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I think it’s a butia but the trunk and leaves are playing with me so I’m unsure, it’s been here for 2 or 1 winter now

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Just now, Jtee said:

Looks like a butia, they just cleaned up the trunk. 

Awesome thank, looks so different compared to the others in the neighborhood :greenthumb:

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47 minutes ago, ZPalms said:

Awesome thank, looks so different compared to the others in the neighborhood :greenthumb: 

 

 

I know what you mean, they confuse me at times , some butias look different from others. I’ve spotted a few around town where I think for a second that it’s a mule or a jubea. They’ll have different frond types or the trunks will be skinny or super fat. I don’t know why that is. 

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2 hours ago, Jtee said:

 

 

I know what you mean, they confuse me at times , some butias look different from others. I’ve spotted a few around town where I think for a second that it’s a mule or a jubea. They’ll have different frond types or the trunks will be skinny or super fat. I don’t know why that is. 

It did trick me and my mind kept thinking it might of been a mule :floor:

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kinda has an F2 or F3 hybrid look to it, maybe B/J...? Some fronds are pretty straight and others have some recurve.

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According to many people on here, it can't possibly survive in zone 8a. The only people who respond to my questions about growing a butia or a butia hybrid basically tell me I'm crazy for trying to grow them in Raleigh. 

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4 hours ago, knikfar said:

According to many people on here, it can't possibly survive in zone 8a. The only people who respond to my questions about growing a butia or a butia hybrid basically tell me I'm crazy for trying to grow them in Raleigh. 

I've seen them take z7b temps with minimal burn. Watch out for snow and ice. We lose them ATL-CLT when the wedge sets up and we get an ice storm. 32º is all it takes.

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8 hours ago, NWpalms@206 said:

kinda has an F2 or F3 hybrid look to it, maybe B/J...? Some fronds are pretty straight and others have some recurve.

I'll have to try and get some more images of it but during the day, that would be pretty cool :greenthumb:

 

7 hours ago, knikfar said:

According to many people on here, it can't possibly survive in zone 8a. The only people who respond to my questions about growing a butia or a butia hybrid basically tell me I'm crazy for trying to grow them in Raleigh. 

I don't think it's crazy to try and grow them up there, I believe butia can grow just fine as long as your watching the weather and protecting when it calls for it B)

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33 minutes ago, ZPalms said:

I'll have to try and get some more images of it but during the day, that would be pretty cool :greenthumb:

 

I don't think it's crazy to try and grow them up there, I believe butia can grow just fine as long as your watching the weather and protecting when it calls for it B)

And they seem to grow just fine, completely neglected, only an hour away, in exposed areas. I know of one in Fuquay Varina that survived 2018 with no protection. So I think mine should have a fair chance in the ideal microclimate and protection when it’s needed. 

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I’ve had 3 different pindos and they all looked different. 
notice the small differences. Why this is I don’t know. 
 The first two were bought at Home Depot and lowes. 
one is pale light green and has fronds that pop further out,  the second one is a rich deep green color and the fronds are more close to the trunk. 
both are in full sun

 

the third was mostly all fronds that shot up and dropped, much longer than my other two pindos. it took much longer for a trunk to show up also. It was almost like a sable where it was mostly all fronds with a small chunk of trunk very low to the ground visible. 

 

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If there is ever a  preferred pushing palm it would be Butia. The fronds take abuse for sure.

Watch for crown rot on ice and snow events. Treat and they come back strong in full sun in the Piedmont.

My Butias handle Atlanta events and climate like champs. Plant them with great tilled, supplemented soil when on the Piedmont cause you can’t stick them in clay.

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This post makes me want to give Dirty Sanchez (W. Robusta) to one of my employees and look for a cheap(ish) Butia for the corner of my patio :rolleyes:

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For as long as I’ve owned a butia I’ve never seen even the slightest leaf burn on them in 8b. I think they are perfect 8b palms, for the Southeast at least. 

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  • 4 months later...

Rode by and finally got a better photo of the tree :)

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That is a pretty cool specimen 

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Corpus Christi, TX, near salt water, zone 9b/10a! Except when it isn't and everything gets nuked.

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Hybrid? Either way, its a strange looking butia...

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Palms - 4 S. romanzoffiana, 1 W. bifurcata, 2 W. robusta, 1 R. rivularis, 1 B. odorata, 1 B. nobilis, 2 S. palmetto, 1 A. merillii, 1 P. canariensis, 1 BxJ, 1 BxJxBxS, 1 BxS, 3 P. roebelenii, 1 H. lagenicaulis, 1 H. verschaffeltii, 9 T. fortunei, 1 C. humilis, 2 C. macrocarpa, 1 L. chinensis, 1 R. excelsa

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Way over trimmed, nothing looks hybrid to me. Butia’s with a big full crown look awesome. That one looks anemic to me :blink:

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I’m not sure why the upload compressed the photo so much, I have yet to see them trim the tree but not to say they don’t, they probably see the leaves go brown at the tips and they think it’s time to take it off but it’s still a very interesting butia because I’m not used to them looking like this

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What sort of makes me think hybrid is that the fronds are...how do i put it...kinda flat? Not sure how to put, but either way its very weird. Probably not a hybrid but just very unusual.

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Palms - 4 S. romanzoffiana, 1 W. bifurcata, 2 W. robusta, 1 R. rivularis, 1 B. odorata, 1 B. nobilis, 2 S. palmetto, 1 A. merillii, 1 P. canariensis, 1 BxJ, 1 BxJxBxS, 1 BxS, 3 P. roebelenii, 1 H. lagenicaulis, 1 H. verschaffeltii, 9 T. fortunei, 1 C. humilis, 2 C. macrocarpa, 1 L. chinensis, 1 R. excelsa

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34 minutes ago, JLM said:

What sort of makes me think hybrid is that the fronds are...how do i put it...kinda flat? Not sure how to put, but either way its very weird. Probably not a hybrid but just very unusual.

They are always so long and they never really curl and it's been in the ground for a while

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Looks like a mule palm to me. I have one in my yard that looks very very similar.

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Oakley, California

55 Miles E-NE of San Francisco, CA

Solid zone 9, I can expect at least one night in the mid to low twenties every year.

Hot, dry summers. Cold, wet winters.

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