Pseudophoenix sargentii at Lowe’s

[NickJames]

Ormond Beach Lowe’s has a few for $129 I think. They looked like 15g containers. I’ve never seen them here before. They looked great. 

[xoRudy]

Did you get any pics of them? Jealous, I’m tired of seeing washingtonias and queens here in Arizona at the local box stores.

[Johnny Palmseed]

That’s a good price for a 15 gallon. PS is one of those palms that is worth spending a bit more money for to get a bigger plant. It is quite slow and would take many years to get to the 15 gallon size. Even after planting it will be slow unless you get the Navasanna. (SP?) Mine is easily 15 years in the ground and is only about 3’ of trunk.

[PalmatierMeg]

Never seen them here. Worth buying.

[redant]

That's a bargain, so many years in the making.  To grow these for profit is a fools game lol.

[Reeverse]

That’s awesome! 

[aztropic]

7 hours ago, redant said:

That's a bargain, so many years in the making.  To grow these for profit is a fools game lol.

So true! It's just a labor of love. I actually DID grow a batch of these here in Arizona from seed to 3/5 gallon size. After 12/15 years of growing,repotting,watering,fertilizing,skipping summer travel,the plants sold in the $80 - $100 range. Looking back,it hardly seems worth it.

I started out growing them from seed for myself and my own gardens,but ended up buying more mature examples from Florida,after discovering how SLOW young Pseudophoenix actually grow.

 

aztropic

Mesa,Arizona

[aztropic]

[aztropic]

[floridaPalmMan]

20 hours ago, NickJames said:

Ormond Beach Lowe’s has a few for $129 I think. They looked like 15g containers. I’ve never seen them here before. They looked great. 

Nice. I'm driving down to New Smyrna Beach tomorrow to pick up some solar panels... looks like I'll have to stop at Lowes while I'm down there.

Edited June 7, 2021 by floridaPalmMan

[JohnAndSancho]

Is this the first @NickJames post about a cool palm without pics of a palm loaded in the back of his truck?

[DoomsDave]

22 hours ago, NickJames said:

Ormond Beach Lowe’s has a few for $129 I think. They looked like 15g containers. I’ve never seen them here before. They looked great. 

Scream obscenities and buy a couple 

@bubba showed me some nice ones in palm beach when I visited years ago

[redant]

15 hours ago, aztropic said:

So true! It's just a labor of love. I actually DID grow a batch of these here in Arizona from seed to 3/5 gallon size. After 12/15 years of growing,repotting,watering,fertilizing,skipping summer travel,the plants sold in the $80 - $100 range. Looking back,it hardly seems worth it.

I started out growing them from seed for myself and my own gardens,but ended up buying more mature examples from Florida,after discovering how SLOW young Pseudophoenix actually grow.

 

aztropic

Mesa,Arizona

I got a bunch of free seeds many years ago and have several n ow in the ground from them. Painfully slow to get them to the in the ground point.

[Johnny Palmseed]

16 hours ago, JohnAndSancho said:

Is this the first @NickJames post about a cool palm without pics of a palm loaded in the back of his truck?

Yes. And his membership shall be reviewed summarily. Completely unacceptable!

[Johnny Palmseed]

Like @redant said, painfully slow. The single Pseudo was germinated about a year ago and has looked the same for 6 months. The Carpoxylons were ungerminated seeds 2 months ago.

[NickJames]

Sorry folks I’ve been so slammed ha ha!! I will try to get photos today. 
 

I may be going to my pine island lot this weekend so who knows - may pick one up for there  

 

[floridaPalmMan]

10 minutes ago, NickJames said:

Sorry folks I’ve been so slammed ha ha!! I will try to get photos today. 

I took a few pics when I was there yesterday.

There's still one or two left, but they're in 27.5 gallons and $219.00 They wouldn't fit in my van with the solar panels.

 

 

 

[floridaPalmMan]

@NickJames Also, what's with all the dead/dying bismarkia's & phoenix palms on I95 heading south near the Port Orange exit?

Is that what lethal yellowing looks like?

[sonoranfans]

 @NickJames, as I recall you have soggy soil in some places, these want good drainage and plenty of sand in the soil.

[Reeverse]

7 hours ago, floridaPalmMan said:

@NickJames Also, what's with all the dead/dying bismarkia's & phoenix palms on I95 heading south near the Port Orange exit?

Is that what lethal yellowing looks like?

Those palms were installed the beginning of May. They don’t have irrigation and we have had little to no rain for last 5 weeks. That’s what’s going on with them. 

[DoomsDave]

1 hour ago, Reeverse said:

Those palms were installed the beginning of May. They don’t have irrigation and we have had little to no rain for last 5 weeks. That’s what’s going on with them. 

[sonoranfans]

16 hours ago, Reeverse said:

Those palms were installed the beginning of May. They don’t have irrigation and we have had little to no rain for last 5 weeks. That’s what’s going on with them. 

yep until 10 days ago I was hand watering like a fool and getting almost nowhere as the dry winds were dessicating almost as fast as I could add water.  A few palms seemed to not be stressed, at least visibly:  Mature beccariophoenix alfredii, bismarckia(in the ground 10+ yrs), borassus Ae, were barely effected.  All my other palms showed drought stress from the dry spring conditions, dropping more leaves(2x?) than usual.  I won't plant out in spring anymore, I wait for the rains and they have now relieved the stress after (3) "standing water downpours" in the last week and a half.  The humidity is now consistent with the wet season here, the palms love it.  Planting out a big trunking bizzie (with small rootball) before the wet season comes in an irrigated spot is a big risk here.  But now things are soaking up the rains.  Sandy soil causes additional stress in the dry season here, its hard to understand it till it hits your palms.

[aztropic]

Just starting our annual stress of each year...

 

aztropic

Mesa,Arizona

 

 

 

[sonoranfans]

yeah I remember the super dry 110F plus days.  Very different problem, I never had a problem keeping roots moist in clay soil with granite rock topping, but the transpiration through leaves was massive at low RH (6-15%).   Only arizona gardeners will understand the severity of the pre monsoon season there.  And then the humidity comes and goes some even in monsoon season.  

[Fusca]

On 6/6/2021 at 4:34 PM, aztropic said:

So true! It's just a labor of love. I actually DID grow a batch of these here in Arizona from seed to 3/5 gallon size. After 12/15 years of growing,repotting,watering,fertilizing,skipping summer travel,the plants sold in the $80 - $100 range. Looking back,it hardly seems worth it.

I started out growing them from seed for myself and my own gardens,but ended up buying more mature examples from Florida,after discovering how SLOW young Pseudophoenix actually grow.

 

aztropic

Mesa,Arizona

So these aren't rockets?  LOL!  Maybe my benefactors can see it trunk...

[aztropic]

Only 15 more years and your investment will really pay off... trust me... 

 

aztropic

Mesa,Arizona

[Fusca]

10 minutes ago, aztropic said:

Only 15 more years and your investment will really pay off... trust me... 

 

aztropic

Mesa,Arizona

Oh good, I'll need to supplement social security!  

[NickJames]

On 6/8/2021 at 10:27 AM, floridaPalmMan said:

I took a few pics when I was there yesterday.

There's still one or two left, but they're in 27.5 gallons and $219.00 They wouldn't fit in my van with the solar panels.

 

 

 

Oops. I see you beat my to it!

Also I was off on price and size! LOL!

[NickJames]

On 6/8/2021 at 5:39 PM, Reeverse said:

Those palms were installed the beginning of May. They don’t have irrigation and we have had little to no rain for last 5 weeks. That’s what’s going on with them. 

They should be getting visits from a water truck. Have you seen it? If not, I can check with maintenance or the project manager. 

The landscaping vendor will be required to replace them at their cost if they die. 

[Reeverse]

47 minutes ago, NickJames said:

They should be getting visits from a water truck. Have you seen it? If not, I can check with maintenance or the project manager. 

The landscaping vendor will be required to replace them at their cost if they die. 

I have seen a water truck parked but I don’t think it can keep up with the demand. I know how the DOT works, just surprised they let it go. It’s a company out of Gainesville. I think all but 2 of the 12 Bismarck’s are toast. Even the regenerated Sabals are starting to die. If you can help it would be awesome! 

[NickJames]

4 hours ago, Reeverse said:

I have seen a water truck parked but I don’t think it can keep up with the demand. I know how the DOT works, just surprised they let it go. It’s a company out of Gainesville. I think all but 2 of the 12 Bismarck’s are toast. Even the regenerated Sabals are starting to die. If you can help it would be awesome! 

The vendor provides the water truck. FDOT basically doesn’t have to do anything for 2 years. The vendor warranties the materials so quite frankly its in their best interest to keep it alive. With all the Bismarckia needing replaced, their profit is dwindling. 

Some landscaping projects will drill a well for irrigation. We just planted some Phoenix species in Mt. Dora on one of my projects and a well was drilled for automated irrigation there. 

[D. Morrowii]

I went to the Lowes in Rockledge Fl this past weekend to get some banana plants and apparently at least one of those 27.5 gallon Bucs was sent here. I didn't buy it and was kind of regretting it so my wife surprised me today and picked it up.

[Frond-friend42]

Go wife!