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Many of you order from Floribunda, but mine was a relatively large order so I thought you might find it interesting to see my relatively large delivery. The reason it was large was because:

1) I'm completely redoing my yard front & back.
2) I like the "multiple" look with some of these.
3) My parents and sister would like some plants as well.
4) I'm paranoid I'm going to kill some of them, so ordered more than I need to "hedge my bets". Worst case I'll sell or trade the extra plants.

Experience was same as has been described by others... Filled out the order form from website stock, got a call from Jeff to review the order (and get to know me), paid for plants before they shipped, and shipping/handling after they arrived (S&H was approx 35% of plant cost, which is fair considering most were in pots).

Upon arrival I carefully unpacked the plants (which were packed amazingly well) and lined them up for their photoshoot. I used a ruler so I could track growth and measured the nicest plant of each type. Ruler was in 3-inch increments, measured from the TOP of the pot (not the ground).

I'll post the photos here in case it's helpful for anyone else planning a Floribunda order (or "palm porn" for the rest of us). Night shots just to be different ;-)

* If replying about a specific plant, try to include only that plant in your reply and delete the others (if you can). I'm curious if any comments. For me the "Pinanga Javana" was the biggest surprise (only 4" but HUGE). We repotted some of these already, and are excited to watch them grow over the years.

Group photo:

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Bentinckia condapanna (1g):

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Burretiokentia vielillardii (1g):

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Chuniophoenix hainanensis (4"):

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Clinostigma savoryanum (4"):

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Cyphophoenix nucele (4"):

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Cyphosperma balansae (1g):

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Dypsis baronii (1g):

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Dypsis baronii “black stem” (seedlings) & 
Dypsis "lafamazanga" (seedlings):

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Dypsis lanceolata (1g):

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Dypsis leptocheilos (1g):

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Dypsis "maroantsetra" (1g):

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Dypsis onilahensis “weepy”  (4"):

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Dypsis "orange crush" (1g):

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Dypsis pembana (1g):

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Dypsis saintelucei (1g):

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Euterpe edulis “orange crownshaft” (1g):

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Licuala distans (4"):

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Pinanga coronata (1g):

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Pinanga javana (4"):

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Pinanga philippinensis (1g):

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Pritchardia martii (4"):

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Verschaffeltia splendida (4"):

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Enjoy!

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Eastendr

You're going to have an amazing yard!

(My favorite is Bentinckia condapanna. I have one I am currently nursing in a pot.)

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WaianaeCrider

Wow!!!  You gonna be busy taking care of all them....That's huge.  my biggest so far has been about 17 one gal pots.  I've go another planned for about 22 all 1 gal size....but I won't do it all at once.  Gotta think about where to keep them till I can clear and plant.   Good luck.  I like your measuring stick.  Mine si a 7' tall bamboo stalk cemented in a one gal pot.  Only marked every foot.

 

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23 minutes ago, WaianaeCrider said:

Wow!!!  You gonna be busy taking care of all them....That's huge.  my biggest so far has been about 17 one gal pots.  I've go another planned for about 22 all 1 gal size....but I won't do it all at once.  Gotta think about where to keep them till I can clear and plant.   Good luck.  I like your measuring stick.  Mine si a 7' tall bamboo stalk cemented in a one gal pot.  Only marked every foot.

 

I was actually inspired by your measuring stick to make one for myself!

You're correct that it was a LOT of plants. Here's the total of what I ordered with quantities...

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Very likely overkill... but I can think of worse fates than having a few extra exotic palms (as long as they're still in pots). I'll just sell or trade any extras I may have when the smoke clears.

I mostly tried to pick ones that are likely do well in California. Ok, with the exception of the Vershaffeltia splendida... that one is going to need to come in the house in the winter (and will likely die). But I saw one when I was at Rancho Soledad (recent Hawaii import) and it took my breath away... so had to try it. But other than that one I'm hopeful they might all grow. If not, I have other options.

Here's that Vershaffeltia I saw at Rancho Soledad that made me buy that last palm. People shouldn't tease Californians with palms that shouldn't be here... makes us think we can grow them! Those ones will likely die on me, but it will be fun to try ;-)

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Seen in Southern California... alive but a recent import. Such a tease!

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The Gerg

It’s never overkill no matter what my wife says.

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Hilo Jason

Great post, photos and information!  I hope they do great for you and look forward to seeing updates about them here on Palm talk! 

 

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"4) I'm paranoid I'm going to kill some of them, so ordered more than I need to "hedge my bets". Worst case I'll sell or trade the extra plants."

that's just reality, it's going to happen.  I get a fix once a year from Jeff, everything is always great.

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23 hours ago, idesign123 said:

Very likely overkill... but I can think of worse fates than having a few extra exotic palms (as long as they're still in pots). I'll just sell or trade any extras I may have when the smoke clears.

I mostly tried to pick ones that are likely do well in California.

Thanks for all the great photos, there are quite a few in there that I'll be ordering myself!  I had a hard time narrowing it down to ones that will survive in central FL zone 9B/9A borderline.  Some of them will survive here, but not in the alkaline soils of South FL.  And some will survive in South FL soils or central FL soils...but not in zone 9B!  :D

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Oops, forgot the box photos...

FIVE boxes in total:

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All packed expertly.:

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Go big or go home, right? Thanks again to Jeff and Suchin for making these amazing palms accessible in large quantities (to those of us patient enough to grow them out). Looking forward to furthering my palm adventures (I bought several "big boy" palms previously).

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WaianaeCrider

I'm sure the UPS guy hates you.  LOL  Them things are HEAVY.

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On 7/18/2021 at 2:15 PM, iDesign said:

I was actually inspired by your measuring stick to make one for myself!

You're correct that it was a LOT of plants. Here's the total of what I ordered with quantities...

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Very likely overkill... but I can think of worse fates than having a few extra exotic palms (as long as they're still in pots). I'll just sell or trade any extras I may have when the smoke clears.

I mostly tried to pick ones that are likely do well in California. Ok, with the exception of the Vershaffeltia splendida... that one is going to need to come in the house in the winter (and will likely die). But I saw one when I was at Rancho Soledad (recent Hawaii import) and it took my breath away... so had to try it. But other than that one I'm hopeful they might all grow. If not, I have other options.

Here's that Vershaffeltia I saw at Rancho Soledad that made me buy that last palm. People shouldn't tease Californians with palms that shouldn't be here... makes us think we can grow them! Those ones will likely die on me, but it will be fun to try ;-)

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Seen in Southern California... alive but a recent import. Such a tease!

You might try Vershaffeltia splendida seeds indoors. I've had way better luck germinating them indoors and KEEPING them indoors here in Nebraska. Any one I've bought from a seedling to a tall 1 gallon dies within a week.

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Kim

Why mess around, right? Make it happen! Really enjoyed the photos. If you come to the IPS Biennial and visit Floribunda, you will be in total shock. In a good way! :rolleyes:

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iDesign

Two more packages arrived this week, so more photos coming soon!

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kinzyjr

@iDesign Nice haul with more to come!  A very exciting time in the garden!

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BayAndroid

Wow, that's a big order! Congratulations I kept my Floribunda Palms in pots in the garage (all winter) and now a year later, it's time to plant in the ground. I'll likely be doing it this weekend! 

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11 hours ago, sashaeffer said:

You might try Vershaffeltia splendida seeds indoors. I've had way better luck germinating them indoors and KEEPING them indoors here in Nebraska. Any one I've bought from a seedling to a tall 1 gallon dies within a week.

That's interesting; I've had a small seedling indoors for about a year and it has been completely trouble-free and has been putting out leaves pretty quickly (for a palm). It just needs warmth and water and reasonable light. Were your seedlings/larger ones sent bare-root, by any chance? I don't know how root-sensitive Verschaffeltia is, but if they were bare-root, that would be an obvious hypothesis, particularly in the case of bigger ones dying within a week. Alternatively, I wonder if they were all exposed to fatally-low temperatures en route to you. It's quite difficult to kill a palm that quickly; if they were simply objecting to your conditions, I think they would slowly decline over a much longer period.

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redbeard917

I agree that palms often look great in groups. Looking forward to their growth.

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96720

You can not go wrong ordering from Flouibunda the palms are great the shipping is great easy to unpack!! When I order from jungle music it takes we a week to unwrap them and buy then they are all stressed! Flouibunda’s are shipped all the way from Hawaii and easy to unwrap and no damage!! 

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John hovancsek

I remember pulling this order and was thinking some is going to be really busy or it was for resale . Keep us posted 

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Here are photos from this Spring's order. Individual plant photos in the next post (shot at night again, just to be different). Measuring stick is in 2" spacing this time, measured from top of dirt (not bottom of pot).

But first a group photo + list of plants ordered in this round...

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I'm planning to also give a one-year update on my original (huge) 2021 order later this Summer... but gonna try to get as close to 1 year growth time as possible, to give an accurate record of 1 year growth in SoCal. But for now, on to the new recruits (in Alphabetical order)!!!

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Anthurium pseudospectabile (4"):
Not a palm, but we were very happy with last year's group, so ordered 2 more. Surprisingly the new ones are as large as the now 1-year old ones.

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Areca vestaria (1g);
I know!!! (covers ears)... But I saw photos of a living one in SoCal in the forum, and just have to try. This plus the red version are the "zone pushing" experiments for this order.

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Areca vestaria "red" (1g);
Most likely to be buried next to the other Areca.

