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Ptychosperma lovers


Walter John

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Yes indeed, I love this genus. Today I bought a Ptychosperma schefferi. A nice addition to these I have already:

P.macarthurii

P.elegans

P.salomonense

P.microcarpum

P.robustum

P.lineare

P.ambiguum

P.propinquum

Very easy to grow palms, mix in well for that jungle look, hardy, cool leaflets, what more can I say ?

So what Ptychospermas do others have ?

Happy Gardening

Cheers,

Wal

Queensland, Australia.

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Some of the nicest looking ones seem not to have a name yet:

P. "Wotoboho"

P. "Bobuba"

I had a favorite Ptychosperma but it went Drymophloeus on me....(hentyi)

Christian Faulkner

Venice, Florida - South Sarasota County.

www.faulknerspalms.com

 

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I'm growing the following.

P.elegans

P.furcatum

P.salomonense

P.pullenii

P caryotoides

P.sp. Wotoboho

P. lauterbachii

P. propinquum

P. ambiguum

P. macarthurii

P. burretianum

P. ledermannianum

P. lineare

P. microcarpum

P. sanderanum

P. waitianum

P. vestitum

P. cuneatum

P. schefferi

As you can see, I love this group. Very tropical.

Searle Brothers Nursery Inc.

and The Rainforest Collection.

Southwest Ranches,Fl.

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>>> ... went Drymophloeus on me <<<

That's wonderful, CF!   First time I've laughed in the last two days ....

--the old sourpuss

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Oh I forgot, I do have a small P. burretianum.

Happy Gardening

Cheers,

Wal

Queensland, Australia.

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Wal, I too love this genus, and not fully discovered over our way I reckon.

I have P ambiguum, P burretianum, P bleeseri, P caryotoides, P elegans, P microcarpum, P propinquum, P waiteanum, and P macarthurii.

regards

Tyrone

Millbrook, "Kinjarling" Noongar word meaning "Place of Rain", Rainbow Coast, Western Australia 35S. Warm temperate. Csb Koeppen Climate classification. Cool nights all year round.

 

 

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Bob, I'll be here all week.  :P

I am growing:

elegans

macarthurii

schafferi

"PNG Solitary"

vestitum

solomonense

"Narrow leaf"

cuneatum

caryotoides

burretianum

waitianum

"nicolai" - supposedly a variation of burretianum

microcarpum

"kakambona"

Christian Faulkner

Venice, Florida - South Sarasota County.

www.faulknerspalms.com

 

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I don't have any yet, but hope to get a macarthurii some time, having read on PACSOA's site that they stay very small when grown in shade.

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Corey Lucas-Divers

Dorset, UK

Ave Jul High 72F/22C (91F/33C Max)

Ave Jul Low 52F/11C (45F/7C Min)

Ave Jan High 46F/8C (59F/15C Max)

Ave Jan Low 34F/1C (21F/-6C Min)

Ave Rain 736mm pa

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P. burretianum

P. schefferi

P. lineare

P. microcarpum

P. macarthurii

P. elegans

P. sp. (solitary PNG)

P. sp. (clumping)

Tampa, Interbay Peninsula, Florida, USA

subtropical USDA Zone 10A

Bokeelia, Pine Island, Florida, USA

subtropical USDA Zone 10B

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Im not a huge Ptychosperma fan (as they are similar enough in appearance to some other palms which grow far faster), but I have a few of the common ones in the ground of decent size (a couple of elegans and 4 macarthurii), along with a small unnamed one that Ray gave me a few weeks ago.

My largest elegans is now seeding, so perhaps there will be some viable seeds later this year.

Larry 

Palm Harbor, FL 10a / Ft Myers, FL 10b

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I like Ptychosperma sps...but my winters are too cold for most...I do have P. elegans that doing fine...

Are they any other species that are at least as hardy as elegans??

Phoenix Area, Arizona USA

Low Desert...... Zone 9b

Jan ave 66 high and 40 low

July ave 105 high and 80 low

About 4 to 8 frost a year...ave yearly min temp about 27F

About 8 inches of rain a year.

Low Desert

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Cool Mtn climate at 7,000'

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I'm growing:

P. elegans (double in ground w/ a foot or so of trunk).  It's adjusting to life in full sun.

P. macarthurii

P. caryotoides

p. solomonense

The last three I recently got from Christian.  They are just babies.

Matt Bradford

"Manambe Lavaka"

Spring Valley, CA (8.5 miles inland from San Diego Bay)

10B on the hill (635 ft. elevation)

9B in the canyon (520 ft. elevation)

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Here is a photo of mine I was told it was the clumping form of P. schefferi. It is in my screened pool enclosure and that it the only protection it gets.

