Zone Poll

[MonkeDonkezz 23]

There is a poll

[MonkeDonkezz 23]

Oops, they forced me to add a comment.

[MonkeDonkezz 23]

I am in 7a due to me being located near a swampy forest, but about a block from me is also zone 7b.

Edited January 25 by MonkeDonkezz

[MonkeDonkezz 23]

Also tell me if this poll was done before.

[Swolte 1,045]

 

Just now, MonkeDonkezz said:

Also tell me if this poll was done before.

I cannot recall. Good idea. Kinda curious what it will turn out to be. You might want to add 9b and even 10 as those people do get freezes and sometimes still post here (or at least have an interest in cold hardy). 

[MonkeDonkezz 23]

Ok, thanks, I will!

[MonkeDonkezz 23]

Looks like a lot of people are in zone 8b

[RyManUtah 1,842]

I am on the border of 8a/8b; I chose 8b, as it was the only zone 8 option listed. 

[ColdBonsai 131]

Zone 7a but I have a cold zone complex and pretend I'm an 8a.

[DAVEinMB 2,019]

8b with hopes of 9a one day

[NWpalms@206 439]

Vashon island Washington 8b, I have 9a microclimates on my 3acres south facing home and property. 

[Allen 1,355]

I'm 7a but lots of 8b peeps.  That's a good zone to push and actually grow a few palms that will survive.

[maskedmole 55]

I'm 7a. Due to being on a higher elevation, it cools my area significantly compared to surrounding areas. I debated on whether to put 2 zones or not because the old 2012 map actually puts me in 6b but through my own observations through recent years, I have concluded my area is now 7a at an average of around 4 degrees as the lowest low per year in Fahrenheit. Also, the 2015 map from arbor day website which goes off of more recent years agrees that my area is 7a. We are rarely below zero. About an hour south is 7b. How unfair. Even an arguable zone 8a or at the least 7b in Knoxville is only about an hour or so away.  There is no way Knoxville is only 7a. The heat island is not fairly represented there. The 2012 zone map is a little outdated and is in need of updating. But I guess if you are the conservative type, you may enjoy it more.

Edited January 26 by maskedmole

[KDubU 335]

9a leaning to a 9b due to being on an island and surrounded by water. Although it can get cold here and this Sunday it will be 28f around 5am and bouncing up to 51 in the day. A cold day though.

Edited January 26 by KDubU

[EJ NJ 93]

I am a technically zone 7B but we always have zone 8A and even 8B winters

[oasis371 434]

"I am a technically zone 7B but we always have zone 8A and even 8B winters."

Zones are based on 30 year average minimums, not just the last 4-5 we happen to remember, or what one may "feel".  What's 4 years in the life of a tree? Nothing!

If you were Zone 8A/8B, there'd be Sabal palmettos all around you by now.  Newark is a solid 7B (which in fact, was bumped up from a 7a not too long ago), based on something that has become highly controversial and political in this country these days..., namely, scientific DATA! 

Edited January 26 by oasis371

[tlow 391]

36 minutes ago, oasis371 said:

"I am a technically zone 7B but we always have zone 8A and even 8B winters."

Zones are based on 30 year average minimums, not just the last 4-5 we happen to remember, or what one may "feel".  What's 4 years in the life of a tree? Nothing!

If you were Zone 8A/8B, there'd be Sabal palmettos all around you by now.  Newark is a solid 7B (which in fact, was bumped up from a 7a not too long ago), based on something that has become highly controversial and political in this country these days..., namely, scientific DATA! 

I'm a solid 8a, but there aren't "palmettos all over".. I wish there was, but that's likely because they are overlooked and people want the Washingtonias that are sold at stores.. they get nuked every decade or so sadly.  I've got an entire property full of Sabals, dozens of different types and hope to start spreading Sabals here.. They are rock solid here and under-rated, and overlooked... @teddytn

[EJ NJ 93]

41 minutes ago, oasis371 said:

"I am a technically zone 7B but we always have zone 8A and even 8B winters."

Zones are based on 30 year average minimums, not just the last 4-5 we happen to remember, or what one may "feel".  What's 4 years in the life of a tree? Nothing!

If you were Zone 8A/8B, there'd be Sabal palmettos all around you by now.  Newark is a solid 7B (which in fact, was bumped up from a 7a not too long ago), based on something that has become highly controversial and political in this country these days..., namely, scientific DATA! 

I told you that it's just because bo one has ever tried to grow anything other that trachycarpus here and I will grow what ever I want! No matter what you say!

[EJ NJ 93]

Also have you ever heard of climate change things are just going to get warmer!

[tlow 391]

Just now, EJ NJ said:

Also have you ever heard of climate change things are just going to get warmer!

I'm actually waiting for the ice age that was to come in the 90's, then we can move onto global warming lol.

[oasis371 434]

"Also have you ever heard of climate change things are just going to get warmer!"

