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Sabal Brazoria


ColumbusPalm

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1 hour ago, ColumbusPalm said:

Has anyone grown this in a Z6a or b for more than a few years? 

I'd be shocked if you got anything positive for being in 6a... They are meant to handle cold, but need some heat to recover should they go through a rough winter.  You'd be pushing the limits here IMHO.

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At *5F mature ones start to get tip burn. They are less hardy than regular minors by 5-10 degrees. I would rate them a Southern warm zone 7a. Like Tennessee southward. 
I believe all Sabals really need soil temperatures above 70 and daytime temperatures in the 80s and well above to really grow fast.

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Current Texas Gardening Zone 9a, Mean (1999-2024): 22F Low/104F High. Yearly Precipitation 39.17 inches.

Extremes: Low Min 4F 2021, 13.8F 2024. High Max 112F 2011/2023, Precipitation Max 58 inches 2015, Lowest 19 Inches 2011.

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They just seem like they’d be a better bet than Trachys in a zone 6. I know people go through great lengths to pull them through a winter but Brazoria appears to have better foliage hardiness. Ohio summers from June-September are usually 80s+. August gets really hot here. I may be moving closer to the lake next year which is a 6b so was curious if anything beyond minors or needles would be worth trying. 

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Sabal Brazoria did perform better than a Trachycarpus Fortunei that was next to it this Winter. 
 

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Current Texas Gardening Zone 9a, Mean (1999-2024): 22F Low/104F High. Yearly Precipitation 39.17 inches.

Extremes: Low Min 4F 2021, 13.8F 2024. High Max 112F 2011/2023, Precipitation Max 58 inches 2015, Lowest 19 Inches 2011.

Weather Station: https://www.wunderground.com/dashboard/pws/KTXCOLLE465

Ryan (Paleoclimatologist Since 4 billion Years ago, Meteorologist/Earth Scientist/Physicist Since 1995, Savy Horticulturist Since Birth.)

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6 hours ago, ColumbusPalm said:

They just seem like they’d be a better bet than Trachys in a zone 6. I know people go through great lengths to pull them through a winter but Brazoria appears to have better foliage hardiness. Ohio summers from June-September are usually 80s+. August gets really hot here. I may be moving closer to the lake next year which is a 6b so was curious if anything beyond minors or needles would be worth trying. 

Try Yucca Rostrata, And Sabal Louisiana. Possibly Sabal Birmingham ( but real slow) There are small leaf minor and large leaf minor eco types. 
Trachycarpus will have a longer growing season there. Probably grow fast now through mid fall So try them, just protect them.

If you can find a reliable Sabal Brazoria try it. 

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Current Texas Gardening Zone 9a, Mean (1999-2024): 22F Low/104F High. Yearly Precipitation 39.17 inches.

Extremes: Low Min 4F 2021, 13.8F 2024. High Max 112F 2011/2023, Precipitation Max 58 inches 2015, Lowest 19 Inches 2011.

Weather Station: https://www.wunderground.com/dashboard/pws/KTXCOLLE465

Ryan (Paleoclimatologist Since 4 billion Years ago, Meteorologist/Earth Scientist/Physicist Since 1995, Savy Horticulturist Since Birth.)

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6 hours ago, ColumbusPalm said:

They just seem like they’d be a better bet than Trachys in a zone 6. I know people go through great lengths to pull them through a winter but Brazoria appears to have better foliage hardiness. Ohio summers from June-September are usually 80s+. August gets really hot here. I may be moving closer to the lake next year which is a 6b so was curious if anything beyond minors or needles would be worth trying. 

The rub is that Trachy outgrow them by leaps and bounds.   So plant both.  LOL

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7 hours ago, ColumbusPalm said:

I may be moving closer to the lake next year which is a 6b so was curious if anything beyond minors or needles would be worth trying. 

S. "Tamaulipas" was unblemished at -5F along with the Needles.  Most of my minors showed some damage.

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Longview, Texas :: Record Low: -5F, Feb. 16, 2021 :: Borderline 8A/8B :: '06-'07: 18F / '07-'08: 21F / '08-'09: 21F / '09-'10: 14F / '10-'11: 15F / '11-'12: 24F / '12-'13: 23F / '13-'14: 15F / '14-'15: 20F / '15-'16: 27F / '16-'17: 15F / '17-'18: 8F / '18-'19: 23F / '19-'20: 19F / '20-'21: -5F / '21-'22: 20F / '22-'23: 6F

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6 minutes ago, buffy said:

S. "Tamaulipas" was unblemished at -5F along with the Needles.  Most of my minors showed some damage.

Buffy! Will you have Tamaulipas seed your willing to share! 

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Current Texas Gardening Zone 9a, Mean (1999-2024): 22F Low/104F High. Yearly Precipitation 39.17 inches.

Extremes: Low Min 4F 2021, 13.8F 2024. High Max 112F 2011/2023, Precipitation Max 58 inches 2015, Lowest 19 Inches 2011.

Weather Station: https://www.wunderground.com/dashboard/pws/KTXCOLLE465

Ryan (Paleoclimatologist Since 4 billion Years ago, Meteorologist/Earth Scientist/Physicist Since 1995, Savy Horticulturist Since Birth.)

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