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Areca catechu Dwarf seeds


SoulofthePlace

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Is this normal that Areca catechu Dwarf seeds (hairy husk on) all have a soft top and a hard bottom? I have purchased 10 fresh seeds. Should I remove the husk before germinating?

Average day temperatures: +17°C in the winter and +24°C in the summer. Typical Summer: 68F to 77F (20C to 25C). Typical Winter: 55F to 64F (12C to 18C). Record Low (past 5 years): 45F or +7.7C (once a winter, some winters). Record High (past 5 years): 83F or +28C (some days only). Elevation 140 m (459 ft.) to 160 m (525 ft.), latitude 38.54º. Sunset Zone: unknown

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Realized they are dried up seeds, so I better remove the scalps which look like Boris Johnson lost his own:

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Average day temperatures: +17°C in the winter and +24°C in the summer. Typical Summer: 68F to 77F (20C to 25C). Typical Winter: 55F to 64F (12C to 18C). Record Low (past 5 years): 45F or +7.7C (once a winter, some winters). Record High (past 5 years): 83F or +28C (some days only). Elevation 140 m (459 ft.) to 160 m (525 ft.), latitude 38.54º. Sunset Zone: unknown

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P.S.: On the following blog: Areca catechu (betel nut palm) (wordpress.com) they are discussing SEED STORAGE, which they say: 

"Like many tropical species Betel Nut Palm seed can not be stored for more than a few days without losing viability. Planting within 7 days after harvest is the norm."

I ordered those seeds from a newly arrived batch as a subscriber for the notification for those particular seeds and received them here 36 days after I paid for them by Priority Mail.  The seeds are now soaking in water and will stay there for 3 days. Boris Johnson chevelures were removed completely from all the seeds although one person in the customer comments section at RPS noted they germinated the seeds with their husks on (Jose on 1-1-2000).

The following website encourages removal of the seed husks:

"Your fresh betel seeds will be in a fibrous husk similar to a dried coconut.  The first step is to peel this away to remove the nut. This can take a bit of effort, especially if you are planting a bunch of betel nuts. If you’ve ever pulled a coconut out of its husk, it is not quite that difficult due to the size. But the fibers are very similar. The process itself is self-explanatory. You start at the top and pry away the husk down both sides."

“How to Grow Areca Catechu from Seeds” is locked How to Grow Areca Catechu from Seeds | World Seed Supply

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Average day temperatures: +17°C in the winter and +24°C in the summer. Typical Summer: 68F to 77F (20C to 25C). Typical Winter: 55F to 64F (12C to 18C). Record Low (past 5 years): 45F or +7.7C (once a winter, some winters). Record High (past 5 years): 83F or +28C (some days only). Elevation 140 m (459 ft.) to 160 m (525 ft.), latitude 38.54º. Sunset Zone: unknown

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  • 2 months later...

Almost 3 months after I started germinating the 10 seeds that I received from RPS there is no sign of germination yet. Each seed cost me about $6 so I hope to see some germination soon.

6 hours ago, 4sergio89 said:

Did you manage to germinate it? I think I received some rotten seeds

Almost 3 months after I started germinating the 10 seeds that I received from RPS there is no sign of germination yet. Each seed cost me about $6 so I hope to see some germination soon.

Average day temperatures: +17°C in the winter and +24°C in the summer. Typical Summer: 68F to 77F (20C to 25C). Typical Winter: 55F to 64F (12C to 18C). Record Low (past 5 years): 45F or +7.7C (once a winter, some winters). Record High (past 5 years): 83F or +28C (some days only). Elevation 140 m (459 ft.) to 160 m (525 ft.), latitude 38.54º. Sunset Zone: unknown

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Don’t give up! Fresh Areca seed usually starts germinating in 30 days or so, but if your seeds are still firm and fungus free, I’d be patient. 

The percentage of seed showing true dwarf characteristics are low. You usually get a range from the standard type to everything in between and maybe a couple of true dwarfs. That’s in say, a batch of 20 seeds. Be hopeful, the stars might just align for you. 

Tim

Tim

Hilo, Hawaii

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  • 7 months later...

A year later, NO germination at all. The seeds were marked by RPS as new and fresh at the time of purchase. I've emailed the RarePalmSeeds and requested a credit towards a purchase of other seeds for these and a couple other seeds that never germinated with the best practice.

Average day temperatures: +17°C in the winter and +24°C in the summer. Typical Summer: 68F to 77F (20C to 25C). Typical Winter: 55F to 64F (12C to 18C). Record Low (past 5 years): 45F or +7.7C (once a winter, some winters). Record High (past 5 years): 83F or +28C (some days only). Elevation 140 m (459 ft.) to 160 m (525 ft.), latitude 38.54º. Sunset Zone: unknown

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Too bad, Ordering seed can sometimes be a crap shoot, especially with all the red tape involved.

On another note, seed with copious fiber can be a pain to clean, so I just plant the whole thing straight away. If the seed is fresh and viable, you should get good germination.

Tim 

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Tim

Hilo, Hawaii

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