DAVEinMB 2,019 Report post Posted June 6 Pretty stoked today, finally got the P. Sylvestris in its new home. It put up a bit of a fight coming out of the planter but not too too bad. The root system continued a good ways below the planter so it basically had to be yanked out. 2 questions.... Do you guys think I should fertilize it this season or let it be? Should I be concerned about the roots it lost? 4 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chester B 3,135 Report post Posted June 6 It looks like you got a pretty good root ball, I bet it will be just fine. I have no experience with those Phoenix or your climate so l'd probably listen to others advice, but I would think in a month or so it would be ok to start with mild fertilizer, like seaweed or fish. Maybe top dress with some chicken manure. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SailorBold 916 Report post Posted June 7 That's pretty clever.. I think you just invented a way one could grow palms if they're not planning on staying or moving into a new pad.. just grow them in a 36" box.. ready when you're ready! Looks good in its new spot. I wouldn't worry too much..thats a huge rootball.root ball.. Are you going to replant in the planter? 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
teddytn 1,570 Report post Posted June 7 @DAVEinMB was waiting to see how that turned out, roots went down deep!!! Looks like a success 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DAVEinMB 2,019 Report post Posted June 7 14 hours ago, SailorBold said: That's pretty clever.. I think you just invented a way one could grow palms if they're not planning on staying or moving into a new pad.. just grow them in a 36" box.. ready when you're ready! Looks good in its new spot. I wouldn't worry too much..thats a huge rootball.root ball.. Are you going to replant in the planter? Honestly, I never thought of that but it's definitely an interesting idea....hmmmmm haha. Yea I'm curious to see how many roots are left behind once I clean up the area where it was. The guys that moved it were amazed that the planter was ultimately all roots. Thanks! I'm hoping it's as happy there as it was in the planter. The soil couldn't drain better so I won't have to worry about it ever having wet feet. I'm not sure how soon it's going to happen but I'm going to reconfigure that entire area. The plan is to build one large planter out of concrete that will replace the 2 planters where the mules are as well as the area where the Sylvester was. I don't want to plant anything that's going to get real tall near the mules. With the Sylvester moved the mules can be the focal point of that area 2 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DAVEinMB 2,019 Report post Posted June 7 14 hours ago, teddytn said: @DAVEinMB was waiting to see how that turned out, roots went down deep!!! Looks like a success That thing was so well rooted that it started picking the skid steer off the ground during the initial few tugs. They ended up having to rock it back and forth to loosen it up enough to get it to let go. Beast for how relatively small it is 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DAVEinMB 2,019 Report post Posted June 10 Last night I cleaned up the rest of the old/damaged foliage so I can better monitor how well it's growing following the transplant. I gotta say, I hope the move doesn't set it back too much because this thing wasted no time recovering from this past winter's ice storm My yard is pretty cluttered at the moment, try to focus on the tree 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PalmatierMeg 7,423 Report post Posted June 11 Looks great. Sylvestris is my favorite Phoenix. They make bodaciously elegant landscape palms here in Cape Coral - so much better than CIDPs, which are desert palms better adapted to dry heat. But people still plant CIDPs and almost all are fungal ridden & wretched. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DAVEinMB 2,019 Report post Posted June 11 34 minutes ago, PalmatierMeg said: Looks great. Sylvestris is my favorite Phoenix. They make bodaciously elegant landscape palms here in Cape Coral - so much better than CIDPs, which are desert palms better adapted to dry heat. But people still plant CIDPs and almost all are fungal ridden & wretched. Thanks! The people that moved it were surprised it handled the ice storm so well. Hopefully it's not too beat up from the move and I can get past my panic about losing it stage haha Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
D Palm 300 Report post Posted June 23 If you use chicken manure make sure it’s composted as it can burn or could spread harmful pathogens. Fish emulsions (4-1-1) or rabbit manure (about a 2-1-1) is fine, what I use on new plantings. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Collectorpalms 2,022 Report post Posted June 23 On 6/6/2022 at 12:29 PM, DAVEinMB said: Pretty stoked today, finally got the P. Sylvestris in its new home. It put up a bit of a fight coming out of the planter but not too too bad. The root system continued a good ways below the planter so it basically had to be yanked out. 2 questions.... Do you guys think I should fertilize it this season or let it be? Should I be concerned about the roots it lost? I think the use of 4X4? posts to make those raised beds is a great idea for me that has soil issues with growing certain palms. I could just grow cold hardy shrubs around the palms so it isn't obvious. Did you go 10 posts high? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DAVEinMB 2,019 Report post Posted June 24 On 6/23/2022 at 9:41 AM, Collectorpalms said: I think the use of 4X4? posts to make those raised beds is a great idea for me that has soil issues with growing certain palms. I could just grow cold hardy shrubs around the palms so it isn't obvious. Did you go 10 posts high? Yea I used 4x4s cut to 4 foot lengths. From ground level the Sylvester planter was 16 posts high. They worked out great from a soil, watering, and fertilization control standpoint. I will say tho, 16 posts is a bit too tall with nothing more than a single layer of 4x4s. If I were to do something like this again, at that height I'd do more of a pyramid, or tiered design on all sides to help disperse the weight better. If you are only going a foot or 2 tall obviously that won't be an issue Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GregVirginia7 384 Report post Posted June 25 On 6/10/2022 at 8:38 AM, DAVEinMB said: Last night I cleaned up the rest of the old/damaged foliage so I can better monitor how well it's growing following the transplant. I gotta say, I hope the move doesn't set it back too much because this thing wasted no time recovering from this past winter's ice storm My yard is pretty cluttered at the moment, try to focus on the tree Cleaned up beautifully! Really nice palm…root ball looked more than adequate…light fertilizer makes sense, allowing it to adjust without having to work too hard to grow…well done. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DAVEinMB 2,019 Report post Posted June 26 21 hours ago, GregVirginia7 said: Cleaned up beautifully! Really nice palm…root ball looked more than adequate…light fertilizer makes sense, allowing it to adjust without having to work too hard to grow…well done. Thanks man! Been giving it tons of water and it appears to be pushing new growth already; so far so good I'm excited to plan out the area around it. Will finish off the area around the patio Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites