Parajubaea torallyi

[Rafael 415]

I have tried torallyi var. microcarpa and torallyi var. torallyi as potted palms here but they really dislike cool humid climate and a sudden change in location. Mine always started to really grow well in autumn (the cooler nights maybe) but as soon as it gets indoors before the first feezes they die in a few days. I think that this palm might be quite cold tolerant but clearly hates cool humid climate.

This one is growing, for the last 5 years, in cool and extremely wet conditions...

[Phoenikakias 1,676]

A tvt, Rafael?

[Rafael 415]

A tvt, Rafael?

Yes, this is the bigger one i posted above - post number 100. The other two are tvm and tvt.

[Phoenikakias 1,676]

My tvm

[Rafael 415]

My tvm

tvm.jpg

Nice one. I'll take the same pic i posted in #100.

[Phoenikakias 1,676]

Your tvt is very nice it looked then as it was about to start forming a trunk. I wonder how big both your tvt and tvm are now! You have also a sunkha?

[Jdiaz31089 960]

On 9/10/2008, 7:47:12, DoomsDave said:

Wow Dave! Your Parajubea TvT is unrecognizable from this picture! And look! You had enough sun for a tibouchina to bloom!  If I recall, this area is mostly shaded now right?

[DoomsDave 8,512]

8 hours ago, Jdiaz31089 said:

Wow Dave! Your Parajubea TvT is unrecognizable from this picture! And look! You had enough sun for a tibouchina to bloom!  If I recall, this area is mostly shaded now right?

Indeed it is, thanks to the canopy of the 800 pound gorilla.

And the Dypsis baronii, in the foreground of your picture, now way overhead, and the crown of the royal and Trachy behind the Tibuchina, all way overhead.

El Jardin del sombre . . .

[Rafael 415]

On 23/01/2011, 13:32:23, Rafael said:

BUMP!

 

Just to show my parajubaea row, middle one is microcarpa.

 

Konstantinos, as promised

[Hillizard 1,344]

Here's my Parajubaea torallyi var. microcarpa in the ground. I wasn't sure how it would react when I liberated it by planting it out after years in a container. They appear to HATE having their roots disturbed. But it sailed through the frost this past winter undamaged and has no problem with the summer sun and heat here in interior NorCal. It's been pushing fronds all year. I have a smaller P. torallyi var. torallyi on my palm berm that also seems to be doing well... so far.

[Sandy Loam 313]

Great!   I am curious about its growth rate over the next five years, so please post an annual photo.  I had one of each of those (PJT & PJM) but both died in my climate (or perhaps due to mistreatment or being planted in too much shade or experiencing too much rain, etc). I suspect that they may benefit from being in a dryer climate like yours.

[Happypalm 5]

Does anyone know what palms are these in the video? Parajubaea torallyi var torallyi or microcarpa?

http://youtube.com/watch?v=zbA9Vvckguc

 

Edited March 1, 2020 by Happypalm

[Jim in Los Altos 2,324]

They are likely torallyi. The easiest way to tell torallyi from microcarpa is trunk diameter. Microcarpa have significantly narrower trunks. 

[Tyrone 1,912]

On 3/1/2020 at 3:17 PM, Happypalm said:

Does anyone know what palms are these in the video? Parajubaea torallyi var torallyi or microcarpa?

http://youtube.com/watch?v=zbA9Vvckguc

 

I want to go there. Loved that clip. I reckon they are P torallyi var microcarpa, or maybe even P cocoides??? 

[Albey 73]

On 1/27/2015 at 5:50 PM, Josh-O said:

all the more reasons to plant P. Toryalli. Their awesome!!!!!!

Here is one of the biggest ones in Christchurch NZ

 

[ExperimentalGrower 17]

Hi folks,

New here.  I know this quite an old thread but I found it very informative reading everyone's experience.  P. torallyi is a "must have" for me.  Just bought a house in Vallejo, CA; in the Bay Area zone 17, USDA 9b/10a.  The cold or heat don't concern me as much as space does.  I am trying to fit this one into my back yard as the main canopy palm for my palm bed I'm going to be working on very soon.  I have a narrow yard, so that's the main issue.

Tell me if I'm crazy- I'm looking at placing it (figuring in proposed max diameter) 5-6 ft. from the back of my house, any further away and I'm too close to PG&E's power lines above the back edge of my property.  At 5-6ft. from the house, if I'm to take into account the spread of these palms when full grown (~18 ft.), then the fronds will eventually in many years (not sure how many) arch over the 30ft. tall power lines at the back edge of the property by ~3-4ft.  I've attached some pics for reference.  Kind of hard to really get the scale into perspective but I tried.  The top of the eaves of my house are around 12ft. tall for reference, it's about 20ft from the air conditioner to the edge of the house visible in the pic, and about 12 ft. from the eaves to the 30ft power lines overhead.  It's obvious to me already that I will be pushing it with space.  I've tried to illustrate with the markings on the pics the estimated diameter of the base of the trunk in relation to the rest of the yard, and the rough border of the bed I'm putting in. I'm not too worried if the Meyer Lemon gets shaded out. Willing to make that sacrifice, it was already planted here. 

The question is- is it doable or insane? lol

PS- adobe clay soil here, anyone have any experience growing them in straight clay? I plan to amend heavily with humus, pumice, and a little sand to kind of create some aerated loam.

Sorry about the long winded post. Thanks for your help!

Justin

[rprimbs 228]

3 hours ago, ExperimentalGrower said:

Hi folks,

New here.  I know this quite an old thread but I found it very informative reading everyone's experience.  P. torallyi is a "must have" for me.  Just bought a house in Vallejo, CA; in the Bay Area zone 17, USDA 9b/10a.  The cold or heat don't concern me as much as space does.  I am trying to fit this one into my back yard as the main canopy palm for my palm bed I'm going to be working on very soon.  I have a narrow yard, so that's the main issue.

Tell me if I'm crazy- I'm looking at placing it (figuring in proposed max diameter) 5-6 ft. from the back of my house, any further away and I'm too close to PG&E's power lines above the back edge of my property.  At 5-6ft. from the house, if I'm to take into account the spread of these palms when full grown (~18 ft.), then the fronds will eventually in many years (not sure how many) arch over the 30ft. tall power lines at the back edge of the property by ~3-4ft.  I've attached some pics for reference.  Kind of hard to really get the scale into perspective but I tried.  The top of the eaves of my house are around 12ft. tall for reference, it's about 20ft from the air conditioner to the edge of the house visible in the pic, and about 12 ft. from the eaves to the 30ft power lines overhead.  It's obvious to me already that I will be pushing it with space.  I've tried to illustrate with the markings on the pics the estimated diameter of the base of the trunk in relation to the rest of the yard, and the rough border of the bed I'm putting in. I'm not too worried if the Meyer Lemon gets shaded out. Willing to make that sacrifice, it was already planted here. 

The question is- is it doable or insane? lol

PS- adobe clay soil here, anyone have any experience growing them in straight clay? I plan to amend heavily with humus, pumice, and a little sand to kind of create some aerated loam.

Sorry about the long winded post. Thanks for your help!

Justin

Just remember the trunks of these palms gets really beefy.  Really wide!  Like three to four feet wide.

[ExperimentalGrower 17]

1 hour ago, rprimbs said:

Just remember the trunks of these palms gets really beefy.  Really wide!  Like three to four feet wide.

Crazy. Palmpedia is indicating 24”, but sounds like they get way beefier.

[rprimbs 228]

On 3/3/2020 at 3:19 AM, Albey said:

Here is one of the biggest ones in Christchurch NZ

 

Zoom this picture in and take a look at the size of the trunk!