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Dypsis sp "Bef" (4"):

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Dypsis sp "Bejouf" (seedling) + Dypsis leucomalla (seedling):

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Dypsis carlsmithii (1g):

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Dypsis hovomantsina (4"):

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Dypsis mananjarensis (seedlings):

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Dypsis prestoniana (1g):

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Dypsis robusta (4"):

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Dypsis rosea (1g):

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Dypsis sp "Orange Crush" (4"):

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Dypsis sp "Maroantsetra" (4"):

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Hyophorbe indica "red" (1g):

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Kerriodoxa elegans (seedling):

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Lanonia dasyantha (4"):

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Enjoy!!!

* If quoting, please include just the plant you're commenting on (if possible). Hoping to use this thread to track my Floribunda babies' growth over the next couple years, while possibly helping a fellow palm collector. My collection is particularly Dypsis-heavy (obviously my favorite genus).

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@iDesign do you plant these right in the ground? I also got a order from Flouibunda I always get the largest palms available always hope for 1gal. Mine go straight into the greenhouse for at least a year. No Dypsis for Phoenix but I did get a prestoniana hybrid probably for the mulch pile but if you don’t try you never know. Good luck with your order!

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49 minutes ago, 96720 said:

@iDesign do you plant these right in the ground?... Mine go straight into the greenhouse for at least a year.

I don't have a greenhouse... mantra for my yard is "Shelter the Casualties and Propagate the Survivors!" 

Approx 5 of last years' Floribunda purchases have been planted so far. A lot will go in the ground Spring of 2023 (at 2 year mark for most of them). In the meantime, I have them in pots with drip irrigation. Here are a few of their hiding spots (most are under a group of Phoenix roebelenii which some of them will eventually replace)...

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We do have a few areas indoors where we could bring in the most tender plants during a freeze, but the one week we did it this winter, we left the majority of our Floribunda babies outside. Here's what my Atrium looked like during that week (the two big palms came inside this time since they were recently living in a greenhouse... but they'll have to stay out next winter).

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Ours is a relatively large lot (by California standards), so a lot of the plants will find their forever homes in my yard. The rest will be sold (at some point) to help justify the money I've invested in my hobby so far. I believe it was someone on Palmtalk who said they sell so they can buy (though this will likely be several years in the future). For now they're all just "hanging out" in various places in the yard.

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As I read the beginning of this thread, I was thinking…. “What’s missing is some of the big Dypsis.”  Then as I got to the end I was thinking…. “Not anymore”.   

My vestiarias fried last year with just a little morning Florida sun, so I’d give them a very long time to adjust.  

You’re adventurous for sure.   You are going to have one hell of an amazing garden after 10 years!  
 

Look forward to the pics as you move long.   Don’t be stingy with them.  

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My Roebelinii also turn out to make excellent nursemaids for floribunda babies.  And other potted stuff. 

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Billeb

……ok, got it. Every big bodied Dypsis available. 
 

-dale

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34 minutes ago, Looking Glass said:

As I read the beginning of this thread, I was thinking…. “What’s missing is some of the big Dypsis.”  Then as I got to the end I was thinking…. “Not anymore”.   

With my first order I was afraid to order any big Dypsis, though I'm not exactly sure why. It's not like they're going to chase me around the yard. Seriously, I realize the "Big Boy" Dypsis need space - and the reality is that I can likely only accommodate 4-8 of them in my yard. The real problem is that I'm still confused as to which types I want... SO much confusion out there in the big Dypsis front!

This time I decided to just bite the bullet and order some (pretty much all) of the Big Dypsis types. I figure I can sell any extras... just need to do it before they become "monsters".

* Not worried at all about the Dypsis leucomalla (and most of the others) becoming a "monster"... but I'll need to either plant or sell the Prestoniana & Robusta before they get too huge. Hopefully I'll know better which types are keepers before the "big boys" take over the house :evil:

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26 minutes ago, iDesign said:

With my first order I was afraid to order any big Dypsis, though I'm not exactly sure why. It's not like they're going to chase me around the yard. Seriously, I realize the "Big Boy" Dypsis need space - and the reality is that I can likely only accommodate 4-8 of them in my yard. The real problem is that I'm still confused as to which types I want... SO much confusion out there in the big Dypsis front!

This time I decided to just bite the bullet and order some (pretty much all) of the Big Dypsis types. I figure I can sell any extras... just need to do it before they become "monsters".

* Not worried at all about the Dypsis leucomalla (and most of the others) becoming a "monster"... but I'll need to either plant or sell the Prestoniana & Robusta before they get too huge. Hopefully I'll know better which types are keepers before the "big boys" take over the house :evil:

Dark mealybug, dark mealy bug!  

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Areca’s are neat palms I already destroyed some in my last order but I had to order the catechu dwarf a palm I love but probably won’t grow here but I’m loving it in the greenhouse!!!

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21 minutes ago, Looking Glass said:

Dark mealybug, dark mealy bug!  

