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Here’s all of them when I got them unloaded3650C593-C686-4023-B6B0-57037810EF95.thumb.jpeg.b78b7fd8a193545b4512cce8683b6dca.jpegThis is a 7 gallon sabal minor, begging to get planted9EF46777-81D2-4ED7-8865-1860958B78DD.thumb.jpeg.a3c396ca735e3f518a9d0fa65e7bfe7d.jpeg7328082C-E4A6-4BF7-B406-7186CEEB20C8.thumb.jpeg.c52ebfad8a0093933ef0990a33a3118b.jpegHere’s 2 sabal Louisiana 3 gallon B3DB598B-A398-45CC-A2E8-1CF25EF9DB44.thumb.jpeg.2b798cec1c602d85ff211b2ca6f1ceb7.jpeg29EF0416-3E48-4D5D-A043-0F135A97D8DC.thumb.jpeg.6d0c5a74391a6c6f4a7a7e1cadc410b2.jpegThat’s a palmetto on the right, sabal Louisiana center, and sabal minor 3 gallon left.BF01927D-BD91-4B00-98BB-9319F9FC8D42.thumb.jpeg.ee737de58f532963f09b513aacee9d93.jpegI’ve got 5 more sabal minors to plant, didn’t have all my spots ready for them and they needed to get up potted. Put them in deep 7 gallon pots, they are on the right. The smallest palm on the left is a sabal etonia, and the one to the right is a sabal mexicana. I didn’t really have a plan for those just couldn’t pass them up when I was at the nursery, they were in 1 gallon pots up potted them for now.

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@teddytn Very nice!  Keep up the good work!

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USDA Zone 1990: 9a  2012: 9b  2023: 10a | Sunset Zone: 26 | Record Low: 20F/-6.67C (Jan. 1985, Dec.1962) | Record Low USDA Zone: 9a

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On 4/27/2021 at 9:44 PM, teddytn said:

I didn’t really have a plan for those just couldn’t pass them up when I was at the nursery, they were in 1 gallon pots up potted them for now.

Damn I wish our nurseries sold more sabals !!! 

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2 hours ago, OC2Texaspalmlvr said:

Damn I wish our nurseries sold more sabals !!! 

T J 

That’s weird, when I think of nurseries south of here I picture rows of every species of palm tree in every size, cactus, agaves. Pretty much my idea of heaven lol

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Sunday funday!!! Somehow this chamaerops humilis jumped on my cart at the store.....I was literally just trying to get some mulch I swear! LolB3AB7FCA-8D84-4B30-80D1-75086DF16341.thumb.jpeg.b7f80115e7e3c565785904c4f5cc12ce.jpeg45592E8B-C62A-46D0-90B0-B6ADF36CD09B.thumb.jpeg.5d28322b3138120080d94ff6cf60071a.jpeg1C7F07AE-520B-4CC8-965C-A45E99424D77.thumb.jpeg.cc98570af4f4d233dc9caa364aab990b.jpeg1A7DD185-DD02-4CA4-BD78-A70B1AC1648D.thumb.jpeg.b559c40a0d1d3aa940b039a0481621f8.jpeg

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3 Takils from jungle music!!! Don’t quote me, but pretty sure the last palms of the season....big one is looking rough, gonna have to baby these for a while. People weren’t lying about the alpine trunking nature of Takil, all three identical growth habit. Oh jeez almost forgot 6 fortunei that showed up the other day6B2A95F5-14EF-45D6-9062-A2CABE0252ED.thumb.jpeg.2e81166e0fa2250eb17363bdb54f489a.jpegE786B20D-3006-44F1-BA16-C79838A2DCE6.thumb.jpeg.ddfd8e08b5544b07d87be653df3085bf.jpeg1E5C0CE6-9301-4A44-8419-01173A54A65C.thumb.jpeg.07672d0f2f75a149632491fd33ec9a0e.jpegDDE44DA7-6925-4E88-A57C-60D45E4ABC7C.thumb.jpeg.e8319dde8dcc26e46c101dd1b6008b55.jpeg5FC77A6C-1889-4D9A-9122-0105323DB9EE.thumb.jpeg.34082e7e628a043fe7e7c3daf2c5d110.jpeg

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2 sabal minor Emerald Isle giants from plant delights. Thanks to @PalmatierMeg! Really happy, definitely bigger plants than I thought were going to show up!!! Going to stay potted for winter and plant out next spring.9BD8904E-2E60-4B19-A1FC-A22ABCF8F139.thumb.jpeg.50509f77a2486fc30ee1469b52feb1dc.jpeg8D579704-45D3-4CBC-A761-8E2627D44127.thumb.jpeg.a3381b0af718794b894ad5218c6f89bd.jpeg

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great looking plants. You'll love them. In the shade or on a cloudy, rainy day they are a mesmerizing blue tint. You can see hints of that color in your photos. Here is mine on a late Jan. evening this year

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Zone 10A on the Isabelle Canal
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I'd like to be under the sea in an octopus' garden in the shade.