No doubt, but little comfort to MIAMI this weekend, when it'll be dropping into the upper 30's..  Extremes will STILL occur, perhaps even MORE frequently than the historical norm would suggest as the climate system is unstable, in flux, and perhaps moving to a new state of normal.

 

"I told you that it's just because bo one has ever tried to grow anything other that trachycarpus here and I will grow what ever I want! No matter what you say!"

So assuming you also see groves of Trachycarpus fortunei.

P.S., Maybe try coconuts

 

[jwf1983 25]

What happened to z8a?  

[jwf1983 25]

These hardiness zones are flexed so hard these days.  

[Jimhardy 666]

Z5b

52556 Southeast Iowa

 

[Jimhardy 666]

[Jimhardy 666]

[Las Palmas Norte 543]

Sometimes if you're new (which I am not) to gardening, false info is readily available and give gardeners wrong info. Proof here on this zone map of my region, stating I'm in zone 9a. Not only that, many areas of the map don't reflect reality with many errors. I'm largely zone zone 8b with 8a winters every 15 years or so.

 

Edited January 26 by Las Palmas Norte

[teddytn 1,570]

7a here in middle TN. Nothing new to discuss zones and what’s possible and what’s not. To reiterate what has been said many times zone rating doesn’t fully capture what you will be able to grow. Even if a given locales temps don’t drop too low during the winter and would technically get a higher zone rating. The cumulative hours below freezing or close to, over a span of 5 months up north is not conducive to growing palms unprotected (east coast up north). Trachycarpus being an exception here, but Sabal minor and even needle palm may not die out right, but really need summer heat to thrive. Something people always overlook, what about ground temps during winter…if the ground regularly freezes solid or remains frozen for a good stretch over winter, again not conducive to having thriving palms. Plant whatever you want of course, use your microclimates at your house. Planting against a foundation gives at least half zone of hardiness better imo. Add protection to that and of course almost anything is possible. All depends on what kind of trouble you’re willing to go through to say you have something planted at your house.

[NWpalms@206 439]

1 hour ago, Jimhardy said:

Z5b

52556 Southeast Iowa

 

Are those Tetrapanex trees on the left?

[Gator 100]

Im in Zone 6

...... this winter has been zone 7b so far

My palms are still happy and January is almost over 

[SailorBold 916]

Abq airport long term avg is 10f..  avg lowest for Dec and jan. Is 12/14f.. so.. 7b/8a.. this winter so far is 8b...

There are warmer parts of the city that are 1-3 degrees warmer....and opposite for valley locales.. I run about 2f warmer.. depending.

Edited January 26 by SailorBold

[Xenon 2,421]

I guess numerically I'm low end 9b for the last 30 years (yes, even including the 12F massacre last year). I like to pretend it's borderline 10a but sooner or later the zone 8 reality hits. 

So kind of warm 9a-ish? Just warm enough for big queens and borderline decent Bismarckia (until it isn't) 

[GeorgiaPalms 97]

8a but it wasn't listed, so I chose 7b. 

[MonkeDonkezz 23]

Sorry everyone for the inconvenience , I forgot to add 8a

[MonkeDonkezz 23]

2 minutes ago, MonkeDonkezz said:

Sorry everyone for the inconvenience , I forgot to add 8a

Just write it in the comments

[oasis371 434]

I am zone 7B but 13B in my heart.

[Will Simpson 911]

I'm 8B this winter so far (19F)  , and 8B last winter (19F) and 9A the previous winter ( 20F) , and I have averaged 12F+ for the lowest Lows for the  last 30years , but according to the zone map I'm 7B , which is reasonable considering I will surely have a 7B winter within a few years  most likely .

Will

Edited January 26 by Will Simpson

[oasis371 434]

As has been said above, while gardening zones ARE useful, they are just ONE measure of data useful in determining hardiness.

Last year, while South Texas froze, my minimum was 14 F (Zone 8)..., but we had two feet of snow that refused to melt for weeks in February due to persistent cold.  I had an unprotected Trachycarpus (windmill) that had spear pull.  This winter our minimum was 7 F.  (Zone 7B), but so far, much drier, and I decided to cover and heat with lights, despite the fact that December was ridiculously WARM.  In a normal year,  I  basically have to get through JANUARY here. Especially recently, Decembers being a continuation of summer warmth, January is freakin' January, and February is ALL OVER THE PLACE!

[Las Palmas Norte 543]

36 minutes ago, oasis371 said:

As has been said above, while gardening zones ARE useful, they are just ONE measure of data useful in determining hardiness. ...

No truer words have been mentioned.

[Teegurr 437]

1 hour ago, Will Simpson said:

I'm 8B this winter so far (19F)  , and 8B last winter (19F) and 9A the previous winter ( 20F) , and I have averaged 12F+ for the lowest Lows for the  last 30years , but according to the zone map I'm 7B , which is reasonable considering I will surely have a 7B winter within a few years  most likely .

Will

Map is outdated. If 30 years says 12f is your avg annual minimum, then you are 8a.