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With a tin cup for a chalice

Fill it up with good red wine,

And I'm-a chewin' on a honeysuckle vine.

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P. schefferi it is and a beauty.

There is only a clumping form of this palm though.

Happy Gardening

Cheers,

Wal

Queensland, Australia.

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pacsoa.org states that it can be single stem or clumping. Is this still so or has this changed?

With a tin cup for a chalice

Fill it up with good red wine,

And I'm-a chewin' on a honeysuckle vine.

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(tikitiki @ Aug. 08 2006,07:06)

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pacsoa.org states that it can be single stem or clumping. Is this still so or has this changed?

Sorry, I did not know that, thanks for the heads up. I would love to see/have a single version.

Happy Gardening

Cheers,

Wal

Queensland, Australia.

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Maybe the Bishocks can post a photo of Ptychsoperma "Paddleleaf" for all to see.  An amazing looking plant for sure.

Ray

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Tampa, Interbay Peninsula, Florida, USA

subtropical USDA Zone 10A

Bokeelia, Pine Island, Florida, USA

subtropical USDA Zone 10B

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Aw, gee, I hate to be left out of the fun.

I've gut a bunch of P. elegans, including a Home Despot Special, about a million plants in a pot, in the ground now, getting ready to take over the world.

And, caryotifolia.

Love the genus.  Wish I could grow more of it, and kill fewer.

dave

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My future macarthurii should be on it's way soon, hopefully I'll have it some time next week, so I'll post a pic when I get it, although it's likely to be somewhat diminutive in comparison to everyone else's.  I'm looking forward to my introduction to the genus.

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Corey Lucas-Divers

Dorset, UK

Ave Jul High 72F/22C (91F/33C Max)

Ave Jul Low 52F/11C (45F/7C Min)

Ave Jan High 46F/8C (59F/15C Max)

Ave Jan Low 34F/1C (21F/-6C Min)

Ave Rain 736mm pa

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(Ray, Tampa @ Aug. 07 2006,21:42)

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Maybe the Bishocks can post a photo of Ptychsoperma "Paddleleaf" for all to see.  An amazing looking plant for sure.

Ray

I've saved this picture from the old Forum. Lovely leaning trunk Ptychos indeed...I wish they can get seeds from it soon.

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Sirinhaém beach, 80 Km south of Recife - Brazil

Tropical oceanic climate, latitude 8° S

Temperature extremes: 25 to 31°C

2000 mm average rainfall, dry summers

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What the ???

Happy Gardening

Cheers,

Wal

Queensland, Australia.

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I've managed to germinate Ptychosperma seeds of all the species available lately at the international dealers websites,

and also collected seedlings and small plants found in nurseries locally. These are easy growing palms for my climate,

but not so visually appealing plants IMO, except the solitary tall species like salomonensis,

when correctly employed in landscape,

resulting in a dramatic effect. I liked this small clump of P. burretianum though, belonging to a friend. The leaves arrangement is quite unique:

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Sirinhaém beach, 80 Km south of Recife - Brazil

Tropical oceanic climate, latitude 8° S

Temperature extremes: 25 to 31°C

2000 mm average rainfall, dry summers

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just picked up a p.pullenii at phil's last sale.

the "prince of snarkness."

 

still "warning-free."

 

san diego,california,left coast.

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Paul, I just looked up the P. pullenii on PACSOA.....really nice looking palm.  Are we able to grow this?  Anyone with experience here in So Cal?

Matt Bradford

"Manambe Lavaka"

Spring Valley, CA (8.5 miles inland from San Diego Bay)

10B on the hill (635 ft. elevation)

9B in the canyon (520 ft. elevation)

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(Gileno Machado @ Aug. 08 2006,23:52)

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I've managed to germinate Ptychosperma seeds of all the species available lately at the international dealers websites, and also collected seedlings and small plants found in nurseries locally. These are easy growing palms for my climate, but not so visually appealing plants IMO, except the solitary tall species like salomonensis, when correctly employed in landscape, resulting in a dramatic effect. I liked this small clump of P. burretianum though, belonging to a friend. The leaves arrangement is quite unique:

They are a real combo palm I think. Plant them with other species and you get a neat mini jungle effect.

That planting of Carpenatarias and Macarthurs at Daryl's place is fabulous. I think there is a pic in the archives. You got a photo Daryl ?

Happy Gardening

Cheers,

Wal

Queensland, Australia.

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I got a cute little sanderianum seedling last October.  It's actually alive! and growing steadily.  It actually survived!   Needless to say, I'm very happy with it.

I had my eye on a bodacious elegans at Dolins (St. Pete), but the price is kind of steep.  

