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Seeding Phoenix ID - Any Interest in Seeds?

PalmatierMeg

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Today we stopped at our local deli for lunch. As we were leaving I noticed two large Phoenix palms on each side of the driveway. One was loaded with seeds while the other, a male, was not. The fruits were still green and were 1" long x 1/2" wide. The seeds are 3/4" x 3/8". The Phoenix genus is not my favorite but these two palms were spectacular beneath the sunlit sky. They have been cared for and pruned judiciously and were perfect. I saw no other Phoenix palms nearby. My question is: Can anyone tell me what hybrids these two palms could be (almost all Phoenix in FL are hybrids)? Is anyone interested in seeds when they ripen? If the offspring take after the parents they should turn out to be awesome palms. I hope everyone agrees. I took the following photos:

Phoenix species/hybrid

Fruit and seeds

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Male palm

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Seeding Female palm

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Palms of Victory I shall wear

Cape Coral (It's Just Paradise)
Florida
Zone 10A on the Isabelle Canal
Elevation: 15 feet

I'd like to be under the sea in an octopus' garden in the shade.

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That kinda looks like a Phoenix sylvestris.  The male palm looks more like a hybrid than the female.  The female looks like a pure sylvestris but that's coming from an untrained eye.  The male tree might have some canariensis.  I love the way they look.  I wouldn't mind a few seeds if you ever put them up for sale.

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On 5/10/2021 at 2:11 PM, PalmatierMeg said:

Today we stopped at our local deli for lunch. As we were leaving I noticed two large Phoenix palms on each side of the driveway. One was loaded with seeds while the other, a male, was not. The fruits were still green and were 1" long x 1/2" wide. The seeds are 3/4" x 3/8". The Phoenix genus is not my favorite but these two palms were spectacular beneath the sunlit sky. They have been cared for and pruned judiciously and were perfect. I saw no other Phoenix palms nearby. My question is: Can anyone tell me what hybrids these two palms could be (almost all Phoenix in FL are hybrids)? Is anyone interested in seeds when they ripen? If the offspring take after the parents they should turn out to be awesome palms. I hope everyone agrees. I took the following photos:

Phoenix species/hybrid

Fruit and seeds

1801520192_Phoenixspfruitnseeds05-10-21.thumb.JPG.a23da448a6cb9be536c7d0ceace274b5.JPG

Male palm

1298045228_Phoenixspmale0105-10-21.thumb.JPG.2cc9292b228b7dbb6c93150f692b58e0.JPG

Seeding Female palm

1118655916_Phoenixspseeding0105-10-21.thumb.JPG.2789ba960da08051f0c5500eb39e1956.JPG243047682_Phoenixspseeding0305-10-21.thumb.JPG.62c3c5907e30f87e2da354db3f81f55c.JPG520833674_Phoenixspseeding0205-10-21.thumb.JPG.46870aff04557749d81c62f3062ef075.JPG1183100533_Phoenixspseeding0505-10-21.thumb.JPG.6970550840bd033d8ff6bef1951836a8.JPG1658059198_Phoenixspseeding0405-10-21.thumb.JPG.d6b3084836d2fb4682226693f2d0f261.JPG1978785849_Phoenixspseeding0605-10-21.thumb.JPG.41057512ed756807ad07bb20c116d1ea.JPG

 

Did you ever end up getting some seeds?  I'm still interested if you have any.

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No. Got no other responses so I said, "Forget it." It was broiling hot that day.

Meg

Palms of Victory I shall wear

Cape Coral (It's Just Paradise)
Florida
Zone 10A on the Isabelle Canal
Elevation: 15 feet

I'd like to be under the sea in an octopus' garden in the shade.

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At first glance, the female palm appears to have strong Sylvester traits. The frond spacing/leaflet texture shows more True Date. My guess is Dactylifera x Sylvestris. The male palm looks closer to full Sylvester. I’m really particular about the genus as well, but this specimen is striking!

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Milwaukee, WI to Ocala, FL

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@Reyes Vargas next time we eat at the deli I'll check under the female to see if any seedlings have come up and dig up a few to send to you if you will cover postage.

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Palms of Victory I shall wear

Cape Coral (It's Just Paradise)
Florida
Zone 10A on the Isabelle Canal
Elevation: 15 feet

I'd like to be under the sea in an octopus' garden in the shade.

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