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Looking for Chamaedorea Radicalis Plants or Seeds

knikfar

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I'm looking for the shrubby form of Chamaedorea Radicalis in either plant form (preferably) or in seed form. I can't find these anywhere. 

Kris

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9 minutes ago, knikfar said:

I'm looking for the shrubby form of Chamaedorea Radicalis in either plant form (preferably) or in seed form. I can't find these anywhere. 

Kris

Try posting in the "Wanted" forum.

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On the border of Concord & Clayton in the East Bay hills - Elev 387 ft 37.95 °N, 121.94 °W

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3 hours ago, knikfar said:

I'm looking for the shrubby form of Chamaedorea Radicalis in either plant form (preferably) or in seed form. I can't find these anywhere. 

Kris

Pretty sure @DoomsDave has plenty. You’ll have to discuss with him if he ships or not. Good luck. 
 

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I found some seeds on Ebay of all places. They should be here sometime next week. I hope it doesn't take years for them to actually look like plants. 

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23 minutes ago, knikfar said:

I found some seeds on Ebay of all places. They should be here sometime next week. I hope it doesn't take years for them to actually look like plants. 

Chamaedorea, as a whole, are fairly quick growers.. Compared to numerous other palms anyway..  C. radicalis are among the faster growers when happy so you won't have to wait long for them to move.  C. microspadix are also be pretty fast. Have gotten these to 3 gal size from seed in roughly 2 and a half years.

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These are going to be tall type for reasons I’ll explain later.

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So far, a great response, but there's plenty of seeds. Might as well feast at the Freebie Trough. (I'm well-gorged myself, still hungry!)

The reason the babies from the seeds are most likely to be tall type, even though I have a good number of shortie plants in the garden, which are producing seeds, is based on good old fashioned Mendelian genetics.

Tall on the one hand, and short on the other, appear to be distinct one-gene traits in Chamadorea radicalis. These are dioecious (like people, dogs, cats and date palms, etc) so each seed gets a copy of either a short or a tall gene from each parent. If there's two talls, all the babies are tall. If there's two shorts, the babies will be short. If there's one tall and one short, then the babies will all be tall in appearance ("phenotype") but, if two "heterozygous" palms mate, 25% of the babies will appear short, since that proportion will be "homozygous".

This is similar to the way people have blue v. brown eyes, where blue are recessive, while brown is dominant. Sometimes two brown-eyed people will have a blue-eyed baby.

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On 3/24/2022 at 10:14 AM, DoomsDave said:

So far, a great response, but there's plenty of seeds. Might as well feast at the Freebie Trough. (I'm well-gorged myself, still hungry!)

The reason the babies from the seeds are most likely to be tall type, even though I have a good number of shortie plants in the garden, which are producing seeds, is based on good old fashioned Mendelian genetics.

Tall on the one hand, and short on the other, appear to be distinct one-gene traits in Chamadorea radicalis. These are dioecious (like people, dogs, cats and date palms, etc) so each seed gets a copy of either a short or a tall gene from each parent. If there's two talls, all the babies are tall. If there's two shorts, the babies will be short. If there's one tall and one short, then the babies will all be tall in appearance ("phenotype") but, if two "heterozygous" palms mate, 25% of the babies will appear short, since that proportion will be "homozygous".

This is similar to the way people have blue v. brown eyes, where blue are recessive, while brown is dominant. Sometimes two brown-eyed people will have a blue-eyed baby.

Interesting Dave. Did not know that. In this state, the road department encourages wildflowers on the edges of the highways, up to spreading seed and restricting mowing in certain areas. If you look at the masses of phlox, which are mostly pink, you will occasionally see some sprinkled in with white flowers. Presumably this is a recessive trait. Previous to your explanation, I assumed that the short and tall radicalis were different "races" that came true from seed, similar to a Chamaerops "vulcano" for example.

By the way, I need to upload a photo of one of your babies that I gave to a friend here in town. It is definitely a "tall" type.

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