Who knows, maybe I'll find one at the next S. FL palm sale - always love a good excuse to buy palms from my favorite events down there :D

St. Pete

Zone - a wacked-out place between 9b & 10

Elevation = 44' - not that it does any good

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Ptychosperma elegans is a very common palm here, and often used in landscaping. Here are three of ours.

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Leilani Estates, 25 mls/40 km south of Hilo, Big Island of Hawai'i. Elevation 880 ft/270 m. Average rainfall 140 inches/3550 mm

 

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(MattyB @ Aug. 08 2006,14:19)

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Paul, I just looked up the P. pullenii on PACSOA.....really nice looking palm.  Are we able to grow this?  Anyone with experience here in So Cal?

matt-- i'm certainly going to try!

the "prince of snarkness."

 

still "warning-free."

 

san diego,california,left coast.

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Well, this USED to be a Ptychosperma: P. ledermannianum. Now it's Ponapea ledermanniana.

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Leilani Estates, 25 mls/40 km south of Hilo, Big Island of Hawai'i. Elevation 880 ft/270 m. Average rainfall 140 inches/3550 mm

 

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And Ptychosperma bleeseri. This palm is about 18 ft tall, so what you see is just the bottom 5 ft or so!

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Leilani Estates, 25 mls/40 km south of Hilo, Big Island of Hawai'i. Elevation 880 ft/270 m. Average rainfall 140 inches/3550 mm

 

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And finally, a little bit of a mystery. I lost the tag for this one, but I think it's a Ptychosperma. Any ideas? Two photos.

First a full view (and not that great, I'm afraid).

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Leilani Estates, 25 mls/40 km south of Hilo, Big Island of Hawai'i. Elevation 880 ft/270 m. Average rainfall 140 inches/3550 mm

 

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And a close-up of a new frond that just opened up a few days ago.

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Leilani Estates, 25 mls/40 km south of Hilo, Big Island of Hawai'i. Elevation 880 ft/270 m. Average rainfall 140 inches/3550 mm

 

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Bo, I'm not sure if that is a Ptychosperma, do the leaflets have blunt, jagged ends?  It looks like they come to a point.

Tim Brisbane

Patterson Lakes, bayside Melbourne, Australia

Rarely Frost

2005 Minimum: 2.6C,  Maximum: 44C

2005 Average: 17.2C, warmest on record.

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Tim,

you're correct, they don't have blunt, jagged edges so I had doubts myself....I'm open for suggestions!

Bo-Göran

Leilani Estates, 25 mls/40 km south of Hilo, Big Island of Hawai'i. Elevation 880 ft/270 m. Average rainfall 140 inches/3550 mm

 

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These grow like crazy.... My p. elegans that I planted has already put out 4 new fronds since May..... It's growing like crazy.

Bobby

Long Island, New York  Zone 7a (where most of the southern Floridians are originally from)

AVERAGE TEMPS

Summer Highs  : 85-90f/day,  68-75f / night

Winter Lows     : 38-45f/day,   25-35f / night

Extreme Low    : 10-20f/day,    0-10f / night   but VERY RARE

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Bo,

Your last two photographs strongly remind me of a very similar palm at Ho`omaluhia, tucked out of the way and off the well-worn pathways.  It has small, thin thrunks and a red opening leaf.  It was impossible to get a good photo due to its secluded and crowded location.  

But I retrieved ripe fruit, processed the seed, and planted out a handfull.  I found that the seed had the folded characteristic of all Ptychospermas.  That's as far as I have gone with the ID.  The leaflets did not bear the usual chopped off look.   If you nail down the species, please advise.  Thanks.

Norm

Kailua,  Hawaii

Windward side of Oahu

Famous kite surfing beach

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Norm,

Very interesting! And if I find out anything, I'll certainly let you know.

Bo-Göran

Leilani Estates, 25 mls/40 km south of Hilo, Big Island of Hawai'i. Elevation 880 ft/270 m. Average rainfall 140 inches/3550 mm

 

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Bo, Any chance that's Dransfieldia?

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Kona, on The Big Island
Hawaii - Land of Volcanoes

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Dean,

Wow, you're good (I think!! :) ). Actually, that's a strong possibility. I was trying to educate myself on exactly what happened with this species, so I checked the Kew site, which shows Heterospathe micrantha as the current name, and Ptychosperma micranthum as the old name. Is this the one that is now the new genus Dransfielda? And is that the correct spelling? The Kew site shows NOTHING under that name, nor for Dransfieldia or Dransfieldii.

It so happens that I planted two Heterospathe micrantha in this area. But I have "lost track of them" in the sense that I don't know exactly where I planted them. Have to see if I can find the second one. Both came from Floribunda.

Bo-Göran

Leilani Estates, 25 mls/40 km south of Hilo, Big Island of Hawai'i. Elevation 880 ft/270 m. Average rainfall 140 inches/3550 mm

 

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