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Floribunda Arrivals 2022


Looking Glass

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Well, the box came today.   I was home, just finished the lawn, so I cracked it right open….
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Stuck my hands deep in the shredded paper, to firmly grasp hold of the palm booty!  In my haste, I was suddenly reminded that I ordered a spiny palm this year.  Burning pain, and a handful of broken off finger and palm splinters were my reward.  I quickly plucked them out, a little wiser from the experience.

I continued like a kid on Christmas morning….

Apparently, Jeff ran out of bigger pots, or nobody likes spiny red palms, because he sent me some monster Acanthophoenix rubra.  4x-1gallon.  Huge.   This year’s palm-crack.  The biggest is near 50 inches from soil line to tip of leaf.  Red, angry, and violently defensive.   Took a beating in shipping, due to the leverage, and very wobbly, so I staked them right away.   Hopefully roots are OK.  Score!  (PS-spines and shredded paper go together like you might imagine)

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In contrast I also got 6x-4inch Copernicia Hospita.   If anyone wants one when they reach 3 gallons, you can contact me in 10 years.  They should be just about ready.  I will add them to my collection of slow palms.  They look very fragile right now.  I plan on potting them into sandy, alkaline, Carribean-like soil ASAP.  Some are propped up on their roots a centimeter, like some little coccothrinax do sometimes.  We shall see what they become. ..
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I also picked up a proven winner in these parts…  Dictosperma furfuraceum 4x-4inchers.   I like proven winners / easy grows.  It means they have at least a 50% chance with me.  These look great when they get little trunks.  Hope I see that someday….

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In the “similar palms” category.  I picked up 6x-4inch Dypsis Basilonga, and 6x-4inch Dypsis Saintelucei.   
I’ll have these in pots for a while, but my goal is to get them in the ground when they beef up.  Spindly and wobbly bean sprouts right now.    

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And finally, what’s a Floribunda order without something you have a 0% chance at?   Bentinkia condapanna 4x-4inchers.   I got these for pots.  I know it’s a long shot here.  It’s said they are fast.  Grow baby grow.   
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So here we go again.  Happy growing season 2022.   Thanks, as always to Floribunda for getting these here.   

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Any advice, inspirational pics, relayed experiences is always welcome…..  I’ll take whatever you got.   

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On the B condapanna, I had no problem with these when I lived on clay soil (those are now maybe 5 years old and overhead in height, just saw them the other day) but I bought new ones when I moved to an area that has alkaline beach sand a few miles a way and these won't grow for me now. Ive given up on them.

I agree with you about the D furfuraceaum though, one of my favorites and not as slow as people say

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Kailua, Oahu HI. Near the beach but dry!

Still have a garden in Zone 9a Inland North Central Florida (Ocala)

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2 hours ago, Kailua_Krish said:

On the B condapanna, I had no problem with these when I lived on clay soil (those are now maybe 5 years old and overhead in height, just saw them the other day) but I bought new ones when I moved to an area that has alkaline beach sand a few miles a way and these won't grow for me now. Ive given up on them.

I agree with you about the D furfuraceaum though, one of my favorites and not as slow as people say

I was going to raise the B condopanna in pots outside, from what I’ve heard, they are tough in the ground here, to say it politely.  Dictosperma do pretty well in my area.  You see them from time to time, and one of my neighbors has a very large one.  

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20 hours ago, Looking Glass said:

I was going to raise the B condopanna in pots outside, from what I’ve heard, they are tough in the ground here, to say it politely.  Dictosperma do pretty well in my area.  You see them from time to time, and one of my neighbors has a very large one.  

Nice batch of stuff. I hope you're wrong about Bentinkia condopanna though. I put a 3 gal in the ground in March! I’ll keep you posted on its progress if you're interested. One thing I noticed is the fronds opened early in the hotter months last year and they are starting to do the same again now. 

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1 hour ago, D. Morrowii said:

Nice batch of stuff. I hope you're wrong about Bentinkia condopanna though. I put a 3 gal in the ground in March! I’ll keep you posted on its progress if you're interested. One thing I noticed is the fronds opened early in the hotter months last year and they are starting to do the same again now. 

I hope I am too.  I don’t know for sure, that’s just the word on the street….   Your soil over there, is sandy like mine, right?   Post some updates as time passes.  Would love to see how it does.  

How much sun have you found them to take, and at what size?  I’ve got sunny spots everywhere.   
 

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I’ve heard the word too just hoping I get lucky. My soil is course sand mixed with coquina shell for the most part. I did add in a couple bags of pine bark and compost to try and richen it up a bit. It’s actually taking a good amount of sun without any burn. A couple hours in the morning then some banana plant cover from 11:30 to 2 then full afternoon sun the rest of the day. Last year I tried to acclimate it during fall and winter. 
Good luck with the rest of your additions!

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47 minutes ago, D. Morrowii said:

I’ve heard the word too just hoping I get lucky. My soil is course sand mixed with coquina shell for the most part. I did add in a couple bags of pine bark and compost to try and richen it up a bit. It’s actually taking a good amount of sun without any burn. A couple hours in the morning then some banana plant cover from 11:30 to 2 then full afternoon sun the rest of the day. Last year I tried to acclimate it during fall and winter. 
Good luck with the rest of your additions!

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That looks great for Florida!  The base is nice and fat so far.  I’ve seen some that look like broomsticks in Florida.  Post progress pics for sure.  
Sun might be a tad heavy here, which is what I worry about.   But perhaps with water and time they can power through. 