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1 hour ago, PalmatierMeg said:

great looking plants. You'll love them. In the shade or on a cloudy, rainy day they are a mesmerizing blue tint. You can see hints of that color in your photos. Here is mine on a late Jan. evening this year

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That is gorgeous! Pictures are hard to tell, are the leaves as big as they say?

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So far I haven't seen much the the "Giant" trait I was led to expect. It is about the same size as a couple of "regular" Sabal minors. Its coloration is its Wow Factor.

Meg

Palms of Victory I shall wear

Cape Coral (It's Just Paradise)
Florida
Zone 10A on the Isabelle Canal
Elevation: 15 feet

I'd like to be under the sea in an octopus' garden in the shade.

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On 4/29/2021 at 10:27 AM, teddytn said:

That’s weird, when I think of nurseries south of here I picture rows of every species of palm tree in every size, cactus, agaves. Pretty much my idea of heaven lol

Let me get this straight... you live in TN, and there are nurseries there that sell these? 

How is this... I live in the native range of most of those sabal species and yet... nothing here locally in a 70 mile radius. 

Am I missing something !?!?! :rant:

 

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Let me get this straight... you live in TN, and there are nurseries there that sell these? 

How is this... I live in the native range of most of those sabal species and yet... nothing here locally in a 70 mile radius. 

Am I missing something !?!?! :rant:

 

No no not at all lol! All the sabals at the beginning of this thread I drove to a nursery south of Atlanta to pick up. Snagged a few palms on my trips to Florida. Now and again odd ball stuff will show up locally like the med. I got from Home Depot. Which used to carry small blue pot trachys, and needle palms maybe 10 years ago. Pretty much everything else palm wise I’ve mail ordered. I may have worded that post poorly, when I said nurseries south of here I meant south of where I’m at, so close to where you live I would imagine they would be full of palms, whether it’s true or not is a different story. Definitely not rolling in palm diversity around here that’s for sure lol

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@teddytn They have trachys, some butia, chammies, (sago's - cycad), and the rare saw palmetto pop up from time to time at my local lowes or at a nursery on HWY 280. 

Another nursery I usually go to north of me during the start of the growing season and load up on my annuals for around the property and my parents, has decided to start selling more palms this year. 

This year they had HUGE (12-18ft Chinese fan palms with trunk that they were installing in peoples yards in 7b.... no comment), Washingtonias, and trachys. 

Then they also had some bizzies, foxtail, adonidia, and bottle palms for sale in the greenhouse. 

 

The cold hardy palms at the location I mentioned above are outrageously priced - several hundred dollars for a butia in a 5 gallon pot. It's really robbery plain and simple. 

 

I usually go to a nursery south of here in Troy to get palms - although the last year or two they've been dealing with a rather nasty case of scale! :(

If you can get them right off the truck - they usually carry nice looking 2 gallon trachys for about $20, Butia's anywhere from 2gallon - 30 gallon. The 2 gallon I got in spring of last year was like $25. Silver saw palmettos, potted palmettos (small), potted sabal minors, chammies, etc.... 

They have good prices, and they are the only store locally (sort of) that I've found with any kind of variety. 

I activity seek out garden centers year round to see who has what. 

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16 hours ago, Dartolution said:

@teddytn They have trachys, some butia, chammies, (sago's - cycad), and the rare saw palmetto pop up from time to time at my local lowes or at a nursery on HWY 280. 

Another nursery I usually go to north of me during the start of the growing season and load up on my annuals for around the property and my parents, has decided to start selling more palms this year. 

This year they had HUGE (12-18ft Chinese fan palms with trunk that they were installing in peoples yards in 7b.... no comment), Washingtonias, and trachys. 

Then they also had some bizzies, foxtail, adonidia, and bottle palms for sale in the greenhouse. 

 

The cold hardy palms at the location I mentioned above are outrageously priced - several hundred dollars for a butia in a 5 gallon pot. It's really robbery plain and simple. 

 

I usually go to a nursery south of here in Troy to get palms - although the last year or two they've been dealing with a rather nasty case of scale! :(

If you can get them right off the truck - they usually carry nice looking 2 gallon trachys for about $20, Butia's anywhere from 2gallon - 30 gallon. The 2 gallon I got in spring of last year was like $25. Silver saw palmettos, potted palmettos (small), potted sabal minors, chammies, etc.... 

