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Silver Queen in Myrtle Beach?

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General Sylvester D. Palm

I've heard of rumors of Silver Queens making it through the teens for several hours. Their USDA Hardiness zone is 8b which is the same as Myrtle Beach. So are they really THAT hardy?

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D Palm

About a decade ago it dipped down to 18-19 a few hours before dawn in N. Florida. The queens around my town look mostly fried but by May almost all recovered. At that time I did not know of such a variety nor did I have a palm tree in my yard. I think a healthy queen in general has a good shot of surviving a 18-19 degree dip every 5-10 years. They grow like rockets here so easy to replace if it does kick the bucket.

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Brad Mondel

I tried those as well in Myrtle Beach and they died in winter. 

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Laaz

My Uruguay Queen palm had spear pull at 16F, but did pull through & is now about 20 ft tall.

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General Sylvester D. Palm
9 hours ago, Brad Mondel said:

I tried those as well in Myrtle Beach and they died in winter. 

Well where do you live in Myrtle Beach? You have zone 8a in your location bio. I am in 8b.

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DAVEinMB

@General Sylvester D. Palm I'm trialing 3 standard, 2 Uruguay, and 1 silver. 2 of the 3 standard are about to go through their first winter and were planted as 7 gallon, the other standard has been through 1 winter with no protection and didn't burn - it was planted as a 1 gallon iirc. The 2 Uruguay were planted this spring as seedlings and they're small enough to put a 5 gallon bucket over this winter if it gets cold enough.  The silver was planted last year as a liner and was protected this past winter. It burned and has been slow to grow this season. I'm tracking their progress in a separate thread I believe, if I can find it I'll link it in

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3 minutes ago, DAVEinMB said:

@General Sylvester D. Palm I'm trialing 3 standard, 2 Uruguay, and 1 silver. 2 of the 3 standard are about to go through their first winter and were planted as 7 gallon, the other standard has been through 1 winter with no protection and didn't burn - it was planted as a 1 gallon iirc. The 2 Uruguay were planted this spring as seedlings and they're small enough to put a 5 gallon bucket over this winter if it gets cold enough.  The silver was planted last year as a liner and was protected this past winter. It burned and has been slow to grow this season. I'm tracking their progress in a separate thread I believe, if I can find it I'll link it in

Hm, I ordered some seeds off of eBay for the Silver. The guy lives in Bluffton SC which is 8b. He says that he has had a Silver Queen there 10 years with no protection and no burns. The seeds are coming from that Queen. Fingers crossed...

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Laaz

Lol! If he's claiming it had no damage in the January 2018 freeze he's full of it.

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DAVEinMB
32 minutes ago, General Sylvester D. Palm said:

Hm, I ordered some seeds off of eBay for the Silver. The guy lives in Bluffton SC which is 8b. He says that he has had a Silver Queen there 10 years with no protection and no burns. The seeds are coming from that Queen. Fingers crossed...

I got mine as well as a Roebelenii x Dactylifera from MPOP.

https://www.mulepalmsofmississippi.com/

 

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Laaz

This is a unknown queen I got for $2.97 I got on clearance from Lowes. It had spear pull but came right back & is now over 25 ft tall.

 

 

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General Sylvester D. Palm
23 hours ago, Laaz said:

Lol! If he's claiming it had no damage in the January 2018 freeze he's full of it.

I messaged him and he said that he wrapped the trunk but didn't wrap the fronds. He said the fronds suffered some damage.

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Laaz

Lmfao!

 

 

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Laaz

Front view from the street.

 

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General Sylvester D. Palm
On 9/25/2021 at 10:15 AM, DAVEinMB said:

@General Sylvester D. Palm I'm trialing 3 standard, 2 Uruguay, and 1 silver. 2 of the 3 standard are about to go through their first winter and were planted as 7 gallon, the other standard has been through 1 winter with no protection and didn't burn - it was planted as a 1 gallon iirc. The 2 Uruguay were planted this spring as seedlings and they're small enough to put a 5 gallon bucket over this winter if it gets cold enough.  The silver was planted last year as a liner and was protected this past winter. It burned and has been slow to grow this season. I'm tracking their progress in a separate thread I believe, if I can find it I'll link it in

You do have to remember that all palms (even if they are the same species) have different genetics. This year in the Texas freeze when it got down to 0 degrees for 2 nights, two Silver Queens made it through (yes, of course, it lost all of it's fronds). Your Silver Queen might not be as hardy as some others. Your normal Queens might be hardier than other normal Queens. Genetics can play a massive roll.

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DAVEinMB
10 hours ago, General Sylvester D. Palm said:

You do have to remember that all palms (even if they are the same species) have different genetics. This year in the Texas freeze when it got down to 0 degrees for 2 nights, two Silver Queens made it through (yes, of course, it lost all of it's fronds). Your Silver Queen might not be as hardy as some others. Your normal Queens might be hardier than other normal Queens. Genetics can play a massive roll.

Oh yea for sure. I'm not saying the standards are hardier, just reporting on what I'm seeing first hand. Planting location is a factor as well. 

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11 hours ago, DAVEinMB said:

Oh yea for sure. I'm not saying the standards are hardier, just reporting on what I'm seeing first hand. Planting location is a factor as well. 

Yeah, location does have a massive role on it too.

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