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So the filifera didn't make it and I thought it was a complete goner but I might of made a mistake but it was showing no signs of improvement so I hacked it because I thought it was gone but it had some green still left just a little bit but it wasn't visible to me so it way to late now if their was a chance of recovery but it had a lot of rot going on in the small trunk it had which just crumbled so this is all that left </3 :(

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teddytn

Sucks bro, but part of the palm game for sure. Guaranteed everyone on this forum has lost plants. Really the only way to learn how to keep them alive. 

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ZPalms
7 hours ago, teddytn said:

Sucks bro, but part of the palm game for sure. Guaranteed everyone on this forum has lost plants. Really the only way to learn how to keep them alive. 

I knew it was coming, I might of been able to catch it if I knew it was experiencing rot which sucks but in the name of this palm I'll buy some filifera seeds and grow some in it's name! :crying::wub:

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ZPalms

Anyone know good source of filifera seeds?

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PalmatierMeg

Filifera have trouble surviving the SE US rainy, humid climate. You are better off with filibusta or pure robusta

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teddytn
5 hours ago, ZPalms said:

I knew it was coming, I might of been able to catch it if I knew it was experiencing rot which sucks but in the name of this palm I'll buy some filifera seeds and grow some in it's name! :crying::wub:

At least washies grow really fast. You’ll have one bigger than that in no time 

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ZPalms
5 hours ago, teddytn said:

At least washies grow really fast. You’ll have one bigger than that in no time 

They are catching up big time! :wub:  Just ashamed this one never got a shot at living :crying:

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DCA_Palm_Fan
11 hours ago, ZPalms said:

They are catching up big time! :wub:  Just ashamed this one never got a shot at living :crying:

Don't be.  We've all lost palms over the years.  Even the most seasoned growers.   It happens.  All we can do is learn and try to do better in the future with the knowledge we have gained.   You'll do just fine in the future.  

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oasis371

What was said above about W. filifera in the East is very true..., they absolutely HATE our HUMID summers.  I once planted a bunch of filifera and robust seeds. All the robustas were fine and all the the fileras ended up dead.  All my Washys are either robusta or filibusta.  If you like growing from seed, also try Phoenix canariensis (Canary Island Date), "true date" (P. dactylifera) prefers a drier atmosphere. Try Butia/Pindo palms too from seed.  I have not grown Butias from seed,  but they are without exception, my biggest palms from seedlings.  Good luck!

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JLM

The soil in the picture looks very, very wet. Filifera is cold hardier, yet doesnt tolerate quite as much water. If you're looking for a palm to keep in a pot for a while, find a Robusta or Filibusta, as said above.

You're not alone on losing palms. Ive lost several. I lost a Majesty, 5 Pygmy Dates, a Sabal palmetto seedling (one that i sprouted from seed, it just never grew and eventually the new leaf came out), 2 larger Sabal palmetto (i should've listened to the advice of never digging them up until they have at least 4 ft of trunk). I have come close to losing other Pygmy dates and a Queen (extremely pot bound, in the ground and doing well now though), and my first Foxtail. I also sprouted several Bismarckia seeds, only 2 are growing, out of those 2, only one of them is thriving. Its all part of the challenge :evil:

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4 hours ago, JLM said:

The soil in the picture looks very, very wet. Filifera is cold hardier, yet doesnt tolerate quite as much water. If you're looking for a palm to keep in a pot for a while, find a Robusta or Filibusta, as said above.

You're not alone on losing palms. Ive lost several. I lost a Majesty, 5 Pygmy Dates, a Sabal palmetto seedling (one that i sprouted from seed, it just never grew and eventually the new leaf came out), 2 larger Sabal palmetto (i should've listened to the advice of never digging them up until they have at least 4 ft of trunk). I have come close to losing other Pygmy dates and a Queen (extremely pot bound, in the ground and doing well now though), and my first Foxtail. I also sprouted several Bismarckia seeds, only 2 are growing, out of those 2, only one of them is thriving. Its all part of the challenge :evil:

I can't bear to lose any palms :floor2: This one was given to me but it was already struggling from the humidity and the soil was wet in the bag cause I accidentally wet it and put hydrogen peroxide on it for some reason LOL, Hopefully I don't lose anymore cause caterpillars have been trying to attack my little collection and they are getting on my nerves!!

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JLM
2 hours ago, ZPalms said:

I can't bear to lose any palms :floor2: This one was given to me but it was already struggling from the humidity and the soil was wet in the bag cause I accidentally wet it and put hydrogen peroxide on it for some reason LOL, Hopefully I don't lose anymore cause caterpillars have been trying to attack my little collection and they are getting on my nerves!!

Im doing spider research this morning, trying to determine these spiders that are pretty much everywhere in the backyard. These spiders move so fast, its hard to get rid of them.

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ZPalms
1 hour ago, JLM said:

Im doing spider research this morning, trying to determine these spiders that are pretty much everywhere in the backyard. These spiders move so fast, its hard to get rid of them.

