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I have been growing many palm species from seed in the Arizona desert,for the last 25 years. Knowing that it takes me 15 years of growing under my extreme conditions just to produce a nice 5 gallon Coccothrinax,it was a no brainer to just pick this one up,when a local nursery brought in 18 of these old man palms. As of today,only 9 left... ;)

 

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That’s a nice head start!  It will be interesting to see how this one grows in your environment.  Are you following any special considerations with regards to placement and planting?  Coccothrinax seem like a similar group of plants at at glance, but various types seem to want different things from us.  I’ve really become more interested in these the past year or so.   

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I already have several different Coccothrinax species growing in my yard that have been in the ground over 10 years. They all seem to do well in our native alkaline soil. Not doing anything special for this one. Since I am already fully planted out,it will just have to go in front of other show stoppers like Pseudophoenix and Hyophorbe.

 

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5 hours ago, aztropic said:

I already have several different Coccothrinax species growing in my yard that have been in the ground over 10 years. They all seem to do well in our native alkaline soil. Not doing anything special for this one. Since I am already fully planted out,it will just have to go in front of other show stoppers like Pseudophoenix and Hyophorbe.

 

aztropic

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You’ve got some great ones.   I really like your hybrid pics.   Wasn’t sure if you were going to treat this one differently, or give it more shelter or anything, or if you figure it might have any sort of specific needs.  

I’ve got a few Miraguamas (they grow well), a borhidiana that turned out a hybrid a think (grows fast), a little crinita (super slow) and another borhidiana mutt (super slow).  I’m slowly peppering the planting areas with them.  Such a cool and different group of palms. 
 

 

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Some palms are worth paying up for unless you are very young, this being one of them.

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It's perfect (sniff sniff) :bemused:

I'm going to find a way to get one (or three!) that are this size to San Diego darn it!

Or I can just wait for mine to grow up... 15 years you say?
Wonder how long mine would get to that size...

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* I'm seriously considering a road trip. I assume there aren't as strict of rules for plants you DRIVE into CA, right? (that would be a major bummer to drive that far only to have it confiscated). Assuming it's not a confiscation risk, I'd be happy to pay anyone who happens to be driving to San Diego to bring me one :wub:

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Scott, you just acquired an instant specimen palm, circumventing many of those ‘in between ‘ years. Nice score.

I’m also diggin the color of that fence too.

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SCORE~~. I have 1 that is about 15 years old I bought as a 1 gallon.  Been in the ground that long as well.  Maybe 3' feet tall now.

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The old man palm.  Wunderbar!

 

Beautiful.  

Once it attains several feet of wooly trunk, place oversized eyeglasses on it. 

C.fallensis, B.nobilis and Coccothrinax are my favorite "fan" palms. 

 

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Jealous! :bemused: What a beauty! 

You only bought one? Two of them with a chess board in between would be awesome. B)

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They are painfully slow for the first five years and then actually grow moderately fast ( for Coccothrinax). In my hot beach climate they do better in not 100%  full sun and do well with some extra water.

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@aztropic plenty of water for the old man! Good drainage and you should be good to go.

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I broke down and spent 250 for one also and I’m thinking about getting another one because I have a lot of room to plant palms

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9 minutes ago, 96720 said:

I broke down and spent 250 for one also and I’m thinking about getting another one because I have a lot of room to plant palms

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:greenthumb: Kind of a once in a lifetime opportunity. I have NEVER seen any nursery ever import any Coccothrinax species into Arizona.

I've sold a couple dozen miraguama,argentata,scoparia,and spissa that I grew from seed over the years at 3/5 gallon size,but never anything this large. Have some litoralis,moaensis,boschiana,borhidiana and macroglossa seedlings started,but will be several years yet before those are a saleable size. If they weren't so slow growing,I'm sure they would be a more popular palm here as they seem to tolerate our desert extremes very well.

 

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Here's my new guy,planted. Already looks like it's been there for years! :greenthumb:

 

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Just pick two up from the nursery today. There’s only 5 left!

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Glad to see more of these cocos going into local collectors gardens! This is truly a very rare palm for our area,and probably the only examples of crinita in the entire state.B)

 

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Curious on others experience with this batch of Florida imports. My planted one revealed a spear infection,a couple weeks after planting... I think it's under control now due to some peroxide treatments,and has pushed about 2" of spear so far. One older frond dried up after planting and was removed,and the remaining fronds are all looking pretty beat up. Hoping it pushes at least 1 nice new frond before going to sleep for the winter. Establishing Florida imports into the desert conditions is almost always quite an effort;with many casualties along the way. :crying:

 

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I know it is hard on palms when you bring them in to single digit humidity from more tropical areas, I got an order from Flouibunda and it goes straight to the greenhouse but still some of the fronds turn to potato chips not sun burn but just dehydrated!! The heart still looks good so have my fingers crossed!!

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On 3/13/2022 at 10:14 AM, Kim said:

Jealous! :bemused: What a beauty! 

You only bought one? Two of them with a chess board in between would be awesome. B)

Maybe with Chinese Checkers, by the trees? :rolleyes:

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Old man palms are very thirsty things; if in doubt, give them a drink. (The [fill in the ethnicity] Fish will drink to that . . . en masse! )

I got a nice one and killed it by putting it in too dry a spot. :crying:

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On 3/13/2022 at 10:14 AM, Kim said:

You only bought one? Two of them with a chess board in between would be awesome. B)

THREE of them displayed together would also look amazing.

Wonder how they'd do in SoCal. Guess we'll just have to wait and see... :innocent:

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