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It’s been in the 70s F mostly here lately, with some 60s and a rare high 50 at night.  it’s a big change from days in the 90s and nights in the 80s of summer.  Clover has taken over everything with the cold weather.  I’m too busy to weed lately.   

Some palms have kept on like nothing happened, and some have ground to a halt.  What are your best cool weather growers?   

Here’s what I’ve noticed in a few of my little guys…  from limited observations.  

 

Teddy Bears don’t seem to slow down at all.  Pushing double spikes in winter.  Pretty fast for me….

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R. Rivularis still pretty fast too….
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Heliconias blooming and out of control still…D63D678F-35AE-4758-B757-BAAE0A62E296.thumb.jpeg.a9b5d35e2014341c2cb1c61f1b1d917d.jpeg


Various P. Sargentii have ground to a halt, as have various Coccothrinax….E00FE34F-25C7-4753-AB22-D45EA77A4114.thumb.jpeg.b47ddda5a1286584d1e2f892379b737e.jpeg9F6FD5F5-1A03-4B1D-81BB-D7BDC35165B9.thumb.jpeg.5315e46a5c7382a912e2087dd60e53d7.jpeg4D3277D9-0524-41F4-A302-E2180CA4E189.thumb.jpeg.c1164011c8af43b42bbf4ecd40c87456.jpeg

The Bottle seems to shut down this time of year…C49897DC-79A5-4A93-A8A4-CFE14561BE10.thumb.jpeg.7a0618f8716484a3ddc07639a431475b.jpeg


C. Hookerii and macrocarpa seems to plod along the same, consistently slow…294E3BB5-638D-47E4-8748-2D173D150D14.thumb.jpeg.c925cbc0c3ad5cf04f94697a003d58e5.jpeg

 

Along with D. Carlsmithii….  Snailing along at the same pace…

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D. Orange Crush are unhappy here, no matter the season….  They hate the heat, they hate the sun, they don’t much like the shade or cool weather either, they just want to go home....  969666C0-0F77-4E24-8EBD-36DFC4C640CE.thumb.jpeg.f0b69e00096da267db2021f471c21a8c.jpeg

 

D. Nobilis seems to still grow pretty fast…C704ABBD-2035-4269-89E5-B9BBE1C7EB08.thumb.jpeg.72b1b7b53c14bcbccfec28adb2c76402.jpeg

 

K/C. Oliviformis seem frozen in time right now…581D2CDD-0650-4478-B6FA-B413AA958835.thumb.jpeg.c4304f456dd6c74468f84b9299ed712c.jpeg

 

Satakentia are still growing but have slowed down…. They still seem to want to stay wet in the cold also….  They would rather more shade at this age, but continue to cooperate to the best of their ability.   2AA03682-231B-4EED-919E-39C35EE35F4C.thumb.jpeg.096828713f6947d3562ccc4bb27505ae.jpeg
 

B. Alfredii seems to have slowed a bit, but is inching along…  I hope it’s laying down some good roots.  1925BF1E-F6AC-4255-B423-4137D4923EE5.thumb.jpeg.6564840597c038da5fdd04fe40f2eb9a.jpeg

Various R. Hildebrandtii still inch along if tucked in the shade and ignored…A130B7CF-533A-4754-AE92-D11F2ACFE735.thumb.jpeg.f77bfc556a7b510e8c10392adff826d7.jpeg

 

 

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Dartolution
9 minutes ago, Looking Glass said:

Heliconias blooming and out of control still…D63D678F-35AE-4758-B757-BAAE0A62E296.thumb.jpeg.a9b5d35e2014341c2cb1c61f1b1d917d.jpeg

@Looking Glass The level of jealousy I just experienced....

Beautiful group of heli's! *swoon*

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Looking Glass
24 minutes ago, Dartolution said:

@Looking Glass The level of jealousy I just experienced....

Beautiful group of heli's! *swoon*

I put them in 4 month ago….. good god….  I’m glad they are trapped in that box…. Lol.A10104E7-907B-4616-A695-05CB0CCD9F7C.thumb.jpeg.b40b4f7a0147fd168eca606154ebcdf3.jpeg

  Thirsty, but care free and overjoyed otherwise. I may have overdone the fertilizer.  

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Dartolution

Psittacorum's grow rapidly in the right climate and conditions. All I can have up here are potted ones that languish greatly in winter. 

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PalmTreeDude

I'm not in Florida but my Archontophoenix cunninghamiana that I grow with winter protection pushes growth in its protection, the average temperature in there is about 50°F. Here is a picture of it from a few weeks ago. 

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TheMadScientist

Everything you have posted has earned the word 'STUNNING".  I can't even find a piece of mulch out of place....BUT, I do want to acknowledge a palm that I enjoy each day....next to your bottle with a back drop of an Orange Jeep.....Chamaerops humilis.  So healthy looking and good to 6 deg. F.  Thank You for posting.

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2 hours ago, TheMadScientist said:

Everything you have posted has earned the word 'STUNNING".  I can't even find a piece of mulch out of place....BUT, I do want to acknowledge a palm that I enjoy each day....next to your bottle with a back drop of an Orange Jeep.....Chamaerops humilis.  So healthy looking and good to 6 deg. F.  Thank You for posting.