Are they jumping spiders? I have a couple of them and they move quick but I prefer them on the palms than anything else so they catch pest!! :P

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JLM
24 minutes ago, ZPalms said:

Are they jumping spiders? I have a couple of them and they move quick but I prefer them on the palms than anything else so they catch pest!! :P

Not jumping spiders, although i do see a couple from time to time.

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PalmatierMeg

Spiders are carnivorous so won't attack your palms but will eat insects that attack palms.

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OC2Texaspalmlvr
On 8/30/2021 at 4:31 PM, PalmatierMeg said:

Filifera have trouble surviving the SE US rainy, humid climate. You are better off with filibusta or pure robusta

Around here in South Houston there is a Grove of pure W.Filifera in Texas City on my way to work. They did much better then Robusta during Palmageddon. Also were almost as sweltering and humid as say Florida. The Grove is in the middle of a construction laydown yard so they literally are on there own. I'll try to get a puc of them one day on the way home they are glorious. 

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1 hour ago, OC2Texaspalmlvr said:

Around here in South Houston there is a Grove of pure W.Filifera in Texas City on my way to work. They did much better then Robusta during Palmageddon. Also were almost as sweltering and humid as say Florida. The Grove is in the middle of a construction laydown yard so they literally are on there own. I'll try to get a puc of them one day on the way home they are glorious. 

T J 

Sounds awesome! How are they surviving with intense humidity?

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OC2Texaspalmlvr
7 hours ago, ZPalms said:

Sounds awesome! How are they surviving with intense humidity?

Honestly I don't think it's the humidity. Mostly this area is gumbo clay too so you would think that's another strike against them for here but yet they seem to have no problem growing and surviving. 

T J 

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OC2Texaspalmlvr

I slowed down to take a couple pics finally @ZPalms

T J 

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ZPalms
6 hours ago, OC2Texaspalmlvr said:

I slowed down to take a couple pics finally @ZPalms

T J 

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Oh wow! They look awesome! :wub:  What's their secret? :floor: are they filifera dominated hybrid? or are they pure filifera?

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OC2Texaspalmlvr
4 hours ago, ZPalms said:

Oh wow! They look awesome! :wub:  What's their secret? :floor: are they filifera dominated hybrid? or are they pure filifera?

To my eye there pure Filifera with not a Robusta around. I wish I could get some seed from them. 

T J 

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ZPalms
6 hours ago, OC2Texaspalmlvr said:

To my eye there pure Filifera with not a Robusta around. I wish I could get some seed from them. 

T J 

If you ever do decide to get seeds from them I would love to buy some!

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RyManUtah
On 8/30/2021 at 2:28 PM, ZPalms said:

Anyone know good source of filifera seeds?

I have some seeds from this guy if you’d like. He’s kinda growing by himself in the middle of the desert. I grabbed them off the ground in June, likely from last winters set. 

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ZPalms
6 minutes ago, RyManUtah said:

I have some seeds from this guy if you’d like. He’s kinda growing by himself in the middle of the desert. I grabbed them off the ground in June, likely from last winters set. 

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Why is that actually kind of cute but sad to me that hes out their all by himself with no friends nearby! I'm interested in some!!!! :D The crown looks amazing, would definitely appreciate it! :wub:

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Justin31703

Ill take some seed also if your willing to. Beautiful palm. Where is it located? 

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RyManUtah
3 minutes ago, Justin31703 said:

Ill take some seed also. Beautiful palm. Where is it located? 

For sure. Abandoned gas station (now demolished) east of Glendale, NV - 8b.

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ZPalms

Went on google maps to check out that filifera growth through the years and it's grown very little since 2007 so it must not receive much water out there but still a beast! Did the gas station plant it?

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RyManUtah
3 hours ago, ZPalms said:

Went on google maps to check out that filifera growth through the years and it's grown very little since 2007 so it must not receive much water out there but still a beast! Did the gas station plant it?

Probably - I’m uncertain.  There is no water to it. I like the odd ball trees growing without it. 

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ZPalms

I'm curious, does humidity and rain play a part in how full a filifera crown is? I've seen some photos of filiferas in florida that have very horizontal flat crowns and not really a puffy ball look to them

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RyManUtah
40 minutes ago, ZPalms said:

I'm curious, does humidity and rain play a part in how full a filifera crown is? I've seen some photos of filiferas in florida that have very horizontal flat crowns and not really a puffy ball look to them

I would assume so. Most of their native range is well below 30% humidity, almost always. 

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kinzyjr
On 9/10/2021 at 7:04 PM, RyManUtah said:

I have some seeds from this guy if you’d like. He’s kinda growing by himself in the middle of the desert. I grabbed them off the ground in June, likely from last winters set. 

Is this the one off of I-15?

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RyManUtah
38 minutes ago, kinzyjr said:

Is this the one off of I-15?

Indeed :greenthumb:

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kinzyjr
20 hours ago, RyManUtah said:

Indeed :greenthumb:

If you have any you don't want, I'll gladly give them a home with the rest of their brethren in the desert garden out back.  And, of course, compensate you appropriately for your trouble.

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