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Will these still unripe 14 fruits also produce viable seeds?

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Pal Meir

The 4 (of 15, not 14) most developed fruits:

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Scott W

Wow, very nice @Pal Meir

Hoping someday to be able to add this to my collection as well.

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Laaz

How are the seeds coming along?

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Pal Meir
21 minutes ago, Laaz said:

How are the seeds coming along?

:interesting: ……

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Pal Meir

The new 8 fruits of the 2nd inflorescence of N°1601 don’t look so happy: 

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Pal Meir

……:drool:…… can’t wait: 

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Pal Meir

Now only 14 fruits left …

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Scott W

Definitely looks like there's hope!

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Pal Meir

Hmm, only six (6) fruits on N°1601 …: :unsure:

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But the 2nd inflorescence of N°1604 looks much more hopeful: :interesting:

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Pal Meir

And the next one fruiting: 

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The 2nd inflorescence of N°1604 looking still hopeful: 

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Update of the other inflorescences: 

N°1601-2nd: only 5 fruits; N°1604-1st: still 14 fruits

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Pal Meir

Update 2021-08-28:

N°1604 #1: 13 fruits (still green); N°1601 #2: 5 fruits; N°1603 #1: 4 fruits

N°1604 #2: 33 fruits ??? :interesting: ???

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Pal Meir
6 minutes ago, Pal Meir said:

Update 2021-08-28:

N°1604 #1: 13 fruits (still green); N°1601 #2: 5 fruits; N°1603 #1: 4 fruits

N°1604 #2: 33 fruits ??? :interesting: ???

Oops: N°1604 #2: 34 fruits ??? :interesting: ???

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Pal Meir

The next fruit from N°1604 #1 has fallen down, so there are only eleven left, but in contrast to the former two it is denser than water:

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And this is the update of the four fruit bearing inflorescences:

N°1604#1: 11; N°1601#2: 5; N°1603#1: 3; N°1604#2: 26.

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Tyrone

You’re doing a remarkable job in keeping this species from going completely extinct and documenting it well. Keep up the good work. 

Ive just had some S hoehnei seed come up and I’m following your information to keep them going. 

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Pal Meir

Here the photos to that update:

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Pal Meir

Once more the first photo with the correct numbers: 2+3+2+4

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Pal Meir

Update! :interesting:

Drying before ripening?

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Now yellowing:

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Still 24 (!) fruits:

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Only 3 left:

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Still waiting for N°1604#3, N°1601#3, and N°1603#2. :unsure:

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Pal Meir

Dried fruit from N°1604#1 & yellowing fruit from N°1601#2: 

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Pal Meir

Good news: B)

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Bad news: :wacko:

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Pal Meir

Two fat ripe fruits: :drool: 

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»Fruit conical, 1.2–1.5 × 0.9–1.1 cm, red to reddish-orange when mature, glabrous, epicarp less than 0.5 mm thick, mesocarp 2–2.5, mm, succulent and fibrous, composed of two layers, an out red or orange fleshy part ca. 1.5 mm thick with an inner white fibrous layer 0.8–1 mm thick; endocarp 1.0–1.3 × 0.6–0.7 cm, very thin, less than 0.5 mm thick; seed ellipsoid, ca. 10–12 × 5–6 mm, endosperm homogeneous.« (Noblick 2017: A revision of the genus Syagrus (Arecaceae), p. 122)

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Pal Meir

Will these shrinking fruits have viable seeds? :unsure:

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Pal Meir

The seeds of the 3 shrunk fruits; cf.: »endocarp 1.0–1.3 × 0.6–0.7 cm« (Noblick 2017: A revision of the genus Syagrus (Arecaceae), p. 122)

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Are they viable? The size seems to be ok …

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Tyrone
7 minutes ago, Pal Meir said:

The seeds of the 3 shrunk fruits; cf.: »endocarp 1.0–1.3 × 0.6–0.7 cm« (Noblick 2017: A revision of the genus Syagrus (Arecaceae), p. 122)

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Are they viable? The size seems to be ok …

Do they sink in water? 

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Pal Meir
15 minutes ago, Tyrone said:

Do they sink in water? 

Yes, they do.

Update of the still unripe 24 (!) fruits from N°1604 #2:

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Pal Meir

The 3 fruits of N°1603 will be the next candidates:

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