Ha, ha, ha!  You are too kind!  There’s plenty out of place around here.  But I’m always trying to improve and keep order.  

I was going to mention C. Humilis….  Always playing 2nd fiddle to the fat bottom bottle in that spot.   It’s not a speed demon, but has grown significantly in that spot this year.  

It seems to still be growing at a decent pace during the cool weather.  I wouldn’t say it had majorly slowed down.  It’s not a rare palm, but you don’t see them around here that often.   I like its spikeiness.   In time I hope it’s suckers form a branchy, bushy specimen there.  

It’s not fussy.  The only problem I have with it is the same with most of the others…. Potassium.   Everybody seems to need constant dosing in my yard or they spot up.   45E7E562-94D5-4691-A0A1-50AF39706556.thumb.jpeg.3f82b32f1cff66efee58a27270f4db1f.jpeg

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Jim in Los Altos

60s by day, 40s and 50s by night for a number of weeks here and heat loving palms like the Roystonea in the photos below which is opening a new frond as we speak, Bismarckia opened two fronds in December and January and palms like Archontophoenix are growing and flowering like crazy in the cool winter air. Perhaps it’s “stored” energy from warmer months that keeps them going. 
 

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D. Morrowii

When we had the first cool down in late November it seemed most of the stuff slowed pretty suddenly. It wasn't much but the plants noticed. Same as you mention @Looking Glass the P. sargentii slowed and didn't even really restart after the temps got warm again. Everything else did though. 
 

Slowed or suffered:

P. borsigianum (not surprisingly), O. trispatha, C. macrosperma, P. sargentii, B. nobilis 

Unphased (so far)

H. indica (red), N. storckii (kinda surprised leaf after leaf pushing out) D. lanceolata, P. caesia P. canariensis (was sulking for months) L. rupicola B. condopanna (doing better after night temps went down)

 D lanceolata and a few others just started looking better once the 82 deg nights ended. 

 

 

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Looking Glass
15 hours ago, D. Morrowii said:

When we had the first cool down in late November it seemed most of the stuff slowed pretty suddenly. It wasn't much but the plants noticed. Same as you mention @Looking Glass the P. sargentii slowed and didn't even really restart after the temps got warm again. Everything else did though. 
 

Slowed or suffered:

P. borsigianum (not surprisingly), O. trispatha, C. macrosperma, P. sargentii, B. nobilis 

Unphased (so far)

H. indica (red), N. storckii (kinda surprised leaf after leaf pushing out) D. lanceolata, P. caesia P. canariensis (was sulking for months) L. rupicola B. condopanna (doing better after night temps went down)

 D lanceolata and a few others just started looking better once the 82 deg nights ended. 

 

 

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That’s a great selection you’ve got there.  Of course, this weirdo is my favorite..  lol.   How does your B. condopana do in these parts?  Those look so great, but heard they are a hard grow in Florida.  

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D. Morrowii

@Looking Glass Thanks! 
The B. condopanna has only lived here in Florida since last May so not much of a trial yet. I got it as a 1gal. and have up-potted twice since then. It’s in a 3 gal container now and is doing very well so far. I think it is liking the warm day/cool night scenario better than the hot day/ hot night one. It just opened a new leaf a couple weeks ago and is already pushing a new spear now. All of October and November it sat in the yard in its pot and in full sun and didn't get any leaf burn. I think some July and August sun might req some shade cloth though. Either way the 3 gal will go in the ground in March with a little shade from a banana plant and we’ll see how it does then. I have 2 slightly smaller back ups just in case! 

I did see one of them in the ground at Leu Gardens a couple weeks ago, it was 5-6’ tall and a little stretched out probably from living in its mostly shaded spot.   

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D. Morrowii

Here’s a pic of the one I saw at Leu Gardens. Maybe @Eric in Orlando can tell us a little history on it? 

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On 1/14/2022 at 8:39 AM, D. Morrowii said:

Here’s a pic of the one I saw at Leu Gardens. Maybe @Eric in Orlando can tell us a little history on it? 

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That one has been in the ground for 2 or 3 years I'd have to check the records. It gets bright shade in the morning some more filtered light midday and more shade late afternoon. It has grown well but I have planted another elsewhere in the garden that gets light shade and it's doing well. They don't seem to thrive as much in the summer heat.

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Looking Glass
1 hour ago, Eric in Orlando said:

 They don't seem to thrive as much in the summer heat.

I planted D. Carlsmithii out in late fall, figuring that it would like the cooler nights and warm days better than the sweltering summer weather.  I wonder if it’s better to plant certain species like these, and the big dypsis, in fall around here?   …The ones that struggle to make it through Florida’s blazing hot summer days, and mushy hot summer nights, but like the cooler weather in other places.   

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1 hour ago, Eric in Orlando said:

That one has been in the ground for 2 or 3 years I'd have to check the records. It gets bright shade in the morning some more filtered light midday and more shade late afternoon. It has grown well but I have planted another elsewhere in the garden that gets light shade and it's doing well. They don't seem to thrive as much in the summer heat.

Cool, good to hear! A lot of the stuff I saw at the gardens gave hope for some of the stuff Im trying to grow. Thanks

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