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@Looking Glass Nice haul!  That's a lot of spines.  How many times did you get stabbed by those trying to remove all of the confetti packing? LOL

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USDA Zone 1990: 9a  2012: 9b  2023: 10a | Sunset Zone: 26 | Record Low: 20F/-6.67C (Jan. 1985, Dec.1962) | Record Low USDA Zone: 9a

30-Year Avg. Low: 30F | 30-year Min: 24F

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2 minutes ago, kinzyjr said:

@Looking Glass Nice haul!  That's a lot of spines.  How many times did you get stabbed by those trying to remove all of the confetti packing? LOL

A lot of little pricks, but nothing like initially grasping blindly into a pile of confetti, and grabbing a trunk upon opening.   Realization came rushing in at that very moment.   

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12 minutes ago, Looking Glass said:

A lot of little pricks, but nothing like initially grasping blindly into a pile of confetti, and grabbing a trunk upon opening.   Realization came rushing in at that very moment.   

It happens when you get mail order Hawaiian palm fever! Ive had it too:laugh2:

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@Looking Glass great minds think alike, and ours too!  :D  I just received my Floribunda order, placed by email around 4/22.  In this box are seedlings of Arenga Undulatifolia, Chamaedorea Ernesti-Augustii, and Kerriodoxa Elegans.  4" pots are Chamaedorea Pinnatifrons (4' tall in 4" pots!), Dypsis Foficifolia, Lanonia Dasyantha, and Licuala Distans.  The big pots are Dypsis Lastelliana and Dypsis Rosea.

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Here's the Undulatifolia and Ernesti-Augustii seedlings, potted up solo for Arenga and double + triple for the Chamaedorea.

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19 hours ago, Merlyn said:

@Looking Glass great minds think alike, and ours too!  :D  I just received my Floribunda order, placed by email around 4/22.  In this box are seedlings of Arenga Undulatifolia, Chamaedorea Ernesti-Augustii, and Kerriodoxa Elegans.  4" pots are Chamaedorea Pinnatifrons (4' tall in 4" pots!), Dypsis Foficifolia, Lanonia Dasyantha, and Licuala Distans.  The big pots are Dypsis Lastelliana and Dypsis Rosea.

Here's the Undulatifolia and Ernesti-Augustii seedlings, potted up solo for Arenga and double + triple for the Chamaedorea.

 

LOL! Great and interesting picks!   Someday I'll have some shade for the interesting understory stuff....  someday.     Chronicle the progress of that Lastelliana.   That's a great looking palm once it hits its stride.   

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@Looking Glass I don't really have canopy yet, but there are a couple of shady spots around the yard.  Almost all of my "understory" palms are in the nursery area.  It's cheaper to buy them at 4" and grow them for a year or two.  At that point hopefully I can plant a few.  Here's a group shot of the others, the Lastelliana are stepped up from 1g to 2g on the back left.  The 4" Pinnatifrons are in the back right:

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I spent a bunch of my spare time last week up potting tons of stuff here, including the Floribunda order.  Kind of a PITA, and made me think that I have to stop acquiring so many little palms - as I think every year at this time.   It was just in time, because we had major wind and rain Friday.  I had staked just about everything, which by luck probably saved a bunch of the order, because those wind gusts were major and not expected.  Tis the season here.   

Rubras went up to 3g in a heavier mix.   Robust root systems but very wobbly at the same time.     Only got stuck a dozen times.   

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Hospitas went up to 1g in a light sandy mix. 

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D. Album Furfuraceum went up to 1g into a light mix.   

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Basilonga went up to 2g in a heavier mix.  

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Sainteluceii went up to 1g in a light mix.  

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Condapanna went up to 2g in a heavier mix.  

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It’s hot and humid as we just entered the rainy season.   Now I’m going to try to expose these to more light and sun without killing them.  Wish me luck.  It’s a harsh world out there.  

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My 4/25 order also arrived last week. Most excited about Mauritia flexuosa--too tall to really fit in the shipping box. 

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2-3 month update….

So far D album furfuraceum seem the happiest of the bunch.  They can easily take 4+ hrs of full sun and have gotten stout.    I should have picked up more of these.  
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C. Hospitas are super slow, in full sun, one almost fried to death.  All are very slowly pushing a small new leaf.   
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D Basilonga are the 2nd happiest.  Getting tall and green in bright shade.   

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D Saintelucei are doing ok in a few hours of morning sun.  A bit slower than Basilonga so far, but starting to go pinnate.  

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B codapanna doing surprisingly well tucked in filtered sun.   Probably ready for much more sun now.   Getting a bit fatter.   

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A rubra are tucked into various dappled sun spots.   Some burned in spots where the sun hit them.  
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Overall everybody made it so far.  With the one fried Hospita being the closest to the grave, but pushing a new nubbin leaf.  

I’ll step everybody one level up into the sun soon.  

 

 

 

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Mine are all doing great so far, I planted a Dypsis Rosea last weekend.  The others are still in pots while I figure out what to do with them.  The Arenga Undulatifolia seedling put out a funky round 3 inch leaf each, really wild!

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8 minutes ago, Merlyn said:

Mine are all doing great so far, I planted a Dypsis Rosea last weekend.  The others are still in pots while I figure out what to do with them.  The Arenga Undulatifolia seedling put out a funky round 3 inch leaf each, really wild!

Even most of my last year’s order is still in pots.  It’s interesting to see what is super happy, what does OK, and what is miserable and mostly dead over time.   Of last years order,  Ravenea hildebrandtii is by far the happiest and carefree here.   Dypsis orange crush on the other hand, 50% died and the other remaining 50% are suicidal still.   This year, those Dictyosperma seem the happiest of the lot.   Too early to tell if anyone is miserable yet.   

I usually plant out overgrown 3-7 gallons.  Big enough to make it, but small enough not to be too stunted yet.  Most of this year’s order can barely survive a strong breeze.  

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