Ha! You just named the one “big boy” Dypsis I originally had on my list but removed due to posts saying they do badly in CA. Yet now I have to wonder...

See why I ended up just buying 1-2 of each big boy Dypsis (to sort out later)?! Now watch... someone is going to post their amazing California-grown Dypsis “Dark Mealy Bug”, and I’ll be kicking myself for dropping it from my order :violin:

* In all seriousness, I realize I can’t accommodate that many “big boy” Dypsis in my yard. I just need a little more time to figure out which ones to pick, and figure there’s no harm in letting a gang of big boy plants hang out here while I figure it out (and watch how other people’s do).

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16 minutes ago, iDesign said:

Ha! You just named the one “big boy” Dypsis I originally had on my list but removed due to posts saying they do badly in CA. Yet now I have to wonder...

See why I ended up just buying 1-2 of each big boy Dypsis (to sort out later)?! Now watch... someone is going to post their amazing California-grown Dypsis “Dark Mealy Bug”, and I’ll be kicking myself for dropping it from my order :violin:

* In all seriousness, I realize I can’t accommodate that many “big boy” Dypsis in my yard. I just need a little more time to figure out which ones to pick, and figure there’s no harm in letting a gang of big boy plants hang out here while I figure it out (and watch how other people’s do).

Something about dark mealybug that I love.  I hear most of the big dypsis are pretty slow to start.  You are doing better than me though.   By my space calculations I can have only one big dypsis here, where not many big dypsis love it, so I went with Carlsmithii.   Less that a year in the ground so far, so who knows?   Putting out 8 foot leaves every 3 months or so.  Probably too much sun at this age, but it’s growing.  
 

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19 minutes ago, Looking Glass said:

Something about dark mealybug that I love... I went with Carlsmithii.

Carlsmithii should do better than dark mealy bug at my location (based on posts I’ve read). My Floribunda “Carl” is actually just a backup for a larger one I bought from a Palmtalk member (yes, I have MORE palms in addition to the Floribunda ones). Here’s my “Big Carl” (which will be getting planted soon)...

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I also have an amazing “regular” mealy bug palm, so no tears will be shed over the “dark” one (palm on right is my Ravenna sambirinensis... both can also be seen in the “atrium” shot above).

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Yep, I’m a palm nut for sure :blink:

* My husband also loves palms so we kinda enable each other. We’re seriously at the end of the “acquiring” phase though (“yeah, they all say that”).

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1 hour ago, iDesign said:

…..I realize the "Big Boy" Dypsis need space - and the reality is that I can likely only accommodate 4-8 of them in my yard….

Haha! She said “only 4-8”. That’s a good one :floor:

-dale

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51 minutes ago, Billeb said:

Haha! She said “only 4-8”. That’s a good one :floor:

Relatively large lot... and majority of grass is being removed next Spring (good riddance). There's enough room... or at least will be soon B)

I'm also being very strategic with my planning in regard to ultimate height/layering (e.g., larger palms in corners, smaller palms in between + alternate palms with other tropical plants).  There will be a pathway that goes from the front yard to the back, with all palms being visible as you walk.

While I do plan to put a ton of palms in the yard, I also want to ensure there isn't too much frond overlap or visual blocking (other than neighbor views... trying to block neighbors out as much as possible). My plan isn't perfect, but I'm optimistic I can make it look good. Everything is being mapped out in Photoshop first, which helps a lot. 

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Looking Glass

I feel like many of the big dypsis are more like really big cycads for many years, before they become tall.  Especially for us non-Hawaiians.   

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palmfriend

I have just noticed this threat - your first order is already very impressive, definitely a great choice!

Some of them will take longer, others might be a failure - but I guess many of them are going to provide you and your husband many years of joy!

I really wish you all the best with them - and please keep us posted!

 

best regards

Lars

 

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Palm Tree Jim

5 years ago, I ordered a bunch of Lanonia's from Jeff for planting in Southern California. 

They all thrived and grew at a decent rate.

 You will be very happy with these as understory plants in the future. Best of luck with them!

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Frond-friend42

Floribundance. Way to go. Hahaha ha.  Palm Party!

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Billy

So many cool palms! Hopefully the cyphosperma balansae does well here...I'd love to plant one but the biggest one I can get my hands on so far is a 1 gallon. Patience is the name of the game I suppose. Have you heard of any success stories of cyphosperma doing well here in coastal North County? Good luck with all your palms, I'm sure they're loving the nice weather we've been having the last few days. 

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iDesign
37 minutes ago, Billy said:

Have you heard of any success stories of cyphosperma doing well here in coastal North County?

This thread has a lot of great info on cyphosperma in CA. Amazing Hawaii pics as well, but they're much smaller here of course. Not much to report on mine yet, but they look good so far (in partial shade).

Hope that helps!

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