They have good prices, and they are the only store locally (sort of) that I've found with any kind of variety. 

I activity seek out garden centers year round to see who has what. 

Same here. All the normal nurseries that do carry palms always stock palms that won’t survive. I’ve never seen a needle palm or sabal minor here for sale, but regularly see Bismarckia, Pygmy date palm, foxtails. Don’t get me wrong the whole deal here is to plant or keep palms as annuals (something I hate by the way). Too many people around Nashville with money to burn. I really wish I could find a place that sold Trachycarpus with in reasonable driving range. I’ve got a bunch of plant to plant quite a few trachies, but don’t want to pay crazy prices to mail order them.

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@Dartolution I’ve got one Potted Sabal palmetto that has scale pretty bad, have you found anything that will get rid of it? Mainly just been using isopropyl and manual removal

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That helps initially. Coffee grounds has been shown to kill scale, and I believe imidacloprid as well. 

I had white scale pretty bad on a rescue silver saw this spring I picked up at a nursery. 

I've used imidacloprid granules and used coffee grounds and so far so good. 

Scale isn't something I've had to deal with previously however. Maybe someone here that has more pest pressure from scale can chime in. 

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Just left Gary’s nursery in New Bern, NC. I just spent 4 hours talking to Gary about his 40 years of experience growing cold hardy palms and realized I didn’t take any pics….here’s a new palm pic at least. 3F14EE94-F13A-4DE4-B1F4-D0421736C045.thumb.jpeg.abaf01363b09c2422dd691c8cb0169fe.jpegSabal Brazoria, Sabal minor, Sabal palmetto fat boy, Sabal Birmingham all grown from seed from Gary’s palms that he just showed me. Sorry I’m fan boying a little bit here lol

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Imadicloprid is a good systemic for scale, and will cure infestations pretty quick for mealy bug and anything short of sago scale.  Dinotefuran works well on that.  I have found that caffeine from used coffee grounds helps reduce and/or prevent scale from spreading, but won't entirely cure an infestation.  That's probably because there isn't a lot of caffeine left after brewing.  I bet tossing a few cups of cheap fresh Folgers may work better.  I might try that...

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On 8/21/2021 at 2:55 PM, PalmatierMeg said:

great looking plants. You'll love them. In the shade or on a cloudy, rainy day they are a mesmerizing blue tint. You can see hints of that color in your photos. Here is mine on a late Jan. evening this year

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I have one of those and they do show great blue. In your opinion what is the bluest form of Sabal minor you are aware of? I made the ‘leap’ and bought seed from Taliaferro County, Georgia. They are claimed to be the bluest, but almost no information on them. 

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On 5/28/2021 at 6:05 PM, teddytn said:

3 Takils from jungle music!!! Don’t quote me, but pretty sure the last palms of the season....big one is looking rough, gonna have to baby these for a while. People weren’t lying about the alpine trunking nature of Takil, all three identical growth habit. Oh jeez almost forgot 6 fortunei that showed up the other day6B2A95F5-14EF-45D6-9062-A2CABE0252ED.thumb.jpeg.2e81166e0fa2250eb17363bdb54f489a.jpegE786B20D-3006-44F1-BA16-C79838A2DCE6.thumb.jpeg.ddfd8e08b5544b07d87be653df3085bf.jpeg1E5C0CE6-9301-4A44-8419-01173A54A65C.thumb.jpeg.07672d0f2f75a149632491fd33ec9a0e.jpegDDE44DA7-6925-4E88-A57C-60D45E4ABC7C.thumb.jpeg.e8319dde8dcc26e46c101dd1b6008b55.jpeg5FC77A6C-1889-4D9A-9122-0105323DB9EE.thumb.jpeg.34082e7e628a043fe7e7c3daf2c5d110.jpeg

So did any of these pictured palms end up in your yard?!? 

Zone 6b maritime climate

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All the sabals in previous pictures got planted and are still alive. 

In these pics, the biggest Takil declined in the pot and died before it got planted. The two smaller Takils did get planted and died last winter when we went below zero for 36 hours, and below freezing for 5 days. I covered them, but didn’t heat them and they were planted way too small honestly. Those make the 7th and 8th Trachycarpus I’ve killed over the years, I’m about tired of that to be honest. The best advice is to be patient and plant at least a 15 gallon size minimum. I had a 7 gallon waggie survive last winter just being wrapped with no heat. 
 

I’ve still got all the fortunei’s pictured, they’re in 1 gallon pots. I’ll keep up potting them until bigger before planting. 

 

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