen information from the south of Spain!

Thank you, dear bubba. 

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Close up of Macaw:C5F807A5-A61E-4360-A0D9-0191FFCF23D3.thumb.jpeg.f24277d1b63ffbdf69324f7535e9f377.jpeg

Looks like its getting full sun down there? Looks great!

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You are not kidding when you say full sun! Key Largo is 25.08° north. You do not hit 24° north until you go 10 miles south to Islamorada. Then you are dealing with 24.92° north! Strong!

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You are not kidding when you say full sun! Key Largo is 25.08° north. You do not hit 24° north until you go 10 miles south to Islamorada. Then you are dealing with 24.92° north! Strong!

Thats only about 1700 miles from the equator. What is 24.92? Tropics?

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Thats only about 1700 miles from the equator. What is 24.92? Tropics?

Still subtropical but not too far away from the Tropic of Cancer which is 23.43 degrees N. Basically, where Cuba is.

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The p. pacifica looks different to me. I wonder what different local conditions might account for that.

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Great pictures Bubba! I’ve noticed pseudophoenix being used a lot more now. I recall seeing a public planting of them on Sanibel a few years ago. I think this is happening because it’s a Florida native and people are generally biased towards using native stuff.

On a separate note, I’m really liking these smaller stature palmate palms. I have a Thrinax at home, what else is a good palm for Tampa? I’m not too familiar with the difference varieties of cocothrinax, prichardia, copernicia, etc. Anything with a decently fast growth rate?

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Thanks for posting all these wonderful palms in the Upper Keys, Bubba. I love seeing the Aiphanes, and those Attaleas are gorgeous, do you know which species? BTW, the Pritchardia pictured is not pacifica, but rather thurstonii. 

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Rancho Mirage, California | 33°44' N 116°25' W | 287 ft | z10a | avg Jan 43/70F | Jul 78/108F avg | Weather Station KCARANCH310

previously Big Pine Key, Florida | 24°40' N 81°21' W | 4.5 ft. | z12a | Calcareous substrate | avg annual min. approx 52F | avg Jan 65/75F | Jul 83/90 | extreme min approx 41F

previously Natchez, Mississippi | 31°33' N 91°24' W | 220 ft.| z9a | Downtown/river-adjacent | Loess substrate | avg annual min. 23F | Jan 43/61F | Jul 73/93F | extreme min 2.5F (1899); previously Los Angeles, California (multiple locations)

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Thank you Michael! RR, I see no reason you should not be stretching Pritchardia, T. excelsa, T radiata, all Copernicia’s,etc. You can grow Cocos nucifera so why not exotic…

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Great mix of the unordinary for sure. Many surprises, even the common species' specimens are wonders.

That Aiphanes is a happy Aiphanes horrida.

The inflorescences on the Attalea are very close to Attalea cohune from what I can see.

The "not sure" is Hydriastele beguinii.

The "older C. macro..." is not Carpoxylon, but the purple flowers on the inflorescence are familiar somehow...

Very nice indeed. Are these locations out in the public or part of a private collection? Since they are in Key Largo, I would bet they are near Michael Bay's house. His sprawling residence is known for having a great palm collection. It would be cool to see the palmness spreading out into the surrounding area.

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Thank you Ryan! I have a few more to post. I appreciate your keen knowledge. This is located about 10 miles north of Key Largo at Card Sound/Ocean Reef.

I am honestly a bit surprised that we do not see more specimens like Sealing Wax, Metroxolyn or others that are more out of the ordinary. That stated, they certainly jumped on the Copernicia before their time.

The Florida Keys are hard to beat. This area has a spicy smell similar to Grand Cayman Island.

 

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Oddly tall Pigmy Dates(likely hybrid)0ADCCD18-7E56-4B00-94FB-59059ABB8119.thumb.jpeg.26dccde62af0f6f169df7a22e8d9b5b8.jpeg

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An old Bottle as it goes Seuss/Magoo:C048FC4C-7FFA-4DF3-9104-2CC86B2ACEC0.thumb.jpeg.911099d0aa9f93b2f0e7d21faadf859f.jpeg

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Two old Latans (not certain which variety):80C55110-6060-478F-BA1C-4A0961890519.thumb.jpeg.d0ead7a2901e67aff123be7fadc26b04.jpeg

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