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Trachycarpus Bulgaria


GregVirginia7

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Are there distinguishing characteristics for this Trachy? I’ve read they have thicker trunks and bright yellow tips on their more rigid leaf segments?

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I don't know of any myself.  I have a small 4' potted one.  I'd question it's hardiness compared to fortunei as I believe most of these cold hardiness claims of different fortunei varieties are mostly nonsense.  Lots of growers try to get seed from stiffer frond examples of Trachycarpus as a rule.  

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A frustrating problem with small, potted Trachycarpus fortunei is spear pull in the spring.  Growers in North Florida have reported problems after 29F with frost.  I have never experienced that problem with Trachycarpus 'Bulgaria'.  I get my seeds from the real deal in Bulgaria.

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3 hours ago, Steve in Florida said:

A frustrating problem with small, potted Trachycarpus fortunei is spear pull in the spring.  Growers in North Florida have reported problems after 29F with frost.  I have never experienced that problem with Trachycarpus 'Bulgaria'.  I get my seeds from the real deal in Bulgaria.

I know you have the real deal Steve!  I wish the larger palms could be tested some way to determine their hardiness.  I think University of FL did that with some fortunei before by sticking them in a freezer and testing tissue damage.  Hopefully Bulgaria will be noticeably hardier than the other palms and my area should be a good test as Trachy will die here in a bad winter unprotected.  When doing a google search I found some outlandish claims (Hardy to zone 4 LOL) but this page seems to try to put together the differences.   

https://www.polarpalm.net/en/bul4.html

The question is - if a regular fortunei is hardy to say 5-10F, then what is a Bulgaria hardy to in the same conditions? Of course a dry Trachy might go to 0F or so.

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What about heat tolerance? And would it affect cold tolerance in the same tree? Curious the variations could be complex. 

Has anyone grown bulgaria types in hotter places? I bought over 1,000 seeds of one type because I liked the stiff fronds that appear Bulgaria-like.... but only 13 seedlings.

Maybe it's not a Bulgarian trait but I love it when the bottom leaves turn a bright yellow. I see it usually in similar looking trachys...  with the firm fronds. I've only seen one like it locally though

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