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So Cal storm- Caryota Urens bites the dust

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We got some big winds in yesterday's storm. This Caryota Urens had started flowering, so I know it was on it's way out. But I figured I had until spring... 

 

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Riverside, CA Z 9b

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1 hour ago, doubravsky said:

 

We got some big winds in yesterday's storm. This Caryota Urens had started flowering, so I know it was on it's way out. But I figured I had until spring... 

Wind, rain and failing root system are not a good combo.  I was working from home yesterday and my wife asked me to come out due to a tall Hibiscus plant tipping over in the wind.  A nearby rain gutter downspout had completely soaked the planter it was in.  Unlike your Caryota, which if it hasn't already come down will need to now before it does major damage, I was able to prop up my hibiscus and trim off the top 2 feet to lower it's center of gravity.   As I walked around to the other side of my house, I found something similar happening with a guava tree laden with fruit.  It's the second time I've had to trim it mid-storm because it gets so heavy with fruit and leaves this time of year.  Winds were strong all over Southern California yesterday.  Any other damage in your garden and do you have someone lined up to finish the job on the Caryota before it crushes something or someone?

33.0782 North -117.305 West  at 72 feet elevation

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@doubravsky!!

CUT THAT [EXPLETIVE] CARYOTA DOWN NOW!

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@Tracy - no other damage I could see.... I noticed a bunch of Ensete leaves are all falling down... and a few fronds look broken on a few palms... but nothing major. We get pretty strong Santa Anas here in riverside so the wind is common. 

My palm trimmer says he'll be by tomorrow to drop the Urens.... 

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9 minutes ago, doubravsky said:

@Tracy - no other damage I could see.... I noticed a bunch of Ensete leaves are all falling down... and a few fronds look broken on a few palms... but nothing major. We get pretty strong Santa Anas here in riverside so the wind is common. 

My palm trimmer says he'll be by tomorrow to drop the Urens.... 

GOOD!

Hopefully first thing in the morning.

Meantime, I'd move anything you can out from under it, in case it keels over.

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@DoomsDave  Ouch! Hopefully mine will go away before destroying anything. That pic comes from my next door neighbor.... 

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Riverside, CA Z 9b

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@DoomsDave  Ouch! Hopefully mine will go away before destroying anything. That pic comes from my next door neighbor.... 

Praying for you both. :bemused:

My fishtail of terror took out the power to my house (destroyed the mast for the power lines which had to be replaced) and took out power to a good deal of the immediate neighborhood - on Super Bowl Sunday Eve, 2019.

Thank heaven no one got hurt or killed. And, everyone except my roommate and I got to watch the Stupor Bowl.

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So, @doubravsky and @Tracy how much rain did you guys get over in R-side and L-Cadia? I had about 1.5" in the OC. Some people in the West Valley in LA reported about 4.25."

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@DoomsDave  I don't have a rain gauge, so will go off the official numbers for Encinitas at 1.05" and Carlsbad Airport at 1.24.  I'm right on the edge of Carlsbad and Encinitas in Encinitas's "community" of Leucadia.  The hibiscus is in an area surrounded by hardscape on 3 sides and a raingutter downspout feeding into it, so it was getting soaked.  My sandy soil was saturated there.  Back to the main theme of the thread, the sooner that Caryota comes down the better, as you know from personal experience.

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Same thing happened to me several years ago. I had a 60' tall caryota Ochlandra or urens that fell over onto my house. Same thing as you, it had started to flower within the last year  and I was planning on having it taken down the next spring but an October Santa Ana event got to it first. I think that as they start they're dying process and the plant is using up all its energy in producing seed, it starts to die from the bottom up and the trunk wood gets stiffer and isn't as "green" flexible as it was before. Just my theory. Looks like you dodged a bullet with any major damage though. good luck. 

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5 hours ago, -2 brian said:

Same thing happened to me several years ago. I had a 60' tall caryota Ochlandra or urens that fell over onto my house. Same thing as you, it had started to flower within the last year  and I was planning on having it taken down the next spring but an October Santa Ana event got to it first. I think that as they start they're dying process and the plant is using up all its energy in producing seed, it starts to die from the bottom up and the trunk wood gets stiffer and isn't as "green" flexible as it was before. Just my theory. Looks like you dodged a bullet with any major damage though. good luck. 

I think the roots atrophy when the plant goes to seed, or even gets ready to bloom.

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Mine came down yesterday. Haven't seen it yet because I got home after dark from work and left while still dark (boo- I hate winter!). But no comment on the difficulty scale yet from the trimmer....

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